Barry joins his Jew hating jackal buddies at the UN

[about_average]

Why are people so bent out of shape about Obama continuing the same US position about West Bank settlements that every president has had since 1967?
All I can think of is because it happens to be Obama this time.

 

[contrifan32]

Only since the 6 day war. It was given to Palestine in 1923. From the 16th century to 1917 it was part of Syria.

And who started the 6 Day War?

As important, who defeated who

 

[Adre]

It is well within reason to support the Jewish people in general and the continued existence of Isreal in particular while taking issue with the actions of right wing hardline factions within that country. It's not like Netanyahu has 100% approval ratings among his countrymen.

 

[about_average]

The history is well known, not sure why you're trying to educate yourself on the GB, but

And who started the 6 Day War?

Israel, with a preemptive air attack.

As important, who defeated who

Israel defeated the Arabs.

 

[bobb_sledd]

Why now? Because Obama is acting like a petulant child whose team lost the game (election). He’s taking his ball and going home, kicking over as many trash cans on his way out. Obama’s leaned anti-Semitic since day one; why should this surprise anyone?

 

[Disgustipated]

Why now? Because Obama is acting like a petulant child whose team lost the game (election). He’s taking his ball and going home, kicking over as many trash cans on his way out. Obama’s leaned anti-Semitic since day one; why should this surprise anyone?

Hi BOB. Cna you back up some of these claims? Especially the anti-Semitic one.

 

[hashtag4]

Hi BOB. Cna you back up some of these claims? Especially the anti-Semitic one.

He tried to help Iran get nukes, by lying to his constituents and dismissing Netanyahu's valid concerns

He's been backing up ISIS in the Middle East.

 

[Disgustipated]

Answers to "BOB".

 

[about_average]

He tried to help Iran get nukes, by lying to his constituents and dismissing Netanyahu's valid concerns

He's been backing up ISIS in the Middle East.

I used to think Miles, Amicus and Vetteman were about the most ignorant posters here. Looks like I was wrong.

 

[Adre]

I used to think Miles, Amicus and Vetteman were about the most ignorant posters here. Looks like I was wrong.

He's like Garbage Can dumb.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

The telling thing about the deal is Obama pussed-out and abstained, instead of voting for the condemnation as his actual position is.

The US should ICANN the UN, stopping all payments to it, and simply become a totally sovereign advisor ONLY when it wishes to. Ditto for NATO. Let all the freeloaders start fending for themselves.

The loud, collective whine just from those needed acts would also easily out all the true-blooded socialists in America, which would then abet compiling a registry of them for future "consideration", too.

#flushthetoilet

 

[phrodeau]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine

The recent resolution of the UN Security Council joins a lengthy list.

 

[phrodeau]

Pundits are saying this is Obama's parting shot. They seem to forget that he's got four more weeks in office.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The loud, collective whine just from those needed acts would also easily out all the true-blooded socialists in America, which would then abet compiling a registry of them for future "consideration", too.

You went full Hitler. Never go full Hitler.

 

[eagleb1]

OK, I'll spell it out for you.

What he did is very politically unfavorable and would have effected the elections, including his own in 2012, had he taken the step earlier. More than a few Blue and Battleground states have large Jewish and pro Israeli populations.

By pulling this off now he gets to do what he's always wanted to do and no matter who was elected they could blame him while (especially had Hillary won) claiming they were always against it. From his perspective and desires now is the perfect time. And the fact that it came up now in the UN is no coincidence either.

Ishmael

Being Jewish, I and many (most?) American Jews believe that the two-state solution is the least bad alternative available to Israel.

I could go on but Josh Marshall (another pro-Israel American Jew) explains it much better than I can. Instead of taking it as another opportunity to bash Obama, try reading what he says about this extraordinarily complex situation. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-un-resolution

 

[Sean]

Calling for a halt to the Israeli genocide in Palestine is anti-semitic?

 

[about_average]

The telling thing about the deal is Obama pussed-out and abstained, instead of voting for the condemnation as his actual position is.

The US abstained because there was overall agreement with it, but there was significant language in it that the US opposed.

