Trump goes Full Trump, Never go Full Trump

[gotsnowgotslush]

Trump is forming an image of himself in the public eye.

It is getting formed at the cost of the truth, that is scorned.

The problem is that Trump is sacrificing other people's truth.

They are paying the price for Trump's deception.

Trump is seeking to blame minorities for his failure to get elected.

Trump is painting a picture of voter fraud.

Trump is adding to the picture of law breaking minorities.

Trump is exhibiting a pose for his image. Police supporter.

Mike Pence joined in on Trump's apology for causing people personal pain.

Was the apology a joke ? What kind of joke is that ? A sarcastic joke ?

The apology to the public by Trump was rendered meaningless.

Trump continues to hurt people. He is causing personal pain.

Death threats are particularly painful.

Trump's trolls are happy to share in giving out pain.


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/tru...espite-exoneration-and-41-million-settlement/

Trump exploited the "Wilding Teens" story for attention.
The group of teens were labelled "The Central Park 5."
The teens went to prison for a murder they did not commit.
The teens were victims of a conspiracy.
The teens were freed and given a settlement of $41 million related to their wrongful imprisonment.

They real killer of the Central Park Jogger was sent to prison.
Matias Reyes, who confessed and did so without coercion, and his semen was connected by “a factor of one in 6,000,000,000 people” to that which was found on the victim.

http://www.spin.com/2016/10/donald-...he-central-park-five-is-genuinely-terrifying/


Wilding Teens is a false meme.

1989

Trump took out an ad in the New York Times that used the Central Park Five case as a reason why the state of New York needed to bring back the death penalty.

Trump exploited the situation to gain attention for himself.

Trump brought up the false meme, again.

October 6, 2016 CNN report

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-park-5/

"...he is undoubtedly holding steadfast to an opinion in the face of DNA evidence to the contrary and the fact that the Central Park 5 have been exonerated by the legal system."

October 7, 2016

A CNN reporter asked Trump this week for his thoughts on the case, nearly 30 years after he called his Old Tetament fury down upon five innocent boys. “They admitted they were guilty,” he said. “The police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. The fact that that case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous. And the woman, so badly injured, will never be the same.”

http://www.spin.com/2016/10/donald-...he-central-park-five-is-genuinely-terrifying/

Going Full Trump. Flying full force, at the face of truth.

Who else went Fulll Trump, this week ?

Say anything! You will not have credibility, but you will have attention.

 

[sr71plt]

The interesting question is what Trump will do and where will he go after the election (assuming he loses). All of his pretense is being stripped away and he will forever after be depicted as the "emperor" without clothes. Can his ego endure that without escaping to exile in someplace like Monte Carlo, where he can pretend that everywhere/everyone else doesn't exist and isn't laughing at him?

And if he does win, his past will already have been stripped down to the pettiness and lies that is him and he will be contained and marginalized by the system. It still will be something that his ego and self-image can't absorb and survive.

Running for president may have been his one risky shot at his past catching up with him anyway and tossing him into total bankruptcy and maybe prison, but it won't be a gamble he will have won. It inevitably turned the glare of the spotlight on his past.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Some views from members of the group of teens, who were freed from prison, after false accusations of murder are revived (Central Park murder of jogger)

Trump insists on saying they committed the murder, though proof cannot be denied that they are innocent. Trump does not care what effect it has on the victims of conspiracy and injustice.

Trump] was one of the fire starters—really the main fire starter—because his name held a lot more weight," he said. His ad facilitated "the conviction that was going to happen in the public arena prior to us even getting into the courthouse."

Wise told me he only learned about Trump's ad after watching a documentary on his case several years ago. After seeing it, he understood why the case had become so incredibly charged. "I said, 'Wow! Wow! Wow!'" Wise said. "This is where a great deal of the energy that was directed at me in terms of physical threats" came from.

