Today Congress constitutionally counts Elector votes...

[ifrtbttrflys]

And guess what some Democrats are thinking of doing?



What's amusing is they seem split about why they're saying they'll challenge many Elector votes: some, like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas, claim:

...that she and her allies plan to challenge the validity of electoral votes in multiple states, where she argued voter suppression tactics may have tainted the outcome. She said a separate batch of challenges will focus on disqualifying electors who may have been ineligible to serve at all.

"This is an American question of justice and fairness and the appropriate running of presidential elections," Jackson.

Sure it is, cowgirl.

Other Democrats, like Rep. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, are even more disingenuously creative by claiming:

...the House Democrats' protest “is not about trying to stop Donald Trump from becoming President,” but “the fact that our liberty, freedom and democracy were compromised by Russia’s intrusion into America’s election.

I wonder if one of his colleagues could trouble themselves to clue Mr. Perlmutter in on the fact that America is purposely constituted not as democracy, you know, as long as these Congresspeople who should know such constitutional facts obviously don't have anything better to do while on the taxpayer's time than to totally waste that time.

All of the 538 Elector votes can be challenged at will by these House Democrats, but they must do so in writing and convince a Senator to also do so in writing for any challenge to go any further. If that criteria is met, then the House and Senate split up to debate the challenge separately (max debate time = 2 hours, with 5 minutes max allocated for each debater).

Feasibly, then, 538 challenges debated for the 2 hours max could take up 1,076 hours, or 45 24-hour days, which would take us to February 20th. But the Dems aren't going to challenge any Hillary votes, so challenging Trump's 304 debated for the max would consume 25 days, which takes us to January 31st.

After the House and Senate separately debate, they reconvene in Joint Session to announce the results of those debates, and then Congress must simple majority vote to agree to reject each and every Elector vote put forth from the debates. The political Party makeup of the 115th Congress is 293 Republicans, 240 Democrats, and 2 Independents (the other 3 of the 538 are the Elector votes from the District of Columbia, which has no Representatives or Senators).

The result of all that effort? Any Elector vote Congress votes to reject is simply not counted, so 35 Elector votes for Trump would have to be rejected by the majority Republican Congress for any different result from present reality to occur.

What odds would you offer on that actually happening?

Last call for Democrats for at least the next two years begins at 1:00pm EST today. Let's see how ugly they get before the lights go out.

House Democrats to challenge Trump's Electoral College win
As many as 10 members plan to mount objections when Congress meets Friday, but so far no senator has joined them.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/house-democrats-trump-electoral-college-233264

Top Democrat Would Support Challenge to Electoral Vote Certification
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-...lectoral-vote-certification/story?id=44582828

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Rubbing salt into the wound?

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[Ishmael]

I almost quit reading at 'Sheila Jackson Lee.'

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I still remember the quote where she let slip that she was a Socialist wanting to take over companies and run them.



She might be representing one of the dumbest constituencies in the United States.

 

[Ishmael]

I still remember the quote where she let slip that she was a Socialist wanting to take over companies and run them.



She might be representing one of the dumbest constituencies in the United States.

Actually that was Maxine Waters. Ole Sheila is the one of the "show me the flag' quip when being briefed by NASA on the Mars mission. She was also banned from flying Continental Air Lines for being, well, an ass. And there are other exploits of hers that have made the news. regardless, depending on the congressional session she is consistently voted the 'stupidest person serving in congress' or runner up for damn near 30 years now.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're right.



I got the Mensa society members confused. I need more coffee...

 

[water505]

Mensa would be lucky to get her.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

And guess what some Democrats are thinking of doing?



What's amusing is they seem split about why they're saying they'll challenge many Elector votes: some, like Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas, claim:



Sure it is, cowgirl.

Other Democrats, like Rep. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, are even more disingenuously creative by claiming:



I wonder if one of his colleagues could trouble themselves to clue Mr. Perlmutter in on the fact that America is purposely constituted not as democracy, you know, as long as these Congresspeople who should know such constitutional facts obviously don't have anything better to do while on the taxpayer's time than to totally waste that time.

All of the 538 Elector votes can be challenged at will by these House Democrats, but they must do so in writing and convince a Senator to also do so in writing for any challenge to go any further. If that criteria is met, then the House and Senate split up to debate the challenge separately (max debate time = 2 hours, with 5 minutes max allocated for each debater).

Feasibly, then, 538 challenges debated for the 2 hours max could take up 1,076 hours, or 45 24-hour days, which would take us to February 20th. But the Dems aren't going to challenge any Hillary votes, so challenging Trump's 304 debated for the max would consume 25 days, which takes us to January 31st.

After the House and Senate separately debate, they reconvene in Joint Session to announce the results of those debates, and then Congress must simple majority vote to agree to reject each and every Elector vote put forth from the debates. The political Party makeup of the 115th Congress is 293 Republicans, 240 Democrats, and 2 Independents (the other 3 of the 538 are the Elector votes from the District of Columbia, which has no Representatives or Senators).

The result of all that effort? Any Elector vote Congress votes to reject is simply not counted, so 35 Elector votes for Trump would have to be rejected by the majority Republican Congress for any different result from present reality to occur.

What odds would you offer on that actually happening?

Last call for Democrats for at least the next two years begins at 1:00pm EST today. Let's see how ugly they get before the lights go out.

House Democrats to challenge Trump's Electoral College win
As many as 10 members plan to mount objections when Congress meets Friday, but so far no senator has joined them.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/house-democrats-trump-electoral-college-233264

Top Democrat Would Support Challenge to Electoral Vote Certification
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-...lectoral-vote-certification/story?id=44582828

You lost, asshead clown. Move to Cuba.