How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[phrodeau]

Yes, by choosing to accept the free gift of salvation that if offered to you through faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for you on the cross for your sins.

How about Vaikuntha? Can I choose that instead? It sounds heavenly.

 

[Hypoxia]

Religious arguments are useless. All will believe whatever shit they are inclined to believe. Pointing out the irrationality and unreality of beliefs is futile. Pointing out the impossibility and unreality of events recorded in religious texts is futile. Might as well tell a dog not to pant or lick its ass.

 

[Emerson40]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/73a35d5555534211f710a58ec068cf4b/tumblr_o9ww4iOUYd1u5ilexo1_500.jpg

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Dinosaur Carbon 14 Evidence Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvWdWbLcJvQ

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Dinosaur Carbon 14 Evidence Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvWdWbLcJvQ

Lol, you trust a video from a creationist scientist (an oxymoron by definition) but you don't trust the tens of thousands of actual scientists. Archeologists don't use carbon-14 dating for dinosaur bones because it only has a dating range of approximately 50,000 years.

This is how real scientists figure out the age of dinosaur bones.

 

[phrodeau]

Transitional fossil discovered. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/us/mammoth-skull-fossil-found-california/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Lol, you trust a video from a creationist scientist (an oxymoron by definition) but you don't trust the tens of thousands of actual scientists. Archeologists don't use carbon-14 dating for dinosaur bones because it only has a dating range of approximately 50,000 years.

This is how real scientists figure out the age of dinosaur bones.

NONE of the dating methods actually work.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Transitional fossil discovered. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/us/mammoth-skull-fossil-found-california/

Not a transitional fossil between different kinds of animals. They are all mammoths. The only difference is the size and even that can't be based on one fossil.

 

[RoryN]

you trust a video from a creationist scientist (an oxymoron by definition) but you don't trust the tens of thousands of actual scientists.

^^^^ Nail. Head.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

^^^^ Nail. Head.

Creation Scientists ARE real Scientists, MORE than Evolutionary Scientists. Evolutionists need more faith to believe their religion than Creation Scientists do. Secondly, they both look at the actual evidence, both Creation and Evolutionary Scientists, they just draw different Conclusions based upon the same evidence. Much of that evidence, anything that supports Creationism and refutes evolution, is censored from School Textbooks.

 

[phrodeau]

Not a transitional fossil between different kinds of animals. They are all mammoths. The only difference is the size and even that can't be based on one fossil.

What size mammoths did Noah take onto the ark?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

What size mammoths did Noah take onto the ark?

Likely babies. It doesn't matter, because all size mammoths would come from 2 mammoths. Lateral Adaptation is real, just not Darwinian, where one kind of animal evolves into another.

 

[phrodeau]

How do you know that the authors of the Bible were truthful? Did any of them swear to only write the truth, that you know of?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Creation Scientists ARE real Scientists, MORE than Evolutionary Scientists. Evolutionists need more faith to believe their religion than Creation Scientists do. Secondly, they both look at the actual evidence, both Creation and Evolutionary Scientists, they just draw different Conclusions based upon the same evidence. Much of that evidence, anything that supports Creationism and refutes evolution, is censored from School Textbooks.

LMFAO!!

 

[RoryN]

Creation Scientists ARE real Scientists, MORE than Evolutionary Scientists. Evolutionists need more faith to believe their religion than Creation Scientists do.

https://images.alphacoders.com/476/476281.jpg

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

How do you know that the authors of the Bible were truthful? Did any of them swear to only write the truth, that you know of?

Actually, yes.

Joh 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

Joh 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. {in old time: or, at any time}

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

..and yet, there are NO Roman historians who ever refer to events mentioned in the bible. Tacitus was a thorough historian, and never refers to uprisings in the temple, someone rising from the dead, or a cult that follows said zombie bro!

 

[phrodeau]

Actually, yes.

Joh 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

Joh 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. {in old time: or, at any time}

Every one of these claims is heresay, and inadmissible in a court of law.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Likely babies. It doesn't matter, because all size mammoths would come from 2 mammoths. Lateral Adaptation is real, just not Darwinian, where one kind of animal evolves into another.

Evolution ftw.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Creation Scientists ARE real Scientists, MORE than Evolutionary Scientists. Evolutionists need more faith to believe their religion than Creation Scientists do. Secondly, they both look at the actual evidence, both Creation and Evolutionary Scientists, they just draw different Conclusions based upon the same evidence. Much of that evidence, anything that supports Creationism and refutes evolution, is censored from School Textbooks.

Censored like the flat Earth theories or that the world is supported on the back of a giant tortoise.

Actually, yes.

Joh 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

Joh 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. {in old time: or, at any time}

Stop quoting the bible to prove the bible. You are sabotaging your whole argument when you do. If you really knew your theology you could find far better sources of argument. Hume, Descartes, and Aquinas will supply you with arguments that are not hearsay and will actually demonstrate some sort of learning beyond rote recital of dogma.

As an atheist and pagan I could do a far better job of proving your arguments than you can.

Quit while your behind!

 

[RoryN]

Stop quoting the bible to prove the bible. You are sabotaging your whole argument when you do.

Yup. Amateur hour.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Yup. Amateur hour.

And unlearned amateur too. Just a blind follower. There are many convincing arguments for the existence of God. Perhaps not so for Jesus as the son of or an aspect of God. But the actual words of Jesus of Nazareth are quite acceptable to live ones life by. It's the hearsay and commentaries of his possible disciples which are the problem.

 

[1sickbastard]

Yes, by choosing to accept the free gift of salvation that if offered to you through faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for you on the cross for your sins.

1) You still haven't explained why an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity had to engage in ritual blood magic to "forgive the sins" of its creations instead of just giving everyone a pass.

2) Of course, you still haven't explained why an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent deity would have left the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in Eden, where Adam and Eve could get to it easily, knowing beforehand (by definition of omniscient) that they would eat the fruit, while standing right there watching them do so (definition of omnipresent), when said deity could have done any number of things, like put that tree somewhere else, locked it behind closed doors, left angel guardians, etc, (definition of omnipotent).
After all, even human parents make sure harmful substances are out of reach of their children. Your version of god would be considered criminally negligent, assuming a court of law found it to be fit to stand trial, because your deity is apparently dumber than a sack of dirt.

3) But then, you still haven't been able to objectively demonstrate any deity, much less your version of a deity in any manner that can be independently verified. The best you can do is wave around the sales brochure like that has any sort of credibility. At worst you throw up links to websites run by partisan hacks with a vested (fiduciary) interest in the lies they spew, because if they couldn't make a living from religion they'd have to go back to selling used cars, timeshares in Arkansas, or coupon books over the phone.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

..and yet, there are NO Roman historians who ever refer to events mentioned in the bible. Tacitus was a thorough historian, and never refers to uprisings in the temple, someone rising from the dead, or a cult that follows said zombie bro!

Actually, many of them refer to the Resurrection of Christ. I also believe that the darkness and earthquake at the time of His death is also mentioned. Also, what about Josephus? Are you aware of the fact that there are MANY writings from Historians of His time?

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Egypt: New Find Shows Slaves Didn't Build Pyramids.

More evidence documenting the fact that hebrew slaves (or any slaves for that matter) built the pyramids.