"The ad was talking about and goes specifically into fears that the public was having at that particular time," Salaam told me. "He's talking about how 'we've had to give up our leisurely stroll in the playground, and we can't ride our bikes, or we can't walk around in the streets because now we're hostages, ruled by the laws of the streets.'" Trump has revisited those themes in his presidential campaign, often citing gun violence in cities like Chicago as indicative of a breakdown in "law and order," which he insists he can restore.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/central-park-five-blast-donald-trump

"Central Park Five Members Blast Trump for Insisting They're Guilty"
author of article Brandon Ellington Patterson
October 7, 2016

 

[patient1]

The interesting question is what Trump will do and where will he go after the election (assuming he loses). All of his pretense is being stripped away and he will forever after be depicted as the "emperor" without clothes. Can his ego endure that without escaping to exile in someplace like Monte Carlo, where he can pretend that everywhere/everyone else doesn't exist and isn't laughing at him?

And if he does win, his past will already have been stripped down to the pettiness and lies that is him and he will be contained and marginalized by the system. It still will be something that his ego and self-image can't absorb and survive.

Running for president may have been his one risky shot at his past catching up with him anyway and tossing him into total bankruptcy and maybe prison, but it won't be a gamble he will have won. It inevitably turned the glare of the spotlight on his past.

I think he could become a real estate developer....in Russia.

 

[phrodeau]

He's got a bright future ahead in the talk radio circuit.

 

[sr71plt]

I think he could become a real estate developer....in Russia.

In the short term, maybe. The first vendor he stiffed would give him flying lessons off the top of a very high building.

 

[The_Trouvere]

If Trump loses the election, which now seems likely, the half of his supporters who are deplorable will think the election was rigged. I will not be surprised if there are violent revolts in part of the country.

The angry white men who support Trump have plenty of guns and ammunition. Many have military experience. Many long for a right wing revolution.

 

[underguy1]

If Trump loses the election, which now seems likely, the half of his supporters who are deplorable will think the election was rigged. I will not be surprised if there are violent revolts in part of the country.

The angry white men who support Trump have plenty of guns and ammunition. Many have military experience. Many long for a right wing revolution.

As if the right wing nutters have the balls for a revolution. They're all talk.

 

[Hypoxia]

Pussygate!

I have speculations. (No, not theories -- a theory is a working, testable model supported by a preponderance of data.) My speculations re: Tromp include these, which may or may not be mutually exclusive:

* Tromp is a paid agent of the Clintons working to throw the election and destroy the GOP. His payoff? More tax breaks, and executive clemency. This assumes HRC is as corrupt as her haters say.

* Tromp looks forward to starting a media empire that out-Foxes Fox. He's already tightly linked to hate-fear-lies propagandists with expertise there. TrumpNews, oy.

* Tromp only has a few months to live; his medical report is bullshit. He'll have a great laugh on his deathbed: "All you suckers swallowed my crap! What morons!"

* Tromp has a getaway planned: He'll be flown to a secret Russian moonbase to live out his days in low-gravity sybaritic splendor with a bunch of Slavic babes.

* The real Tromp is hiding; the figure we see is an impersonator. When faux-Tromp is inaugurated and assassinated, real-Tromp will emerge and impose martial law and purges, like in Turkey.

* When HRC wins, Tromp will decry the rigged election and lead his armed white followers to active insurrection. Many will be killed. Maybe that's his goal.

Do not take any of these possibilities seriously. They are only speculations.

 

[Legatus]

Step 1: Grab America by the pussy.

Step 2: Make America Great Again.

 

[sr71plt]

I have speculations. (No, not theories -- a theory is a working, testable model supported by a preponderance of data.) My speculations re: Tromp include these, which may or may not be mutually exclusive:

* Tromp is a paid agent of the Clintons working to throw the election and destroy the GOP. His payoff? More tax breaks, and executive clemency. This assumes HRC is as corrupt as her haters say.

* Tromp looks forward to starting a media empire that out-Foxes Fox. He's already tightly linked to hate-fear-lies propagandists with expertise there. TrumpNews, oy.

* Tromp only has a few months to live; his medical report is bullshit. He'll have a great laugh on his deathbed: "All you suckers swallowed my crap! What morons!"

* Tromp has a getaway planned: He'll be flown to a secret Russian moonbase to live out his days in low-gravity sybaritic splendor with a bunch of Slavic babes.

