Here we go again, insanity and guns.

[hashtag46]

This thread is so freakin' funny only because of Que's mind-blowing posts and people's reactions to them!

 

[about_average]

Given the Queerbait Collective's documented history of ascription, you might be better off searching Lit posts done by Sissy Connie (and/or his other alts) to see what position he's ascribed to you.

It's a lot easier for him to make his post quota (200 a day) when he can criticize the position he's ascribed to you, rather than what you actually said.

Unless he can show you otherwise, you can safely assume it's just him doing #AscriptionAgain

I'm not saying the exchange didn't take place, I'm just saying I can't find it.
I'm not about to search for every post I've made on lit to look for it, but since he has such clear recollection of the exchange I can only assume he would know which search criteria to use. "Lois lerner" didn't work.

That said, it's hard for me to believe that if the exchange took place I wouldn't have replied, provided I saw it.
It's not that unusual for me to not be here for several days to a week and threads I've participated in have moved way down the list, past the point of where I bother to look for them again. If they aren't on the first or second page I don't typically look at them again.

So the exchange may have taken place, but a non-reply doesn't mean that I "slinked away".

 

[Conager]

You're going to have to link to that exchange, I don't recall it and can't find it.
I googled lit for every thread containing "lois lerner" and then searched for every post of mine in each of those threads and can't find that exchange.

The exchange definitely took place the research was definitely done took me several hours. It is possible that my recollection of who it was that initiated that exchange is faulty and then it was someone else of similar mindset demanding cites as yourself. If that is the case I apologize.

I recall at the time that a gaggle of Obama Administration apologist were insisting that Lois Lerner was under no obligation to ensure that hard copy backups of her records were kept but that was merely departmental policy and her high rank somehow Exempted her from doing so.

Someone demanded to know what law was broken by Lois Lerner if any and I cited several.

My more recent memory is likely less potentially faulty I seem to recall that in the last couple of days you were wanting to know in a similar fashion what actual law had been broken in some exchange not with me but with someone else. When that exchange occurred it reminded me of the Lois Lerner Exchange which may or may not have been you.

If you have no recollection of such an exchange with me I take you at your word at that and most likely it was someone else. So again I apologize

 

[Saint Peter]

I feel better now.

Thank you.

 

[Conager]

I feel better now.

Thank you.

S'mores then?

 

[Saint Peter]

S'mores then?

Some nachos would be appreciated.

 

[about_average]

My more recent memory is likely less potentially faulty I seem to recall that in the last couple of days you were wanting to know in a similar fashion what actual law had been broken in some exchange not with me but with someone else. When that exchange occurred it reminded me of the Lois Lerner Exchange which may or may not have been you.

If you have no recollection of such an exchange with me I take you at your word at that and most likely it was someone else. So again I apologize

Yes, trysail said the Army Corp of Engineers broke the law. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask someone who makes such a categorical claim to provide some evidence to back up such a claim.

Apology accepted.

 

[water505]

This thread is so freakin' funny only because of Que's mind-blowing posts and people's reactions to them!

Who is Que?

 

[hashtag46]

Who is Que?

 

[Conager]

Some nachos would be appreciated.

Is it nacho turn to make them?

 

[Disgustipated]

It's not about 5 being six. I'm talking about entire paragraphs where you just rattle off several numbers in several sentences with nothing. No link, no actual research, not even, "A drunk hillbilly told me this one night."

I'm not sure what most of the rest of that mess means. Are you typing on a waffle iron tonight?

I'm also talking about numbers like Obama's $1.5 billion a day trip to the middle east or Drumpf foolishly talking about 45% being the real unemployment number.

And what meme are you on about?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Read it again, more carefully. He meant something entirely different from what you are referring to. His post is confusing, probably because
...

Actually, I like him remember the old threads/debates and I, more than you, understand where he was coming from and the history of the Left and the ACLU in the battle to keep the mentally ill out of institutions.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Are we the only country that ignores this problem? How do others deal with it?

I really do not know.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Instead of making guns much less available more difgicult to attain, they're thinking about rounding up people and locking them up for life.

Everything else is the problem, but for Guns.

Not for life; for cure.

If they cannot function in society, why is it to their benefit to let them wander the streets or to stew until they lash out? How is that a winning formula? What we need to do is find a humane and cost-effective methodology for protecting them, and us, for their lack of grounding in reality. The little shit who shot up Sandy Hook and his mom, everyone knew he was a ticking time bomb, but no one was about to put him into a safe place where the attempt could be made to help him, What was the result of that?

A gun went crazy???

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Of course the left is fighting it...they're the ones who'd be institutionalized.

Almost funny...


The truth grain is too small. Judge them not against their outcomes, but their intentions.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Just take away everybody's guns.

Simple solutions for simple minds.


Would you have felt better if he had killed with a machete, a replica Samurai sword or a Bowie knife???

 

[hashtag46]

Not for life; for cure.

If they cannot function in society, why is it to their benefit to let them wander the streets or to stew until they lash out? How is that a winning formula? What we need to do is find a humane and cost-effective methodology for protecting them, and us, for their lack of grounding in reality. The little shit who shot up Sandy Hook and his mom, everyone knew he was a ticking time bomb, but no one was about to put him into a safe place where the attempt could be made to help him, What was the result of that?

A gun went crazy???

Yes, you're right.
But those with that particular risky form of schizophrenia wander the streets untreated precisely because the healthcare in the US sucks (these things would never happen in Australia or NZ who invest a lot of money into healthcare so they have enough people and resources to monitor them).

In saying that, I too, just like you would advocate long-term institutionalisation for those who have severe forms of mental illness that make them chronically unable to care for themselves, or for those whose level of risk to others is too brittle and fluctuates too much.

But Que's arguments for long-term institutionalisazion (invoking how much the mentally ill cost us, as opposed to risks) left me gaping.

.

 

[Sean]

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/134DB/production/_85876097_homicides_guns_624_v3.png

 

[about_average]

How many of those murders were by people who were legally allowed to carry a firearm?

Without that data the graph is pretty meaningless.
Criminals shooting someone isn't a reason to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves against criminals trying to shoot them.

 

[Sean]

How many of those murders were by people who were legally allowed to carry a firearm?

Without that data the graph is pretty meaningless.
Criminals shooting someone isn't a reason to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves against criminals trying to shoot them.

The US' murder rate is nearly five times that of the UK. I'd say that was pretty meaningful.

 

[about_average]

The US' murder rate is nearly five times that of the UK. I'd say that was pretty meaningful.

Not in relation to the legality of flying with a gun, or why people would have reason to do it.

 

[Ishmael]

Actually, I like him remember the old threads/debates and I, more than you, understand where he was coming from and the history of the Left and the ACLU in the battle to keep the mentally ill out of institutions.

This thread is for US citizens to participate in. Non-citizens don't know the history of this problem so they come up with simplistic, and often stupid, solutions to a problem they don't understand.

Ishmael

 

[BotanyBoy]

Just take away everybody's guns.

That will never happen Rom.

 

[Conager]

Oh, the burnt toast with a :-( torn into it.

 

[Conager]

The US' murder rate is nearly five times that of the UK. I'd say that was pretty meaningful.

Indeed. That means it is 5 times more reasonable that one might want to carry a firearm in order to protect oneself.