How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Conager]

How to get to Heaven ... TrY HaRdEr!!!!!

I expect he is hoping that his version of Heaven is humorless.

I have a problem with people speaking of Heaven as if it is some kind of grand finish line; stretch your chest out for the tape and be declared a winner and entered into heaven. To what end what will I do there?

Any answers I get to that are things found in the human experience here on Earth? So why not work to expand and improve upon your experiences here on Earth. Heaven will take care of itself if you do.

I also have a problem with the concept of by Grace you are saved despite any despicable thing you might do before and after being "saved". As opposed to by Grace you are saved after all the good works you can do.

 

[phrodeau]

With that in mind, I am going to see if I can top seventy-two virgins before I croak.

 

[Conager]

With that in mind, I am going to see if I can top seventy-two virgins before I croak.

Exactly.

If there are 72 virgins waiting I think my disembodied Spirit would realize that I'm actually in Hell Since I no longer have a body with which to fuck them.

 

[Tryharder62]

I expect he is hoping that his version of Heaven is humorless.

I have a problem with people speaking of Heaven as if it is some kind of grand finish line; stretch your chest out for the tape and be declared a winner and entered into heaven. To what end what will I do there?

Any answers I get to that are things found in the human experience here on Earth? So why not work to expand and improve upon your experiences here on Earth. Heaven will take care of itself if you do.

I also have a problem with the concept of by Grace you are saved despite any despicable thing you might do before and after being "saved". As opposed to by Grace you are saved after all the good works you can do.

Tryharder is a girl!!!!!!!!! I am a very funny girl - at least my therapist says so.

I think what you wrote is right on. I appreciate you explanation.

I believe if you aren't wanting to do works there is a problem. I just know I could never be good enough to deserve what he did.

My problem is that from what I read about heaven it is a beautiful, amazing, place but that we are going to spend our time praising God. I mean all our time. In the contest of eternity, forever and ever, that seems a little boring. Sorry Lord it is what I think about.

It's funny about my name. When I joined lit I was really going through a mess. I wrote about it but decided to delete it. But I did think when I have problems- I just Tryharder. Not to far off guys. Who knew other people were Trying Harder too so I had to do 62.

Eyer. LOL

 

[juttjaw]

How can anyone give a description of heaven? None of us have been there.

In my personal opinion, there is no heaven, there is no hell.. Obviously this isn't a unique view. But it's certainly a guilt free existence. I'm a good person, I do good things. I just don't have the weight of some God hanging over my shoulders. Pressing and pulling. It's neat

Afterlife?? I hope there is one. I just don't want to go to black. I hope there is another dimension that we'll all slip to and lead a totally different life.. However, that's about as silly as heaven. Isn't it?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

How can anyone give a description of heaven? None of us have been there.

In my personal opinion, there is no heaven, there is no hell.. Obviously this isn't a unique view. But it's certainly a guilt free existence. I'm a good person, I do good things. I just don't have the weight of some God hanging over my shoulders. Pressing and pulling. It's neat

Afterlife?? I hope there is one. I just don't want to go to black. I hope there is another dimension that we'll all slip to and lead a totally different life.. However, that's about as silly as heaven. Isn't it?

Jesus has been there. Paul was there and came back to tell what he saw. John saw heaven and came back to tell what he saw.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Exactly.

If there are 72 virgins waiting I think my disembodied Spirit would realize that I'm actually in Hell Since I no longer have a body with which to fuck them.

That kind of does happen to people who go to hell. They still have the same desires and wants that they did here, but they will never be satisified.

 

[juttjaw]

Jesus has been there. Paul was there and came back to tell what he saw. John saw heaven and came back to tell what he saw.

Funny. I'm not going to try and press my point. I'm glad you have something that makes you feel better. Good for you. No sarcasm at all.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Nostradamus had visions. So did Mohamed, Buddha and Virgil.

 

[juttjaw]

Nostradamus had visions. So did Mohamed, Buddha and Virgil.

but they were of satan. satan can do all the things that God does. Just for evil people.

 

[Misshotndeep]

but they were of satan. satan can do all the things that God does. Just for evil people.

