Trump is a total ass clown

[Conager]

The GOP in its present form hates intellectualism, hates equality, hates social justice, and, in fact, hates kindness. It loves bigotry, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, ignorance, obscurantism, cruelty, police brutality, and militarism.

The Democratic Party, OTOH, is far too subservient to Wall Street, is far too committed to the neoliberal consensus . . . and those are the very worst things anyone can honestly say about it.

Kind of you to say. Kinda intellectual, too. Except for the part that's 100% wrong.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Kind of you to say. Kinda intellectual, too. Except for the part that's 100% wrong.

Which part would that be? I know it ain't the part about the GOP hating kindness, loving bigotry, etc.

I'm not talking about every Pub voter, no doubt many are kindhearted, open-minded and intelligent. Well, some, anyway. Gotta be. But as a collective entity, the party's current political center-of-gravity is exactly where I have placed it and exactly as I have described it.

 

[Hypoxia]

Gingrich: Trump could pardon aides for ethics violations

Newt Gingrich is suggesting that Donald Trump and his advisers could avoid the consequences of breaking government ethics laws by the President offering a blanket pardon for any potential violations.
"[Trump] has, frankly, the power of the pardon. I mean, it is a totally open power, and he could simply say, 'Look, I want them to be my advisers, I pardon them if anybody finds them to have behaved against the rules, period.' And technically, under the Constitution, he has that level of authority," Gingrich said during an interview Monday on the "Diane Rehm Show" on NPR.

Conflicts of interest? We ain't got no conflicts! None that can be punished, anyway. The prez waves his magic wand and poof! all those troubles vanish. Just like the good fairy.

 

[Conager]

Which part would that be? I know it ain't the part about the GOP hating kindness, loving bigotry, etc.

I'm not talking about every Pub voter, no doubt many are kindhearted, open-minded and intelligent. Well, some, anyway. Gotta be. But as a collective entity, the party's current political center-of-gravity is exactly where I have placed it and exactly as I have described it.

So mostly murderers and rapists and, you assume, some of them are good people?

Awfully white of you to be so tolerant towards your "intellectual" inferiors.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So mostly murderers and rapists and, you assume, some of them are good people?

Doesn't matter. The direction and character of the GOP as a party is what matters, and is as I have described.

 

[Conager]

Doesn't matter. The direction and character of the GOP as a party is what matters, and is as I have described.

A party is not defined by the marketing needs of its opponents. You can keep keep spewing that ad campaign as long as you wish. It didn't work in any of the midterms and it cost you a presidential election this time.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The GOP in its present form hates intellectualism,

No it hates the smugness surrounding it.

That's rich for a supporter of social justice btw.

hates equality

No it doesn't.

hates social justice

Because social justice is evil racist/sexist bullshit.

and, in fact, hates kindness.

Not at all.

It loves bigotry, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, ignorance, obscurantism, cruelty, police brutality, and militarism.

You can say the same about the (D)'s minus the homophobia and police brutality which aren't things the GOP supports either.

The Democratic Party, OTOH, is far too subservient to Wall Street, is far too committed to the neoliberal consensus . . . and those are the very worst things anyone can honestly say about it.

And the bigotry, racism, misandry, globalism, socialism, ignorance, obscurantism, cruelty, inequality and militarism.

Doesn't matter. The direction and character of the GOP as a party is what matters, and is as I have described.

Bullshit, you're just a (D) hack.

 

[KingOrfeo]

A party is not defined by the marketing needs of its opponents.

No, it is defined by what it says and does; and my assessment of the GOP is based on that.

 

[Conager]

No, it is defined by what it says and does; and my assessment of the GOP is based on that.

And I reject your gratuitous assertion counselor.

 

[RobDownSouth]

No, a party is defined by what it says and does; and my assessment of the GOP is based on that.

And I reject your gratuitous assertion counselor.

Democrats: Deeds, not words!
Republicans: Words, not deeds!
Queerbait: NEITHER! DERP!

 

[GiaCat]

Yes, but he is OUR ass clown

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Yes, but he is OUR ass clown

https://img42.com/qXWmq+

Hey, if this is the standard you wanted for your world, wear it proudly. It's the new normal for the next four years.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Because social justice is evil racist/sexist bullshit.