 

[Ishmael]

You mean possessions like?
Liberia
Philippines
Parts of Japan
Parts of Honduras
Part Panama
Part of Nicaragua
Dominican Republic
Haiti
Parts of Kiribati
Part of New Zealand

Shall I go on?

~snip~

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have caused any elections. They were all pretty much already scheduled.

If you want to list every square inch of the earth save Antarctica, be my guest. The fact remains that if any entity has a claim to the land at issue, it's the Jordanians and they don't seem to be interested. You also have ignored the fact that the "Palestinians" (a wholly manufactured group) want to see Israel gone entirely. They don't want a piece, they want it all.

Semantics aside, the vote was scheduled when it was because the US signaled it would NOT use it's veto power.

Ishmael

 

[bobb_sledd]

Hi BOB. Cna you back up some of these claims? Especially the anti-Semitic one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...istration-anti-israel/?utm_term=.52166601cd1b

 

[Sean]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...istration-anti-israel/?utm_term=.52166601cd1b

A right wing blog about food labelling of goods from the occupied territories is all you can find?

 

[about_average]

If you want to list every square inch of the earth save Antarctica, be my guest.

Every square inch of the earth hasn't been a US Territory.
I was just replying to your BS red herring about it being like the US returning US states to Mexico.
You know full well it was complete bull shit and were just hoping no one would notice and call you on it.

So I called your bluff and raised you some actual equivalences.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Unfortunately this is something that any subsequent administration cannot undo. This is a one-way ticket to another shit storm in the mid-east.

I notice that JS is at least honest enough to side with the Arabs in calling for the complete eradication of Israel. Of course he's going to demand that I show where he posted such a sentiment, but I think his quote is sufficient;



What those that are calling for these condemnations of Israel can't quite seem to grasp is that their very survival is at stake. To the Arab mind ALL of Israel is Palestine, and indeed historically that is true. Palestine is NOT a state and never was, it's an area, not unlike the Great Plains or the Rocky Mountains. So the Arab claims to "Palestine" encompass ALL of that area, including Israel.

Then we look at the Hams Covenant/Charter and we find that;

A. There can be NO negotiated settlement, jihad is the only answser. (Article 13)

B. Jihad as a means to restore 'Palestine' to the "Faithful" is a religious obligation of ALL Muslims. (Article 15)

There are those in the West that say, "Well, those are just negotiating stances." Really? 1300 years of dealing with Islam and it appears that these people haven't learned a God damned thing. Those are core tenants of the religion as derived from the Qur'an and the Haddith's. Who among you are insane enough to believe that they're going to negotiate away their religious beliefs?

Then there are the apologists that say, "Well, until 1967 those were Arab lands." Yes they were, and so what? There are consequences to losing wars. Should we, the US, be negotiating with Mexico to return Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, and California to the Mexican government? After all until 1836/1848 they WERE Mexican territories! And by extension you could apply that misguided logic to damn near every square inch of land on the face of the earth save Antarctica.

This little spiteful act has done nothing but hasten a new conflict.

Ishmael

Amen and pass the frags.

Not just content with destabilizing the Middle East, Obama seems to be hell bent on bringing on the end of days...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm obviously a dilettante here, and many thanks to those who treated me with respect despite that and answered my questions instead of ignoring me or the "GFY, moron" (this discourse being my "Happy Hollidays" wish to you all).

But I read all the posts and as informative and multifaceted as they are, none of them answered the question:
"Why now?"

The OP kindof highlighted that in a tongue amd cheek way. But of course there's more to it.
So why now, after 8 long years?

Easy.

Because, finally, now Obama can do what he wanted to do all along and then take the glory, spike the ball at halftime in victory and then blame any and all subsequent fallout on his successor. Bush handed me a mess, but I handed Trump rationality in the Middle East. He then went on to fuck it up.

 

[Queertag45]

Easy.

Because, finally, now Obama can do what he wanted to do all along and then take the glory, spike the ball at halftime in victory and then blame any and all subsequent fallout on his successor. Bush handed me a mess, but I handed Trump rationality in the Middle East. He then went on to fuck it up.

Soon you won't be able to blame obama for all your failings. What will a sad little prairee nigger do then?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What?

For the 200th time, a chance to use the term "prairie nigger?"