Why Don't Regressives See Clinton's Popularity as a Failure of Conservative Policy?

[RoryN]

It's obvious that Trump's popularity is due, in large part, to a failure of Liberal policies re: how they've been accepted / rejected by the American masses. I have no problem recognizing that.

So, why can't they admit the same? Are they wimps?

(Acknowledgement, or flames and semantics? Let's watch the responses...)

 

[pete]

popularity of liberalism doesn't equate to a failure of conservativism, nor vice versa.
they're opposing political beliefs. people tend to fall into one or the other, to greater or lesser degrees.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Clinton is popular?

LMFAO!!

 

[RoryN]

popularity of liberalism doesn't equate to a failure of conservativism, nor vice versa.
they're opposing political beliefs. people tend to fall into one or the other, to greater or lesser degrees.

Right - that's the "nice" response.

Now, get real.

 

[pete]

Right - that's the logical response.

Now, get ignorant.

fyp, kbai

 

[underguy1]

popularity of liberalism doesn't equate to a failure of conservativism, nor vice versa.
they're opposing political beliefs. people tend to fall into one or the other, to greater or lesser degrees.

Not really. Liberals have largely been the management class supporters of capitalism and imperialism.

They have far more in common with traditional conservatives than they do with progressive politics. The rhetoric aside.

They are anti-labour pro-capital.

 

[pete]

Not really. Liberals have largely been the management class supporters of capitalism and imperialism.

They have far more in common with traditional conservatives than they do with progressive politics. The rhetoric aside.

They are anti-labour pro-capital.

modern day liberal politicians seek, and typically get, the support of the labor unions, while the right champions the business sector

 

[underguy1]

modern day liberal politicians seek, and typically get, the support of the labor unions, while the right champions the business sector

They co-opt them yes. But one way or the other labour gets less and big business gets more.

Rhetoric is one thing, economic policy is another. Both camps are neoliberals following neoclassical and Austrian School voodoo economics that benefits the already rich at the expense of everyone else.

In foreign policy they support the wars that are being waged against the worlds' people on behalf of the capitalist class.

 

[pete]

yeahhhh...

i'm gonna duck out before you launch into a diatribe on the sinister cabals that control the military-industrial complex.

g'night!

 

[underguy1]

yeahhhh...

i'm gonna duck out before you launch into a diatribe on the sinister cabals that control the military-industrial complex.

g'night!

Dick head.

 

[RobDownSouth]

modern day conservative politicians seek to conserve the dwindling power of the waning elderly white patriarchy, while the left champion virtually everyone else.

 

[hashtag45]

modern day conservative politicians seek to conserve the dwindling power of the waning elderly white patriarchy, while the left champion virtually everyone else.

And they must be so proud that such fine specimens like you and your numerous attack alts call themselves Lefties, you racist and xenophobic fuck!

 

[Darbhinder]

Did somebody fart?

 

[hashtag45]

Did somebody fart?

What? Now you're posting under one of your racist attack alts, RobDownSouth?
How stupid must one be, to be over the age of 50 and do that sort of stuff …

 

[OldJourno]

modern day conservative politicians seek to conserve the dwindling power of the waning elderly white patriarchy, while the left champion virtually everyone else.

For example, the people of Venezuela are practically starving thanks to all that championing by the left.

 

[phrodeau]

Did somebody fart?

That was BotanyBoy. He should see an electoral map.

 

[Porkwarrior]

I couldn't make it past "Clinton's Popularity" in the OP and take it seriously.....lulz.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7e/0b/a1/7e0ba1775f5f41ae82371373f2ddcc8d.jpg

 

[JackLuis]

Again Two Establishment Shills duping the public to ignore their own suffering and be Patriotic. Attention! Left-Right! Face! And so begins another Circus Maximus!

The Media will sell a lot of Ads this way and the Standing Rock are almost on their own.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Regressive is not the opposite of Progressive which is the American label for Fabianism...





In fact, the word you are looking for is (classic) Liberal.

 

[Sean]

For example, the people of Venezuela are practically starving thanks to all that championing by the left.

Actually, Venezuela's problems stem from a crash in oil prices and deliberate sabotage of the economy by corporations and the US government. Not to say there haven't been mistakes since Hugo went, there have, but it's external forces that are the prime mover in little Venice's ongoing collapse.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Regressive is not the opposite of Progressive....

Meanwhile, back on the reality-based Planet Earth...

 

[Conager]

Clinton is popular?

LMFAO!!

Romney was not wrong that the 47% of the public that pays no income tax or worse, gets more back than they pay, are not open to the idea that never-ending spending cannot go on forever.

Post-Obama that number is well North of 50%.

She's polling at 44% against, arguably, the most flawed RHINO possible as an alternatiive.

Sounds "popular."

 

[phrodeau]

It's obvious that Trump's popularity is due, in large part, to a failure of Liberal policies re: how they've been accepted / rejected by the American masses. I have no problem recognizing that.

So, why can't they admit the same? Are they wimps?

(Acknowledgement, or flames and semantics? Let's watch the responses...)

You now have your answer. They deny reality, redefine words and change the subject.

 

[BotanyBoy]

modern day conservative politicians seek to conserve the dwindling power of the waning elderly white patriarchy, while the left champion virtually everyone else.

What white patriarchy?

Are you stuck in the 50's or some shit?

 

[patient1]

It's obvious that Trump's popularity is due, in large part, to a failure of Liberal policies re: how they've been accepted / rejected by the American masses. I have no problem recognizing that.

So, why can't they admit the same? Are they wimps?

(Acknowledgement, or flames and semantics? Let's watch the responses...)

I think it's more about persons than policy.

I reject the premise that Trump is popular, because his negatives are over 50% There are twice as many Hillary haters as Trump supporters taking his side.

I also reject the idea that Hillary is popular. She's over 50% negative also. While there are more Hillary supporters than Trump supporters, there are still more anti-Trumpers taking her side than her true believers.

Thanks DNC, for giving us a disqualified candidate who couldn't get a job in the Departments of State, Defense or Homeland Security.

Thanks GOP, for giving us an unqualified candidate with no government or military experience.