I think I need to say this. Why did Hillary lose?

Hillary got lazy. She thought she had some of those northern states in the bag and didn't show up there until it was too late.

Say what you want about Trump, but that man put in the work. He would be in five different states giving rallies in a single day. Just the thought of that makes me want to nap.


You'd think CNN and the media brain trust would have noticed the months of jam packed Trump rallies with lineups miles long.

He was winning the whole time but the entitled media types refused to believe what they saw.
 
Odd how people are so willing to say president for trump but they couldnt give the same courtesy to the present president. Why is that? What does that say about you?

That they aren't very different than all the super inclusive, diversity loving, inclusive preaching libz who are calling Trump all kinds of nasty shit and will continue to do so until he's gone. :D
 
Hillary got lazy. She thought she had some of those northern states in the bag and didn't show up there until it was too late.

Say what you want about Trump, but that man put in the work. He would be in five different states giving rallies in a single day. Just the thought of that makes me want to nap.

The thing that really makes his schedule impressive is how targeted it was, and how effective. Brilliant advantage taken of the EC vote over the popular vote.
 
The idea of building walls is ignorant. History teaches us that, the Chinese built the Great Wall and the French built the Maginot Line and they did't work.

I want him to do it for the entertainment value alone. I want to see him make Mexico pay for it. The world's economy is in for a rough 4 years
 
The thing that really makes his schedule impressive is how targeted it was, and how effective. Brilliant advantage taken of the EC vote over the popular vote.

He really seemed to be on point once he started listening to his new strategist, Kellyanne Conway.

I still don't know where he got all that energy.

Awfully impressive for someone his age.
 
Has any individual ever commanded and directed his own presidential campaign anywhere even close to what almost all pundits are attributing to Trump?

I cannot recall a successful candidate without a bevy of partisan political support, an almost endless roster of expert strategists, etc., etc., etc; certainly not a candidate who has basically and intentionally fended off all of that traditional, partisan must, have stuff to run his campaign exactly how he wants to.

No matter that any partisan of any Party or any citizen of the entire world may contend differently, notching the Presidency of America is one of the world's biggest WINS. How much credit should Donald Trump get for basically orchestrating that great accomplishment so much himself?

Frank Sinatra is no doubt singing in his grave as I post.
 
That they aren't very different than all the super inclusive, diversity loving, inclusive preaching libz who are calling Trump all kinds of nasty shit and will continue to do so until he's gone. :D

I, for one, will be calling him "The Orangutan"
 
I believe the constitution applies to all americans. Even those i disagree with.

Shall we play? Define "good".

If your implying I don't support the constitution you would be wrong. I spend the day explaining to my Hispanic students who were born in The United States that President elect Trump doesn't have the power to deport a citizen. If you are born on U.S. soil you are an American citizen. It would require an amendment to the Constitution to change. That won't happen because any wording that singles out a particular race would be declared unconstitutional.

I believe that when a person makes an informed choice that they feel is best for them then they are doing what's best for the Nation. To many people believe what they hear. They don't look for themselves.

Insulting people doesn't make things better.
 
If your implying I don't support the constitution you would be wrong. I spend the day explaining to my Hispanic students who were born in The United States that President elect Trump doesn't have the power to deport a citizen. If you are born on U.S. soil you are an American citizen. It would require an amendment to the Constitution to change. That won't happen because any wording that singles out a particular race would be declared unconstitutional.

I believe that when a person makes an informed choice that they feel is best for them then they are doing what's best for the Nation. To many people believe what they hear. They don't look for themselves.

Insulting people doesn't make things better.

As their teacher, shouldn't you have taught them this a long time ago?
 
One of the big lies of American politics, adhered to by the vast majority of conservative posters here, is that everyone who isn't a white male practices "identity politics," while white guys calmly and rationally examine the candidates and their stances, and just happen to overwhelmingly side with the GOP because that's what logic dictates.

This.

Ass hurting my brother from a different mother?

Not at all. My ass is still butter smooth and creamy since birthdate. Since you care about that area, you can come around the front and get with this dick, though.

Last time I checked, Hillary was white.

Last time I checked, every president before Obama was a white male.
 
Trump ran his entire almost 2-year campaign virtually himself, exactly the way(s) he wanted, even down to the point of reportedly approving or nixing every ad buy his campaign ever made. No candidate has ever ran a campaign like Trump ran himself. That seems to be a characteristic of his entire life. I don't see it changing all of a sudden now.

No, no he didn't.

When he was stilling trying to decide who is VP pick would be, he was strongly favouring Chris Christie. However he ended up picking Mike Pence. Why? Cause his at the time campaign manager realized Christie would get hit by the Bridgegate scandal and the manager liked Pence more. If you dig around you can see just how his campaign manager used him as puppet before he peace'd out.

Trump doesn't run anything. Don't believe me, look up Trump Tower in Toronto. The only thing that Trump had hand in was the groundbreaking ceremony and putting his name on the building. His "empire" is selling his name, whenever he goes into venture himself it tends to fail.

Also just to add in one other thing. This is now second time in my lifetime that the person who won popular vote (Clinton is still leading and odds are will win it) but lost the College. Its time for an actually change in the system or would you rather wait till someone pulls off the mathematically possible 24% popular vote but 270 Electors win.

