When a white man, Sr71plt calls a black woman a "black bitch" is it racist?

[8inthebox]

They are mentally ill. That does not mean they should face discrimination, but they are still mentally ill. It has always been a mental disorder, but the current zeitgeist claims otherwise by forcing the change from "gender identity disorder" to "gender dysphoria" in the attempt to normalize the illness (for political reasons). I don't agree. They need help and compassion.

This is not bigotry. Really, you are the bigot as you are intolerant to my opinion on this matter. That is the textbook definition of bigotry.

No bigotry was called out in my OP, re-read it.

Actually you're stating your opinion as a fact. I'm simply stating that in my opinion, your lack of understanding of the trans person's situation, and that you're simply writing it off as mental illness, is a bigoted way of thinking. You're entitled to your opinion. As is pilot. As am I. It doesn't mean that those opinions cannot be perceived as bigotry. If it does mean that, then your original post is bigoted towards pilot because you're intolerant of his opinion of you. Which we both know is ridiculous.

 

[lovecraft68]

They are mentally ill. That does not mean they should face discrimination, but they are still mentally ill. It has always been a mental disorder, but the current zeitgeist claims otherwise by forcing the change from "gender identity disorder" to "gender dysphoria" in the attempt to normalize the illness (for political reasons). I don't agree. They need help and compassion.

This is not bigotry. Really, you are the bigot as you are intolerant to my opinion on this matter. That is the textbook definition of bigotry.

No bigotry was called out in my OP, re-read it.

Well this is it in a nutshell. Disagree with you on anything and that person is a bigot and intolerant of your opinion. Yet you're intolerant of theirs.

Back to the default of you always being the victim.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Actually you're stating your opinion as a fact. I'm simply stating that in my opinion, your lack of understanding of the trans person's situation, and that you're simply writing it off as mental illness, is a bigoted way of thinking. You're entitled to your opinion. As is pilot. As am I. It doesn't mean that those opinions cannot be perceived as bigotry. If it does mean that, then your original post is bigoted towards pilot because you're intolerant of his opinion of you. Which we both know is ridiculous.

The post is a bunch of gibberish.

I am intolerant of pilots opinion that I am a "black bitch" and therefore I am a bigot?

You can't be serious. Or do you think people who call homosexuals "dirty faggots" are entitled to their opinion too? How about "deranged trannies" - do you accept that as a simple option that people are entitled to, or are you a bigot?

 

[8inthebox]

The post is a bunch of gibberish.

I am intolerant of pilots opinion that I am a "black bitch" and therefore I am a bigot?

You can't be serious. Or do you think people who call homosexuals "dirty faggots" are entitled to their opinion too? How about "deranged trannies" do you accept that as a simple option, or are you a bigot.

Obviously you didn't even read my post. I stated specifically that it was ridiculous. But it was your argument to me verbatim. I'm bowing out here. An intelligent, rational response from you is obviously not to be had.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Well this is it in a nutshell. Disagree with you on anything and that person is a bigot and intolerant of your opinion. Yet you're intolerant of theirs.

Back to the default of you always being the victim.

Your pal is a shitty racist and misogynist for calling me a Black Bitch simply because we disagreed.

Defend that all you want. It's your life. It's the company you choose to keep. Have at it.

Theres another nutshell for you, enjoy

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Obviously you didn't even read my post. I stated specifically that it was ridiculous. But it was your argument to me verbatim. I'm bowing out here. An intelligent, rational response from you is obviously not to be had.

Pure gibberish. You fall below the median IQ so you simply can't see that.

Bowing out is the only intelligence.youce displayed.

 

[8inthebox]

Pure gibberish. You fall below the median IQ so you simply can't see that.

Bowing out is the only intelligence.youce displayed.

I'm guessing you mean the mean IQ, unless you're throwing out the outliers to try to drive the number down lower. If so, I would love to see the data which shows that there are more people with low IQs than high. Otherwise you're once again stating "facts" without proof to justify your shitty personal opinions. That or you have no idea what you're talking about and picked on someone with a basic understanding of simple statistics who decided to call you out on it. Anyway, that's my last response to you.