* The real Tromp is hiding; the figure we see is an impersonator. When faux-Tromp is inaugurated and assassinated, real-Tromp will emerge and impose martial law and purges, like in Turkey.

* When HRC wins, Tromp will decry the rigged election and lead his armed white followers to active insurrection. Many will be killed. Maybe that's his goal.

Do not take any of these possibilities seriously. They are only speculations.

Or Trump just lives in a world of his own and thinks he's doing fine (like some on the forum are pretending).

 

[patient1]

In the short term, maybe. The first vendor he stiffed would give him flying lessons off the top of a very high building.

Somehow that seems a fitting end to his biography.

 

[Hard_Rom]

* Tromp is a paid agent of the Clintons working to throw the election and destroy the GOP. His payoff? More tax breaks, and executive clemency. This assumes HRC is as corrupt as her haters say.

Hey! That's my conspiracy theory! That and Cruz is a mole for the CFIS.

 

[Hypoxia]

Somehow that seems a fitting end to his biography.

He needn't even travel to Russia. If he stiffs any of Putin's oligarch buddies who own him, it's sayonara motherfucker. (Or would-be daughter-fucker, in his case.)

 

[sr71plt]

He needn't even travel to Russia. If he stiffs any of Putin's oligarch buddies who own him, it's sayonara motherfucker. (Or would-be daughter-fucker, in his case.)

I hope they wait. I dearly am looking forward to how he handles the post-election months--one way or the other.

 

[richmondman]

I predicted earlier in the summer that Hillary would win by 10 points, which in American electoral politics is a landslide margin. Over the past some 20 years, every major political party candidate has garnered at least 46%. Considering the massive demographic trends in the US, Republicans are in some serious trouble today and going forward. Not the least of those problems will be finding some way to redefine the party, but with such splintering and the damage that Trump is doing to it, it is difficult to see where there can be a core base to pull things together.

After Obama was re-elected, Republicans met in Williamsburg, Va to discuss needed changes to make the party more inclusive to women (53% of the electorate), racial minorities and even a broader swath of social moderates (typical of the more highly educated at this time). It was widely reported that Republican leadership saw this as a existential imperative.

Nearly four years later, they never could have imagined Donald Trump, and the most divisive, inflammatory, xenophoblic and, frankly, fascist standard bearer in modern American politics. He is neither conservative nor for limited government. He is not a social or religious conservative. He is who he is - a silver spoon spoiled brat, megalomaniac, misogynist, racist, nationalist, narcissist bully. It is astounding that he is the standard bearer.

Trump's core is older, white, non-college educated christians who live in the South or the Midwest, especially males. That is 20% of the population, and the male share is 9%. Social conservatives can fairly be added to that number, and it is a large number. Then add your traditional "main street" business people that, as a percentage of the population, is modest.

Demographic big trends are cutting deeply into that base. The Republican base described above is declining every cycle by about 2%.

It is hard to imagine a political party having a worse candidate, short and long term, than Trump.

What you're seeing now is that undecided voters, who typically start to formulate their opinions about 30-45 days from the election, starting to declare. Most elections are about the incumbent, even if he/she isn't running, but Obama's approval rating is strong.

I reiterate my 10% call. Hillary has great flaws but luck counts for something too, and she is extremely lucky to have a true buffoon as an opponent. Watch what's about to happen.

 

[underguy1]

He needn't even travel to Russia. If he stiffs any of Putin's oligarch buddies who own him, it's sayonara motherfucker. (Or would-be daughter-fucker, in his case.)

Is there any NATO koolade you don't drink?

 

[Hypoxia]

Is there any NATO koolade you don't drink?

Citation?

You apparently missed the bits where Tromp bragged about sexual assault, wanting to fuck his daughter, political bribery and financial fraud, calling for insurrection and treason, pledging to start wars and commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, repeatedly lying about everything under the sun, and various other shit that he has been recorded saying. And the GOP stand behind him? I say he's a false-flag agent for the Clintons. Let's see how tomorrow night goes. Should be entertaining.

 

[underguy1]

Citation?