That is the worst and damnedest lie you have ever told in your worthless life.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That is the worst and damnedest lie you have ever told in your worthless life.

Social justice, says that because a person of a certain gender/color is inherently criminal and needs to be served some kinda of punishment for the circumstances of their birth. Actual guilt or innocence of a person is irrelevant under social justice all that matters is that they are part of the wrong demographic. Which is text book definition of racism/sexism and exactly how you wipe out 6 million Jews. Hitler was a HUGE social justice warrior, it is how he demonized the ENTIRE Jewish population.

Identity politics and social justice are horrible horrible evils. People are individuals, not demographic groups.

 

[about_average]

Those are oddly specific and irrelevant numbers. Are you saying that an inner-city youth in a charter school doing poorly in math as compared to a wealthy child in Grosse Pointe Michigan are apples to apples?

Average test scores are oddly specific.

now get me the figures for both individual students tracked leaving Public Schools as well as public schools located where an individual charter school is also located. Michigan has one of the older Charter School programs in the nation and as a result for the last 20 years parents who care in the inner cities have pulled their kids out of public schools and put them in charter schools. The fact that they still underperform over Public Schools elsewhere where parents have no need to pull their kids out of gang filled schools is completely irrelevant.

You can't both claim that the charter schools are ruining public schools and the public schools are outperforming charter schools because they aren't- not in the same neighborhood.

you conveniently did not link to the abstract nor your source which was the Detroit Free Press. Here is the rebuttal:
http://bridgemi.com/2014/07/readers-deserved-more-transparency-in-lengthy-charter-school-indictment/?gclid=CNzMjPm9gNECFRBEfgodSv0Pew

That's why I didn't make that claim.

Are you suggesting President Elect Trump is corrupt?

It doesn't need to be suggested, it's well documented.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Social justice, says that because a person of a certain gender/color is inherently criminal and needs to be served some kinda of punishment for the circumstances of their birth.

No, it says nothing of the kind.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, it says nothing of the kind.

Then explain your ultra churched up version of group justice.....

Explain how 'white privilege' and 'male privilege' and 'the patriarchy' aren't demographic based Social Justice approved terms for the express purpose of demonizing entire demographics of people based upon their skin color and gender?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then explain your ultra churched up version of group justice.....

Explain how 'white privilege' and 'male privilege' and 'the patriarchy' aren't demographic based Social Justice approved terms for the express purpose of demonizing entire demographics of people based upon their skin color and gender?

Because demonizing them is not necessary. We can gradually erase white/male privilege without that.

Anti-racism is not anti-white, anti-sexism is not anti-male.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hitler was a HUGE social justice warrior, it is how he demonized the ENTIRE Jewish population.

Ten days remaining in the year and Queerbait FINALLY has some serious competition for Stupidest General Board Post Of The Year.

#GolfClap

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because demonizing them is not necessary. We can gradually erase white/male privilege without that.

You're doing it by assigning it to a whole race/gender...

There is no white male privilege, there privileged individuals and yea there are some who get their privilege from racist or sexist fucks who are sometimes white guys but those are all 2 way streets. You can't even name a single privilege that is inherent to being white or any race for that matter. The privilege most people see and resent is almost always green, not white.

Individuals are dirt bags, corrupt, racist and or sexist, laws and policies are oppressive....not entire demographics or groups of people. That is why social justice is bullshit.

My privilege according to all the real world data wasn't crawling from between a white woman's legs, it was doing so in the USA, and then growing up with 2 parents who gave a shit. Turns out if you have two parents who care you're practically guaranteed not to live in poverty in this country regardless of color. The rest of it has all been behavior privilege and or consequences.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Social justice, says that because a person of a certain gender/color is inherently criminal and needs to be served some kinda of punishment for the circumstances of their birth. Actual guilt or innocence of a person is irrelevant under social justice all that matters is that they are part of the wrong demographic. Which is text book definition of racism/sexism and exactly how you wipe out 6 million Jews. Hitler was a HUGE social justice warrior, it is how he demonized the ENTIRE Jewish population.