 

[Hashfag45]

Well this is it in a nutshell. Disagree with you on anything and that person is a bigot and intolerant of your opinion. Yet you're intolerant of theirs.

Back to the default of you always being the victim.

I actually agree with you about that nasty black bitch.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I'm guessing you mean the mean IQ, unless you're throwing out the outliers to try to drive the number down lower. If so, I would love to see the data which shows that there are more people with low IQs than high. Otherwise you're once again stating "facts" without proof to justify your shitty personal opinions. That or you have no idea what you're talking about and picked on someone with a basic understanding of simple statistics who decided to call you out on it. Anyway, that's my last response to you.

No I mean median. Half of the people I come across fall above, and half fall below.

Your definition of "I bow out" demonstrates you fall south of the line.

 

[CyranoJ]

Seriously, do not bother talking with Funk about trans people. It's absolutely not worth it.

Admittedly her lack of empathy, utter disinterest in actual facts and fascination with bizarre conspiracy theories about trans people doesn't do much to bolster empathy for her case about racist slurs directed against her. (This is actually one of the reasons why intersectionality and trying to be of some worth as an ally is important. Moreover she doesn't seem to have conceived of the possibility of Black people who have queer or trans friends and family members, and actually imagines that such people will afford credibility to her vile, grotesque and insane slanders and nonsense.)

Nevertheless it's not really relevant to the subject of the thread and more importantly, Funk is determinedly deluded about her credibility on this subject (cf. her reply to my first comment on this thread) and totally incapable of assimilating contrary evidence. It's the functional equivalent of talking to JBJ about the virtues of African Americans.

 

[Hashfag45]

Seriously, do not bother talking with Funk about trans people. It's absolutely not worth it.

Admittedly her lack of empathy, utter disinterest in actual facts and fascination with bizarre conspiracy theories about trans people doesn't do much to bolster empathy for her case about racist slurs directed against her. (This is actually one of the reasons why intersectionality and trying to be of some worth as an ally is important. Moreover she doesn't seem to have conceived of the possibility of Black people who have queer or trans friends and family members, and actually imagines that such people will afford credibility to her vile, grotesque and insane slanders and nonsese.)

Nevertheless it's not really relevant to the subject of the thread and more importantly, Funk is determinedly deluded about her credibility on this subject (cf. her reply to my first comment on this thread) and totally incapable of assimilating contrary evidence. It's the functional equivalent of talking to JBJ about the virtues of African Americans.

Ask her about fat people.

 

[CyranoJ]

Ask her about fat people.

I can't wait.

 

[8inthebox]

Seriously, do not bother talking with Funk about trans people. It's absolutely not worth it.

Admittedly her lack of empathy, utter disinterest in actual facts and fascination with bizarre conspiracy theories about trans people doesn't do much to bolster empathy for her case about racist slurs directed against her. (This is actually one of the reasons why intersectionality and trying to be of some worth as an ally is important. Moreover she doesn't seem to have conceived of the possibility of Black people who have queer or trans friends and family members, and actually imagines that such people will afford credibility to her vile, grotesque and insane slanders and nonsense.)

Nevertheless it's not really relevant to the subject of the thread and more importantly, Funk is determinedly deluded about her credibility on this subject (cf. her reply to my first comment on this thread) and totally incapable of assimilating contrary evidence. It's the functional equivalent of talking to JBJ about the virtues of African Americans.

I agree with everything you're saying. I was strictly saying it's hard to sympathize with someone who's treating others the same way. But agreed. On all of the above

 

[hashtag45]

Seriously, do not bother talking with Funk about trans people. It's absolutely not worth it.

Admittedly her lack of empathy, utter disinterest in actual facts and fascination with bizarre conspiracy theories about trans people doesn't do much to bolster empathy for her case about racist slurs directed against her. (This is actually one of the reasons why intersectionality and trying to be of some worth as an ally is important. Moreover she doesn't seem to have conceived of the possibility of Black people who have queer or trans friends and family members, and actually imagines that such people will afford credibility to her vile, grotesque and insane slanders and nonsese.)

