writing programs

[Handley_Page]

There's little or nothing I can do about it, so if I limit myself to keeping documents on my disks, not in the cloud, I've done what I can.

 

[rjordan]

Yes, but all they have to do is a member search to get to those stories he doesn't want on google docs. And they are hoping you don't care...about them looking at anything personal.

I was joking about being wise. Once you make the decision to have any web presence at all, you are a potential target now and forever. So the ONLY credible defense is to fake your own death and swear off all devices that organize the path of electrons for any purpose. That doesn't protect what you did before that.

rj

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I was joking about being wise. Once you make the decision to have any web presence at all, you are a potential target now and forever. So the ONLY credible defense is to fake your own death and swear off all devices that organize the path of electrons for any purpose. That doesn't protect what you did before that.

rj

Or from the beginning create yourself a fake identity and never, ever, do anything under your real name on the computer you use with the fake name.

And now that Opera has a built in VPN...well the sky is the limit...almost.

Then there a proxy servers and VPN's that can keep you sort of hidden. And if you own those, not in your real name, you can keep nosy freaks out.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

Or from the beginning create yourself a fake identity and never, ever, do anything under your real name on the computer you use with the fake name.

And now that Opera has a built in VPN...well the sky is the limit...almost.

Then there a proxy servers and VPN's that can keep you sort of hidden. And if you own those, not in your real name, you can keep nosy freaks out.

You're close to describing what I typically do. The Usenet host I use includes a free VPN for annual buys, which basically means to me, I'm getting a free Usenet account along with my VPN purchase. Might as well get something for $100 worth of false security every year.

Otherwise, I sort of chuckle to myself whenever I imagine I'm teaching Google's computers all the naughty words in the English language. I find that oddly satisfying.

 

[rjordan]

Or from the beginning create yourself a fake identity and never, ever, do anything under your real name on the computer you use with the fake name.

And now that Opera has a built in VPN...well the sky is the limit...almost.

Then there a proxy servers and VPN's that can keep you sort of hidden. And if you own those, not in your real name, you can keep nosy freaks out.

All those countermeasures are like locks. They keep out the lazy and stupid. Anyone determined enough or professional enough can get around them. You just want to annoy them enough to say, "Fuck it" and go rob someone else.

Similar to the old joke, "I don't have to outrun the bear. I only have to outrun YOU."

rj

 

[Booblover56]

I finally figured out how to get libre to download on my laptop and it was a pain
Had to uninstall norton because with the free version of libre comes about 10 over BS programs
One of which is a anti-virus, it took me longer to uninstall all the BS that came with it then the libre install itself
I'm going play around with it over the next few days and I really hope it was worth all of this

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I finally figured out how to get libre to download on my laptop and it was a pain
Had to uninstall norton because with the free version of libre comes about 10 over BS programs
One of which is a anti-virus, it took me longer to uninstall all the BS that came with it then the libre install itself
I'm going play around with it over the next few days and I really hope it was worth all of this

Where did you download it from? And there should have been a way to tell them you didn't want that shit. Checkboxes to uncheck, etc.

 

[NotWise]

I finally figured out how to get libre to download on my laptop and it was a pain
Had to uninstall norton because with the free version of libre comes about 10 over BS programs
One of which is a anti-virus, it took me longer to uninstall all the BS that came with it then the libre install itself
I'm going play around with it over the next few days and I really hope it was worth all of this

You probably should have downloaded from libreoffice.org.

It isn't obvious from this thread, but libreoffice is not just the editor. It is an entire office suite with word processor, spreadsheet, database manager, drawing package, and presentation builder. There is no anti-virus application in the package, or anything else that isn't directly part of the five basic programs.

It also doesn't ship with any of the many extensions, at least one of which is interesting for writers. The Language Tool is pretty neat.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Yep, just downloaded it from Libreoffice.org and no extras.

There are places where you can download it but they add all those extra bullshit to the install that you don't want. Always download from the site of the product.

 

[CoffeeWithMonkeys]

I wasn't even looking for a program, I use google docs and blogger most of the time, but you all have me downloading LibreOffice because it sounds amazing! LOL!

Maybe I will start using it. I'm going to try it out for the new story I'm working on.

 

[ElsieElsewhere]

I wasn't even looking for a program, I use google docs and blogger most of the time, but you all have me downloading LibreOffice because it sounds amazing! LOL!

Maybe I will start using it. I'm going to try it out for the new story I'm working on.

Good luck with your next story!
I know I'm stating the obvious, but, be sure to save often!

 

[CoffeeWithMonkeys]

Good luck with your next story!
I know I'm stating the obvious, but, be sure to save often!

Oh I should have asked, does Libre auto save? I am horrible about forgetting to save and have lost entire stories before!
That's why I like google docs and blogger, both auto save.

And Thanks! I'm excited about it. Working with some subject matter I haven't before.

 

[ElsieElsewhere]

Oh I should have asked, does Libre auto save? I am horrible about forgetting to save and have lost entire stories before!
That's why I like google docs and blogger, both auto save.

And Thanks! I'm excited about it. Working with some subject matter I haven't before.

Yeah, I don't know about the auto-save thing. I am pretty insistent on using Google Docs and Writer for that reason as well. I can't do without it. I also like Writer because it saves drafts/versions, too.

 

[NotWise]

Oh I should have asked, does Libre auto save.

It saves to a backup file every few minutes. If you close without saving, or you're interrupted by a power outage, etc, the next time you start LibreOffice it will offer you the option to restore the file from the autosaved backup. The system works pretty well but it can be confused if you have files by the same name on different devices.