You apparently missed the bits where Tromp bragged about sexual assault, wanting to fuck his daughter, political bribery and financial fraud, calling for insurrection and treason, pledging to start wars and commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, repeatedly lying about everything under the sun, and various other shit that he has been recorded saying. And the GOP stand behind him? I say he's a false-flag agent for the Clintons. Let's see how tomorrow night goes. Should be entertaining.

Citation, citation, citation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like dealing with a bunch of 12 year olds here.

You said " Putin's oligarch buddies who own him ".

You clearly know nothing about Russia or about President Putin.

You have drunk the NATO koolade.

 

[sr71plt]

Citation?

You apparently missed the bits where Tromp bragged about sexual assault, wanting to fuck his daughter, political bribery and financial fraud, calling for insurrection and treason, pledging to start wars and commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, repeatedly lying about everything under the sun, and various other shit that he has been recorded saying. And the GOP stand behind him? I say he's a false-flag agent for the Clintons. Let's see how tomorrow night goes. Should be entertaining.

He's been pretty rough on the Clintons, needlessly, to be thought in any way to be a false-flag agent for them. On top of that, anyone who thinks Trump would willingly set himself up for the shit he's getting just to hand the prize to someone else doesn't know his mental makeup very well.

I think he's floating ahead of various indictments and has somehow gotten the idea that if he becomes president in a Hail Mary move, those will all go away. If I were the FBI, I'd check where he has yachts docked and I'd boot the tires of his jet.

 

[phrodeau]

He's been pretty rough on the Clintons, needlessly, to be thought in any way to be a false-flag agent for them. On top of that, anyone who thinks Trump would willingly set himself up for the shit he's getting just to hand the prize to someone else doesn't know his mental makeup very well.

I think he's floating ahead of various indictments and has somehow gotten the idea that if he becomes president in a Hail Mary move, those will all go away. If I were the FBI, I'd check where he has yachts docked and I'd boot the tires of his jet.

We need to build a wall to keep Donald Trump from escaping.

 

[phrodeau]

Donald Trump has accused Hillary Clinton of things that he has been doing himself. Here is a partial list:

1. "Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color, only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future." Trump promotes Islamophobia, xenophobia and white nationalism. He claimed that an American judge wasn't qualified to hear his case because of his Hispanic heritage.
   
2. "She doesn't talk about policy." Clinton has 40 comprehensive policies outlines on her website, and has written a book on policy goals. Trump recently fleshed out his website to 14 policies.
   
3. Trump says Clinton has ties to Russian oligarchs. Trump’s son, Donald Jr., admitted that his father has business ties to Russia. Trump's campaign manager resigned after revelations that he was linked to the Party of Regions in Ukraine.
   
4. Trump says "ISIS is rooting" for Hillary. Several ISIS operatives have come out in support of Trump.
   
5. Trump says Clinton is "trigger happy." Trump's Twitter account frequently makes headlines for his knee-jerk reactions to criticism.
   
6. Trump says Clinton doesn’t have the temperament to be president. He made this claim soon after a Fox News poll was released showing that 65% believe Trump doesn't have the temperament to be President.
   
7. Trump said that Clinton is running a "campaign of fear." He routinely warns about increases of domestic terrorism, gun violence, illegal immigration and civil unrest. He drives his supporters to take illegal and unethical actions against legal, peaceful groups of people.
   
8. Trump says Clinton "lacks energy," and has "low stamina." Clinton attended six events on the day she was diagnosed with pneumonia. Trump told us that he gets his exercise by addressing a rally.
   
9. Trump says Clinton engaged in "pay-for-play." The Trump Foundation made a contribution for Florida AG Pam Bondi, hoping to prevent action on the Trump University lawsuits.
   
10. Trump says that Clinton has "tremendous hatred in her heart." Trump is revealed casually discussing sexual assaults he has made, or would like to make.

What will he say next, that Hillary Clinton doesn't have any balls?

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah, that seems to be Trump's shell game strategy. But it goes down well with his supporters (all "not enough to get him elected" of them) and somehow the Clinton side doesn't effectively turn it back on him enough.