Identity politics and social justice are horrible horrible evils. People are individuals, not demographic groups.

If people are just individuals and NOT part of a demographic group then how do you explain:

- The young latino grade schoolers being told they'll soon be sent back to Mexico?
- Women, with darker skin/hair (but not necessarily) having their scarfs (sometimes hajibs, sometimes not) pulled from their heads?
- The black man who came out to his car and found "N****r!!!" written all over it.

Presumably these acts of hostility are by strangers. Are the strangers acting out against an individual or a demographic group?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Ten days remaining in the year and Queerbait FINALLY has some serious competition for Stupidest General Board Post Of The Year.

#GolfClap

Awww we don't like the truth when it looks bad for the regressive left!!!

Try reading Mein Kampf sometime....it's classic us vs. them identity politics and all manner of pushing social justice to put an end to all that Jewish privilege.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If people are just individuals and NOT part of a demographic group then how do you explain:

I never said that. I said individuals are not demographic groups.

A racist white guy doesn't make all white guys racist. The problem is the individual not the individuals race. To say that it is, is blaming an entire race for the actions of individuals and textbook racism. Understand?

- The young latino grade schoolers being told they'll soon be sent back to Mexico?

What about them? That's behavior privilege/consequence.

- Women, with darker skin/hair (but not necessarily) having their scarfs (sometimes hajibs, sometimes not) pulled from their heads?

- The black man who came out to his car and found "N****r!!!" written all over it.

Presumably these acts of hostility are by strangers.

IDK about the car but the girl getting her hijab yanked off was verified bullshit lies.... but I maintain they are still the acts of individuals, not a demographic.

Are the strangers acting out against an individual or a demographic group?

It's individual on individuals....the demographics are just mental constructs.

The question you're looking for is are the strangers entire race/gender responsible for that one assholes actions??

If you think all white men are guilty because some are racist/sexist shits you're pro social justice and a total bigot.

If you just think some people are pieces of shit and they come in all colors, genders, shapes and sizes then congratulations you're not only sane but morally superior to the social justice bigots.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Awww we don't like the truth when it looks bad for the regressive left!!!

Try reading Mein Kampf sometime....it's classic us vs. them identity politics and all manner of pushing social justice to put an end to all that Jewish privilege.

I keep forgetting that only ideologically pure #TrueBelievers such as yourself are the only ones who know #TheTruth

I've read portions of Mein Kampf. It's an incoherent pastiche of a political philosophy, heavy on hate 'n blaming, light on solutions. Not unlike, say, your posts....

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

My point is that the strangers are seeing the individual's race, NOT the individual.

And I'm NOT looking for the question "... is are the strangers entire race/gender responsible for that one assholes actions??"

Of course the whole race is not responsible for an individual's actions.

My point is that:

Identity politics and social justice are NOT horrible horrible evils. It sounds like you have a very specific definition of "identity politics" which is that an individual IS responsible for their whole race, which is a false definition.

Identity politics and social justice are notions born out of the fact that some people take advantage of, and marginalize, certain other groups of people. And typically those "others" are of a particular race, or religion.

Social justice works to bring to light these injustices to others. Unless/until people respect and honor all other people, regardless of race, religion, etc, we, as a human race, are doomed to fail as a species on this planet.

I never said that. I said individuals are not demographic groups.

A racist white guy doesn't make all white guys racist. The problem is the individual not the individuals race. To say that it is, is blaming an entire race for the actions of individuals and textbook racism. Understand?



What about them? That's behavior privilege/consequence.



IDK about the car but the girl getting her hijab yanked off was verified bullshit lies.... but I maintain they are still the acts of individuals, not a demographic.



It's individual on individuals....the demographics are just mental constructs.

The question you're looking for is are the strangers entire race/gender responsible for that one assholes actions??

If you think all white men are guilty because some are racist/sexist shits you're pro social justice and a total bigot.

If you just think some people are pieces of shit and they come in all colors, genders, shapes and sizes then congratulations you're not only sane but morally superior to the social justice bigots.