One thing I find annoying (at least with the version I have now) is that when it autosaves it also resets the document so you're viewing the page that the cursor was on. That isn't much of a problem if your writing, but if you're rereading the document then you can suddenly find yourself relocated by several pages.

I use LibreOffice on three different Ubuntu installations. I assume its behavior is the same on Windows or Mac.

 

[CoffeeWithMonkeys]

It saves to a backup file every few minutes. If you close without saving, or you're interrupted by a power outage, etc, the next time you start LibreOffice it will offer you the option to restore the file from the autosaved backup. The system works pretty well but it can be confused if you have files by the same name on different devices.

One thing I find annoying (at least with the version I have now) is that when it autosaves it also resets the document so you're viewing the page that the cursor was on. That isn't much of a problem if your writing, but if you're rereading the document then you can suddenly find yourself relocated by several pages.

I use LibreOffice on three different Ubuntu installations. I assume its behavior is the same on Windows or Mac.

Thanks! I'm playing around with it now. Once I figured out how to add more text after inserting an image, I'm doing ok.

 

[ElsieElsewhere]

It saves to a backup file every few minutes. If you close without saving, or you're interrupted by a power outage, etc, the next time you start LibreOffice it will offer you the option to restore the file from the autosaved backup. The system works pretty well but it can be confused if you have files by the same name on different devices.

One thing I find annoying (at least with the version I have now) is that when it autosaves it also resets the document so you're viewing the page that the cursor was on. That isn't much of a problem if your writing, but if you're rereading the document then you can suddenly find yourself relocated by several pages.

I use LibreOffice on three different Ubuntu installations. I assume its behavior is the same on Windows or Mac.

Thanks for that information, I'll consider messing around with it more.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I've used both Word and Libre Office, along with Libre Offices predecessor Open Office. All three work essentially the same, although those same options may be in different places on a menu. All are good at what they do.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Thanks! I'm playing around with it now. Once I figured out how to add more text after inserting an image, I'm doing ok.

Try writing the text first then place the image in the text where you want it.

 

[Booblover56]

I did download off of libreoffice.com at least one of them, I found ten different pages for that address and the one I used was the only one that would let me do a free download

I have ran into this issue before with free programs, I'm sure if I pay for it I wouldn't have to deal with it
The most annoying thing was having to uninstall norton to install libre, the rest is just them trying to weasel money out of people

 

[NotWise]

The site is www.libreoffice.org and there is only one of it. All downloads are free.

LibreOffice is free and open source software. Anyone who charges you for it has violated the terms of the license agreement. They also don't try to weasel money out of anyone. There is a "Donate" link at the top right of their home page and that is it.

 

[Handley_Page]

The site is www.libreoffice.org and there is only one of it. All downloads are free.

LibreOffice is free and open source software. Anyone who charges you for it has violated the terms of the license agreement. They also don't try to weasel money out of anyone. There is a "Donate" link at the top right of their home page and that is it.

Thanks for that; my 'stored' version was 3.6 and this new one is 5.2.

 

[49greg]

LibreOffice is pretty popular as a free Word-like program.

Yup, I love Libre Office and have used it for years.

 

[49greg]

It saves to a backup file every few minutes. If you close without saving, or you're interrupted by a power outage, etc, the next time you start LibreOffice it will offer you the option to restore the file from the autosaved backup. The system works pretty well but it can be confused if you have files by the same name on different devices.

One thing I find annoying (at least with the version I have now) is that when it autosaves it also resets the document so you're viewing the page that the cursor was on. That isn't much of a problem if your writing, but if you're rereading the document then you can suddenly find yourself relocated by several pages.

I use LibreOffice on three different Ubuntu installations. I assume its behavior is the same on Windows or Mac.

Yeah, I noticed the autosave reseting to the cursor after my last update. It's annoying, but now I just move the cursor every time I go to a new page.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

The site is www.libreoffice.org and there is only one of it. All downloads are free.

LibreOffice is free and open source software. Anyone who charges you for it has violated the terms of the license agreement. They also don't try to weasel money out of anyone. There is a "Donate" link at the top right of their home page and that is it.

There are sites that offer some free, open source software - but then require you to download it using their magic downloader app, which often drags along additional, unwanted crapware.

It's always best to try downloading an app from its homepage, though that can be difficult to access. *.org vs *.com is often a big hint. Usually, but not always, the *.org site is better. Even then, there is some very good freeware that's hosted on a page filled with misleading ads that look like download buttons. (malwarebytes used to be on such a page as I remember.)

When installing an app, pay attention to the default checkmarks! Always choose "custom" install if it's available because that should give you more options about what you're installing and where it's going.

Even savvy computer users (like me) can get fooled. I recently downloaded a very highly recommended video converter that does a great job - followed all my own advice and still wound up installing crapware. Not sure what I missed during the install, but I felt like a beginner as I cleaned things up after that install.

 

[NotWise]

There are sites that offer some free, open source software - but then require you to download it using their magic downloader app, which often drags along additional, unwanted crapware.

Gosh. I never got very far into the MicroSoft world before I turned around and walked away. I use Ubuntu (and SuSE before that) and I never have to deal with that kind of nonsense.

With most Linux distributions the distributor has a website where you can download a huge array of self-installing software, and links to other "safe" sites with more. It is almost all free, has a fairly large user community, and you don't walk away with dog shit on your shoes.

I expect that the larger the Linux/Android market gets the more problems there will be, but so far, so good.