The Debate Finished Just Now

[gotsnowgotslush]

Trump is a rude man.
No manners.
Hogged the debate.

Trump clogged debate with the same old slogans.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Ninety minute debate.
So, would someone please explain to me, how someone wins a debate, before it starts ?

 

[sr71plt]

He came . . . that close . . . to doing a decent job and then his inner traitor kicked in.

 

[phrodeau]

Ninety minute debate.
So, would someone please explain to me, how someone wins a debate, before it starts ?

It's called "controlling the narrative". Say something bizarre and incoherent, watch the opposition waste time and energy trying to prove you're wrong, then drop another before they can.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Today, 09:09 PM

At the very least, that was posted while the debate started.
Some GOP backers cannot keep track of reality...

Around 7 pm ET, two hours before Gov. Mike Pence and Sen. Tim Kaine take the stage for the vice presidential debate, the RNC published several pages of content to its website declaring Pence the winner.

“Americans from all across the country tuned in to watch the one and only Vice Presidential debate,” the page reads. “During the debate we helped fact check and monitor the conversation in real time @GOP. The consensus was clear after the dust settled, Mike Pence was the clear winner of the debate.”

But that wasn’t all. Twitter sleuths soon began unearthing more of the RNC’s accidental predictions.

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/gop-says-pence-won-vp-debate-hours-starts/

Elsewhere...


The post, which was taken down soon after Twitter noticed the error, was titled "Who won the presidential debate" and featured a picture of Pence, Donald Trump's running mate.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

9:04: Chris Wallace introduces a debate between “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton” and “Donald J. Trump.” No honorific for Trump, who makes all his employees call him “MISTER”? CHRIS WALLACE IS BIAS!

9:06: A fine question from Wallace: What’s up with the Supreme Court, amirite?

Wonkette said so

 

[Setanta84]

I think this was Clinton's weakest debate. She let him get under her skin rather than the other way around, literally stammered when Wallace brought up pay-to-play at the Clinton Foundation, and bizarrely completely avoided the charge that she had hired agitators to foment violence at his rallies.

Also, the emails have been brought up twice now and she didn't question their accuracy, just red-baited them. You'd think the people at MSNBC and CNN would stop embarrassing themselves by claiming they are fake when the candidate won't. It's one thing to let your hired hands do the dirty work, it's another to have a completely different message.

 

[LadyVer]

It was Clinton's strongest showing tonight, plus she showed her sense of humor. Trump lost the debate for many reasons, among them was the "nasty woman" comment, and mainly that he refused to commit to the standard for the loser to accept defeat and allow the winner to transition into the role.

 

[JackLuis]

It's called "controlling the narrative". Say something bizarre and incoherent, watch the opposition waste time and energy trying to prove you're wrong, then drop another before they can.

Trump believes he is the best bullshitter in the bullshit business, after all hasn't he stayed out of jail all these years, while costing investors billions!

He believes he will get the Best Advisors!

It's bad enough that Hillary loves Henry Kissinger, but Trump, I hear he is considering John Bolton for State!

 

[sr71plt]

I think this was Clinton's weakest debate. .

Well, of course you do.

Think of how well Trump could have done if she didn't get under his skin (again . . . easily) and he veered away from the points that would have won him points. Oh, and didn't undermine fundamental American beliefs.

So, you think that most of the polls on who won the debate are going to say Trump? Really?

 

[phrodeau]

Is it legal to use illegally-imported steel? Trump seems to think Clinton ought to have stopped him.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Women are nasty, according to Trump.
Women are disgusting, according to Trump.

"You have to treat 'em like shit," said Trump.

Trump is on the national stage, debating a woman.
What does Trump say ?

Trump does not bother to address Hillary, directly- "You're such a nasty woman," is said as an aside, as if he were talking to himself.

He was brave enough to shout "You're a puppet!"

What did Hillary say, that gave Trump the impression he was entitled to use a degrading word to insult his debate partner ?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...e_debate_neatly_summing_up_his_worldview.html

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/trump-clinton-she-nasty-nasty-woman

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...linton-such-a-nasty-1476931080-htmlstory.html

 

[sr71plt]

Is it legal to use illegally-imported steel? Trump seems to think Clinton ought to have stopped him.