All you Trump supporters I hop you enjoy your new recession. Just by electing this guy you've ruined your economy. O and those trade deals like NAFTA and TPP, they won't get your jobs back. Especially since TPP will just block you out of markets and NAFTA was just the official agreement to say the Auto Pack was a thing. Your jobs left because you were uneducated unskilled labour that could be replaced by a machine or someone willing to work a dollar a day.

So to the Rust Belt and Midwest. I hope you enjoy 4 years of President who will increase the debt, weaken America aboard with her allies, has already caused a recession, and laugh as wonder why your still in poverty.

You didn't elect clown or brick or Molotov cocktail. You elected man who only cares about the strong and people who make themselves great.

Enjoy

Edit: Cause this is annoying thing that keeps getting repeat over and over by people
The idea of building walls is ignorant. History teaches us that, the Chinese built the Great Wall and the French built the Maginot Line and they did't work.

The Maginot Line did work. Its job was to prevent the Germans from crossing the German-French boarder and at the same time give French ability to project power straight into Germany. The problem was Germans went the Belgium (again) to hit France.

When Maginot Line was finally used during Operation Nordwind (Battle of the Bulge), it actually did its job fairly well, even with specially designed flamethrower tanks being thrown at it.
 
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Clarification on white men, would love you to answer. Do both progressive and conservative white men practice identity politics, or is it just one side?
 
Clarification on white men, would love you to answer. Do both progressive and conservative white men practice identity politics, or is it just one side?

I would suggest that both SAY they don't but in practice they do. They just call it different things that mean the same.
 
Wait. Trump is going to "increase the debt?"

I seem to remember that when Democrats do it, it's called "investing in America" and "fixing our crumbling infrastructure."

You're correct that NAFTA didn't cost jobs but wrong about what did. Union's unreasonable demands and pricing themselves out of the market place did.

Michigan finally passed right-to-work laws and some manufacturing is returning.
 
Wait. Trump is going to "increase the debt?"

I seem to remember that when Democrats do it, it's called "investing in America" and "fixing our crumbling infrastructure."



I've got no problem with spending on infrastructure. We should have been doing more of it these last several years, taking advantage of low interest rates. It's good policy, spending on something that's tangible and provides well-paying jobs, which is why Clinton had such a plan too. Plus it provides the benefit to me of watching AJ endorsing Keynesianism, as he did for 8 years of Dubya.

If Trump wants to do this, he will likely have lots of Democrats signing on, along with Republicans who go berserk over the deficit when a Democrat is in office (to the point of refusing funds to fight Zika unless it was offset by cuts elsewhere) but are always willing to crank open the checkbook when one of their own is in the White House.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Tea Party up in arms when this "big spending bill" passes. I'm also looking forward to chilling with Santa when he drops in next month.
 
Wait. Trump is going to "increase the debt?"

I seem to remember that when Democrats do it, it's called "investing in America" and "fixing our crumbling infrastructure."

You're correct that NAFTA didn't cost jobs but wrong about what did. Union's unreasonable demands and pricing themselves out of the market place did.

Michigan finally passed right-to-work laws and some manufacturing is returning.
ROFL

Trump wants to increase spending for military. Military that is bloated with weapons it doesn't even need (M1 Abrams tank you can find in deserts) nor even work (F-35 Lightning which can't even fly if theres lightning nearby)

Military spending, usually the biggest thing for Republican to invest in, for America.

Funny I've seen a lot factories that had no unions move out of Canada. Well unions are to blame for some jobs, they are just kindling in gasoline fueled bonfire that is globalization.

If machine can do it and its cheaper then a person. Machine will get the job.

If machine can't do it, find a cheaper person. Move the job to the person.

Also that "crumbling infrastructure" you like to quote. It is crumbling and does need to be rebuilt or have you never heard Flint, MI. Or would you rather wait for the next bridge (yes I know Flint is about lead in the water supply) to collapse before you realize its good idea to make sure people can actually move about in your city,state and country. O and this makes nice local jobs for people too. So am guessing you never liked watching people work for living to make sure you can drive to the next town over.

Next time you see road work being done. I hope you tell all those nice men, how they are waste of your tax dollars and should go find a real job.
 
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Has any individual ever commanded and directed his own presidential campaign anywhere even close to what almost all pundits are attributing to Trump?...

The closest was Ross Perot. He was a joke at the time, but he had a lot of meaningful things to say that reverberate even more today.
When I'm benchracing politics, I like to get everyone's impressions of what the world would look like today if Perot beat out Clinton v1.0 in 1992.

I would suggest that both SAY they don't but in practice they do. They just call it different things that mean the same.

As opposed to a Hungarian billionaire's importing brown people votes for a corporate white female to make up for the lack of black support...
Hillbilly, redneck, rascist...yes white men have endured more slurs this cycle than any other demographic. Usually from people that are so blatantly colour focused their vision is beyond blurred.
 
If your implying I don't support the constitution you would be wrong. I spend the day explaining to my Hispanic students who were born in The United States that President elect Trump doesn't have the power to deport a citizen. If you are born on U.S. soil you are an American citizen. It would require an amendment to the Constitution to change. That won't happen because any wording that singles out a particular race would be declared unconstitutional.

I believe that when a person makes an informed choice that they feel is best for them then they are doing what's best for the Nation. To many people believe what they hear. They don't look for themselves.

Insulting people doesn't make things better.
So....you supported a candidate that soldified his base by insulting others. I call that a hypocrite. I expect more from a teacher...but if that's the best you have then it explains alot.
 
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