Nevertheless it's not really relevant to the subject of the thread and more importantly, Funk is determinedly deluded about her credibility on this subject (cf. her reply to my first comment on this thread) and totally incapable of assimilating contrary evidence. It's the functional equivalent of talking to JBJ about the virtues of African Americans.

While I agree with you on LadyF's judgmental attitudes about transgenders, you are also right that this wasn't the topic of the thread.

Because, leaving aside posters like 8inthebox or so on who made it clear that they separate and condemn both attitudes (st71's insult towards LadyF and LadyF's insults tw. trans individuals) it sounds to me like other posters were using this strictly as a matter of deflection from the thread topic.

In saying that, LadyF never attacked or mocked me when everyone was convinced that I'm either a gay or a trans "female impersonator', Guess who did? Some of your enlightened liberal buddies did.

Not trying to make this thread about me. But since I'm just one in the line of many posters who were harassed by the progressives on such matters, I'm just using my example to illustrate
-- the double standards of some of the self-righteous GB "libs."
-- that things aren't always black and white, and there's no such thing as a 100% pure racist.
I've interacted with the most outspoken 'xenophobes who talked the most vile shit about immigrants (my ethnicity included). But once they got to know me, so e of them treated me well and I even had a couple of them stick for me through thick a d thin.

 

[RoryN]

This message is hidden because hashtag45 is on your ignore list.

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[hashtag45]

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Glad to annoy or bore the heck out of you enlightened assholes.

 

[Saint Peter]

Who spooed on your av?

 

[hashtag45]

Who spooed on your av?

RobDownSouth

 

[Saint Peter]

RobDownSouth

That sucks.

Would you like to borrow my south park av until you get cleaned up?

 

[Hashfag45]

RobDownSouth

 

[CyranoJ]

I agree with everything you're saying. I was strictly saying it's hard to sympathize with someone who's treating others the same way. But agreed. On all of the above

I really wish some Black people would get it through their heads that we all get to the "promised land," or none of us do. You don't get to pick and choose light-skinned vs. dark-skinned, men vs. women, straight vs. queer. You're either down or you aren't, point blank.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Seriously, do not bother talking with Funk about trans people. It's absolutely not worth it.

Admittedly her lack of empathy, utter disinterest in actual facts and fascination with bizarre conspiracy theories about trans people doesn't do much to bolster empathy for her case about racist slurs directed against her. (This is actually one of the reasons why intersectionality and trying to be of some worth as an ally is important. Moreover she doesn't seem to have conceived of the possibility of Black people who have queer or trans friends and family members, and actually imagines that such people will afford credibility to her vile, grotesque and insane slanders and nonsense.)

Nevertheless it's not really relevant to the subject of the thread and more importantly, Funk is determinedly deluded about her credibility on this subject (cf. her reply to my first comment on this thread) and totally incapable of assimilating contrary evidence. It's the functional equivalent of talking to JBJ about the virtues of African Americans.

Wrong thread, but I would be interested in reviewing your "actual facts" about the mental health status of trans people if you want to create (or bump) an appropriate one.

I personally have known quite a few for a good 20 years now, way before the trend... so your throwing race into it makes no sense. But what do I know, I'm just a black bitch. Right?

 

[lovecraft68]

RobDownSouth

Were you holding a cheeseburger to get him that excited? Or were you talking dirty by spewing anti-Semitic slurs? Those are about the only things that can get him hard.

 

[CyranoJ]

But what do I know, I'm just a black bitch. Right?

Lamest attempt at derailment. EVER.

I tried having an actual conversation with you about trans issues and anyone who reviews the thread I linked can see how it went. I'm not a masochist, sorry.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I really wish some Black people would get it through their heads that we all get to the "promised land," or none of us do. You don't get to pick and choose light-skinned vs. dark-skinned, women vs. men, queer vs. straight. You're either down or you aren't.

Wow, the black bitch desires the "promised land" like an old darkie in a negro spiritual sung by crows in a cartoon.

And threw in a bit of colorism to boot... how bold.
<---- My skin is dark after all.

Fuck you.

My life is great as is. Very shocking thing for a black bitch to say, huh?

And I am an atheist. Double fuck you and your "promised land".