He continues to miss the point that anyone wanting to be president has to be more lily white about such things--and his taxes--than the standard of "as long as there's no law against it."

People with half a brain don't like to think they are being played as chumps by some Daddy Warbucks.

 

[sr71plt]

What did Hillary say, that gave Trump the impression he was entitled to use a degrading word to insult his debate partner ?

Well, she did say he was Putin's puppet. I think it would have been better (and more accurate) if she'd said he was Putin's dupe.

And his "you're a nasty woman" comment came to a jab she gave him about paying for something if he couldn't avoid it. But hers was a fair (and amusing) comment. He's proud about not paying any personal federal taxes that the law permits him to avoid.

 

[phrodeau]

Well, she did say he was Putin's puppet. I think it would have been better (and more accurate) if she'd said he was Putin's dupe.

And his "you're a nasty woman" comment came to a jab she gave him about paying for something if he couldn't avoid it. But hers was a fair (and amusing) comment. He's proud about not paying any personal federal taxes that the law permits him to avoid.

It's OK for him to brag about jumping through loopholes, but anyone else who brings it up is nasty.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Hillary debates like a boss!

"... the count was all about capturing how frequently the interrupter was able to really take over. The low number of Trump interruptions, for her, demonstrated what Clinton wasn’t letting Trump do. “Where I am politically, there are things I like and don’t like about Clinton,” Libresco told me. “But having had the experience of being talked over and not being supported by a boss, it was such an f-yeah moment to see her not be cowed by a man who was trying to keep her from talking.”


Trump did not stop, at being rude to Hillary
Everything is Trump and "them," to Trump
Trump and Not Trump

Clinton wasn’t the person who was interrupted most frequently overall — at least not according to Time’s easily checkable numbers.1 That honor went to debate moderator Lester Holt, who was interrupted 27 times by Trump and seven times by Clinton. Meanwhile, if you watched a certain vice presidential debate, you probably also noticed two men interrupting each other … a lot.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...in-the-first-debate-depends-on-how-you-count/

27 years old and waiting for a car to take her home after the U.S. Open in Flushing, Queens in 1998 when she encountered Trump. "As I was waiting, Donald Trump approached me. I knew who he was but I had never met him," she said. "He was with a few other men. I was surprised when I overheard him talking to the other men about me. He said, 'Hey, look at this one, we haven't seen her before, look at those legs': as though I was an object rather than a person. He then walked up to me and reached out his right arm and grabbed my right arm. Then his hand touch the right side of my breast."

http://gothamist.com/2016/10/20/trump_groping_us_open.php


Objectification and depersonalization, she is "this one."
Trump is with men that do not object to his sexism.
She is a stranger. Trump feels entitled to grab her arm.
Trump feels entitled to reach into her shirt and touch her breast.
The men with Trump do not protest the physical assault.

Is it her fault, for not having a body guard to tell Trump not to touch his client ?

http://gothamist.com/2016/10/20/trump_groping_us_open.php

 

[LadyVer]

Fuck Trump and his misogynist entitled ass. I hope he loses bigly. Tremendously bigly.

 

[Hypoxia]

Need I say that Tromp is a lying piece of shit who has already lost?

His very whining and excuse-laden language marks him as a luzer.

Yes, he will accept his loss. He will have no choice. He won't be the one to be inaugurated.

He can bitch, moan, whine, bullshit all he wants, same as he has all his life.

He has Trump Towers. He will never have the White House. He isn't man enough.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

bleurrgghhh

Please tell me the photo still from the debate is a photoshopped paste up.
Trump ties to hide the fact that he is staring at Hillary's breasts while she is answering a question.

ewwww

Trump cannot help himself. They were the only breasts within reach.

 

[about_average]

Is it legal to use illegally-imported steel? Trump seems to think Clinton ought to have stopped him.

I guess with some of those government regulations he wants to get rid of.

And his "you're a nasty woman" comment came to a jab she gave him about paying for something if he couldn't avoid it. But hers was a fair (and amusing) comment. He's proud about not paying any personal federal taxes that the law permits him to avoid.

That he blames Hillary for remaining on the books, ignoring the fact it was a law he lobbied before congress on behalf of.