Your naive and silly. The devil never lies. He is still an angle. Even if it is a fallen one. he gets you with the truth. Buddha does not recognize a "devil" figure. he was actually invented about 200-300 years after Jesus. The Jews have no Satan. And the visual we have is today is based on Krumpus. He was a Austro-Bavarian Alpine folklore figure that came and stole naughty children on Christmas. lol
If you are gonna talk dogma at least learn the history of your own.

 

[juttjaw]

Your naive and silly. The devil never lies. He is still an angle. Even if it is a fallen one. he gets you with the truth. Buddha does not recognize a "devil" figure. he was actually invented about 200-300 years after Jesus. The Jews have no Satan. And the visual we have is today is based on Krumpus. He was a Austro-Bavarian Alpine folklore figure that came and stole naughty children on Christmas. lol
If you are gonna talk dogma at least learn the history of your own.

im not naive, I was being sarcastic.

But hey, thanks for the Theology lesson anyhow.

 

[Misshotndeep]

im not naive, I was being sarcastic.

But hey, thanks for the Theology lesson anyhow.

Oh, Ok. I like talking theology. It is a hobby of mine. mythology, mysticism, dogma. Eastern and Western. I find it fascinating.

 

[Hypoxia]

That kind of does happen to people who go to hell. They still have the same desires and wants that they did here, but they will never be satisified.

How do you know this? Have you been there and interviewed inhabitants?

 

[Misshotndeep]

How do you know this? Have you been there and interviewed inhabitants?

Shhh. His pastor told him. He has probably been there.

 

[Tryharder62]

I'm thinking Christians might check out the Bible and what it says about Hell.

 

[Misshotndeep]

I'm thinking Christians might check out the Bible and what it says about Hell.

The fire and brimstone version comes from Virgil's Dante's inferno. lol

 

[Misshotndeep]

And I checked just to be sure and there are 0 descriptions of hell. Lots of condemnation and warnings about going there but zip descriptions.

Hell!

 

[nerfhearder]

And I checked just to be sure and there are 0 descriptions of hell. Lots of condemnation and warnings about going there but zip descriptions.

Hell!

You didn't look very hard. Lake of fire, fire and brimstone, etc are in the Bible regarding Hell. Dante and Milton added to it and people think those are from the Bible but there are indeed descriptions.

 

[Misshotndeep]

You didn't look very hard. Lake of fire, fire and brimstone, etc are in the Bible regarding Hell. Dante and Milton added to it and people think those are from the Bible but there are indeed descriptions.

I hit search. That was all that came up. Click the link.

 

[nerfhearder]

I hit search. That was all that came up. Click the link.

Because you searched for the word hell instead of descriptions of hell or other names for it. Don't be a dumbass.

 

[Misshotndeep]

That is up there with things like Jesus was not Christian. He did not start the church and according to custom, would have been betrothed and married off long before he died. Do you guys even read that book or just regurgitate what some one tells you?
OH and FYI the first Cohesive Bible is the King James version. It was the firs version of the bible the catholic church ever agreed on . Which is of importance because before that different books, translations and languages were all over. That was a discussion made at the first Vatican. They also made Latin the Catholic churches official language.
That is why depending on which version of the Bible you have the number and names of books change. So does the content. There are books of Stephen, Mary Magdoline and Song of Solomon that are not included, though at one time the last one was. Also, all Christian denominations are an off shoot of the Catholic church so all their roots go back to Paul and up until the Protestant split.

 

[nerfhearder]

I hit search. That was all that came up. Click the link.

From your own link once you stop searching for a particular word...

http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/hell-bible-verses/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Funny. I'm not going to try and press my point. I'm glad you have something that makes you feel better. Good for you. No sarcasm at all.

It makes me feel better, but it is also backed up by the facts and evidence and it's true. But I appreciate the kind words.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Because you searched for the word hell instead of descriptions of hell or other names for it. Don't be a dumbass.

Well if they don't call it hell how do yo know that is what they are refuring to? If you want to be literal then They have to name a place. Not just say a bad place with some of these traits.
It's like the folks that keep mis quoting the eye for an eye thing.
Or the dumb Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve thing. Ofc they had to procreate. God never said don't have sex or fall in love with the same sex... anywhere!