How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[BotanyBoy]

Because evolution cannot be proven.

Neither can gravity, but I guarantee you if you jump off a bridge you're only going one way.

There is no evidence that one kind of animal evolved into another kind of animal.

There are MOUNTAINS of evidence. You're just living in denial or don't understand the theory in the first place.

God isn't hateful toward His creations.

He didn't create a fiery pit in which to toss his disobedient children into for punishment?

He doesn't threaten them with eternal damnation and suffering if they don't do what he says?

Man feels that way because of Man's fallen nature. God didn't create us sinners

I thought he was our creator? Is he or is he not?

 

[phrodeau]

Lu 17:26 "And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
27 "They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 "Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
29 "but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 "Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

Two thousand years later, no brimstone in the forecast.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

God isn't hateful toward His creations. Man feels that way because of Man's fallen nature. God didn't create us sinners, Adam chose to sin. We all choose to sin. Once a person accepts Christ's free gift of salvation, his view of God also changes to what it's supposed to be.

Ro 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace;
7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be.
8 Those who are in the flesh can't please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.
10 If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

Of course your fictional god was hateful. In my post about Noah's ark (that you ignored because 'facts') I brought up that god decided to kill everyone besides Noah & his family because the earth had become corrupt before him. So he slaughtered everyone in an impossible flood: men...women...children...BABIES...everyone.

The idea that innocent babies & small children could have been corrupt and had to be drowned (a horrible way to get murdered by the way) just documents how literally hatefully and egomaniacal he was...

...if had he been a real person like Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot, it would have been horrible.

But since it's fiction, that's like mourning those that died in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.


PS: He was also pretty fucking hateful when he killed every first-born son in Egypt as a fuck you to Ramses.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Another thing that super-religious nut jobs do that is super annoying is that they think their definition of "Theory" is radically different to a scientist's definition.

A scientific law can often be reduced to a mathematical statement, such as E = mc²; it's a specific statement based on empirical data, and its truth is generally confined to a certain set of conditions. For example, in the case of E = mc², c refers to the speed of light in a vacuum.

A scientific theory often seeks to synthesize a body of evidence or observations of particular phenomena. It's generally -- though by no means always -- a grander, testable statement about how nature operates. You can't necessarily reduce a scientific theory to a pithy statement or equation, but it does represent something fundamental about how nature works.

Both laws and theories depend on basic elements of the scientific method, such as generating a hypothesis, testing that premise, finding (or not finding) empirical evidence and coming up with conclusions. Eventually, other scientists must be able to replicate the results if the experiment is destined to become the basis for a widely accepted law or theory.


Here are 10 revolutionary scientific theories.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

You will probably have no response to these posts as well since facts to a creationist are like sunlight to a vampire.

 

[Tryharder62]

http://www.awesomeinventions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Puppy.jpg

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Neither can gravity, but I guarantee you if you jump off a bridge you're only going one way.

As I said, Evolution is faith based religion.


There are MOUNTAINS of evidence. You're just living in denial or don't understand the theory in the first place.

Name the evidence.

He didn't create a fiery pit in which to toss his disobedient children into for punishment?

No. We aren't children of God until we accept Jesus Christ. God's children don't go to hell.



He doesn't threaten them with eternal damnation and suffering if they don't do what he says?

If you rebel against His Kingdom, you are committing treason against the King of the Universe. If you commit treason in the US what happens to you?


I thought he was our creator? Is he or is he not?

It's even Biblical that non believers are at war with God. It shows in your comments about Him.

My responses are in bold above.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Of course your fictional god was hateful. In my post about Noah's ark (that you ignored because 'facts') I brought up that god decided to kill everyone besides Noah & his family because the earth had become corrupt before him. So he slaughtered everyone in an impossible flood: men...women...children...BABIES...everyone.

There wasn't much to talk about in your post. Just mainly empty assertions on your part. The earth was corrupt and yes God destroyed the earth. That part you are over looking is that He sent Noah to warn them to repent an turn to God for over 100 years while he built the Arc. They laugh at him like men laugh at Christians today. Jesus said that as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the of the Son of Man...