I'm a little disappointed that the counter either isn't done all the time (of course there's so much to do) or it doesn't hit direct bulls eye.

For instance, in the second debate, Trump hit Clinton with why she didn't change the tax law when she was in the Senate. Her retort was that there was a Republican president, which wasn't bad, but it wasn't the killer blow that would show how little he knew about the job he wants (and maybe caught her a bit flatfooted, as well). All revenue bills have to be initiated in the House of Representatives. She was in the Senate. The bulls eye would be to point out that he didn't know who does what in the government, which is also when she should have brought up the 400 bills she was busy sponsoring in the realm where the Senate has a role--with most of those bills being on issues that he publicly supported her on at the time.

And this also brings up how she should be responding to what she's done the thirty years she's been in politics--she has a whole litany of stuff she was doing, which she speaks of in other contexts, but she could roll them off her tonge at this point and, no doubt, amaze us all. It would also be a time to point out that he's been in politics--been offering himself to run as president--for nearly thirty years himself (since 1988) with nothing to show for it but the destruction of an entire political party (which is apparently how he's planning to spend his last month before the election).

And, god, I wish she'd take the "voted for the Iraq war" business on head on. When they voted on this they were given false evidence about what Iraq was up to--including the 9/11 attack. She was the senator from New York. If she hadn't rattled retaliation rockets for the 9/11 attack, she wouldn't have been representing the people of New York. She, along with so many others, rattled the rockets in the wrong direction--because of what her own government was telling her about who needed to be retaliated against. (That said, she is, indeed, a war hawk.)

 

[phrodeau]

The Most Reverend Pat Robertson has now slid his holy tongue into Donald Trump's ginger asshole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DTRkcEg8fc

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

2 Evangelical advisors dropped out of Trumps religious council.
Pussygate was too much for them.

The rest are hoping Trump will kill abortion rights.

Ralph Reed who’s no stranger to the wrong side of scandal, might stick around on Trump’s evangelical council, Tony Perkins will never leave Trump’s side, given that he’s the pastor whose legendary anti-gay rants turned wildly ironic earlier this year as he collected the $100,000 in storm relief the Republican nominee supposedly gave to all of Louisiana.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/...uncil-hes-a-lecherous-and-worthless-predator/

If Trump did, as reported, send a contribution to the church, that doesn't necessarily benefit Perkins or the Family Research Council directly, though some publications interpreted it as a political statement on LGBT civil rights. While the FRC's political activity is controversial, as is Perkins himself and the Greenwell Springs Baptist Church's stance on the LGBT community, it seems the money was intended for flood relief activities. However since we do not currently have documents showing that the donation was made, much less identifying to whom it was made, it is impossible to say exactly where the funds might be going and what they will be used for.

LAST UPDATED: 25 August 2016

http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-donated-100k-la/

Tony Perkins, who is president of the Family Research Council (FRC), an anti-gay lobbying group, is serving as the interim pastor of that church.


The most recent of those donations was made on Wednesday, to a church in Louisiana that Trump had visited during a tour of flood-ravaged areas the week before. Trump sent a personal check for $100,000 to Greenwell Springs Baptist Church, whose interim pastor is a well-known social-conservative activist, Tony Perkins.


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/donald_trump_charity_louisiana.html




Ralph Reed the little weasel, is on the council. He is sticking with Trump, after Pussygate.


No surprise, Florida politicos are sticking with Trump.


Perhaps surprising is Rubio's continued devotion to Trump, whom he'd criticized sharply during his own unsuccessful campaign for the Republican nomination. He also criticized Trump's vulgar comments within hours of the bombshell story breaking.

"Donald's comments were vulgar, egregious and impossible to justify," Rubio tweeted. "No one should ever talk about any woman in those terms, even in private."

Rubio, however, has declined to withdraw his support, a decision that his Democratic opponent in his re-election battle criticized. "He's trying to become the leader of the free world despite these comments, and Marco Rubio is standing by his side," Florida Democratic U.S. Rep. Patrick Murphy said Monday.

http://www.arcamax.com/politics/politicalnews/s-1882482-p2