The idea that innocent babies & small children could have been corrupt and had to be drowned (a horrible way to get murdered by the way) just documents how literally hatefully and egomaniacal he was...

They were punished for the sins of their parents.

...if had he been a real person like Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot, it would have been horrible.

Hitler was an evolutionist and occultist.


But since it's fiction, that's like mourning those that died in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

Nope. It's true. But it's interesting how you call it fiction and yet it bothers you so much. Deep down you know it's true.


PS: He was also pretty @#$ing hateful when he killed every first-born son in Egypt as a @#$ you to Ramses

He killed them because the Egyptians were going to kill the Jews first born babies. Do they count?


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My response is in bold above.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

You will probably have no response to these posts as well since facts to a creationist are like sunlight to a vampire.

I have nothing to worry about. The light is on my side.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Two thousand years later, no brimstone in the forecast.

Lu 17:28 ...Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

My response is in bold above.

So, let me see if I understand you correctly:

It was totally cool for your god to kill a shitload of innocent babies because of sins that their parents or the Pharaoh of Egypt committed (even though they did absolutely nothing to deserve being drowned or having their last breath ripped out of their lungs while they slept).

And this is your explanation why your god is not hateful? God only killed their innocent babies because their parents and Ramses were dicks to him. Wow, you must have been on your debate team in high school. Wait a sec...now I must be delusional. There's no way in hell you made it to high school.


You completely buy that 8 people with zero shipbuilding experience took 100 fucking years to build a massive wooden boat (I'm assuming that part of their days involved subsistence farming so they wouldn't starve to death). You think that it's totally reasonable to say that people back in the day lived to 900 years of age. Even though with todays advances in medicine, people can't seem to live past 115 years.

The fake Ark that was built in Kentucky took 1,000 workers over 4 years to build. And that was only possible with power tools, steel supports, and heavy support vehicles like semi trucks and cranes to move and lift lumber that weighed multiple tons. And, another factual point, Noah would have not had access to compound pulleys to lift those incredibly heavy pieces of lumber since Archimedes won't be born to invent compound pulleys for another 2,100 years.

 

[phrodeau]

Lu 17:28 ...Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Now I know you're a troll with no real belief or concern for the posts you make.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

I have nothing to worry about. The light is on my side.

Light = Ignoring facts and evidence from multiple scientific disciplines (Archeology, Egyptology, Geology, Astronomy, etc, etc, and etc).

I'm slowly deciphering your code words.

 

[BotanyBoy]

As I said, Evolution is faith based religion.

No it's a scientific theory, they are very different things.

No.

So you're saying the Bible is wrong? God did not create hell and cast Lucifer his most precious of Angels into that fire pit?

If you rebel against His Kingdom, you are committing treason against the King of the Universe. If you commit treason in the US what happens to you?

Non reply.

Does god threaten the children he supposedly loves with eternal damnation and suffering for disobedience or not?

It's even Biblical that non believers are at war with God. It shows in your comments about Him.

Non reply again.

Is god our creator or not?

 

[phrodeau]

Light = Ignoring facts and evidence from multiple scientific disciplines (Archeology, Egyptology, Geology, Astronomy, etc, etc, and etc).

I'm slowly deciphering your code words.

Light refers to sunlight, since Yahweh is a sun god. Psalms 84:11.

 

[eyerami]

Actually, there are only two. The carnal and the natural man are one and the same.

Really?

Each verse from the KJV; my bold for emphasis within all:

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

- 1 Corinthians 2:14

And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?

- 1 Cor 3:1-3

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

- 1 Corinthians 2:15

I am sure this source if fairly accurate. Read it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

You really shouldn't be so bubble gum "Christian" sure, wannabe...

...Nicaea had absolutely nothing to do with canonizing the catholic church Holy Bible, so, so much of which you conveniently claim as yours today.

BTW (once more): what was your "Church" called before Constantine's victory at the Milvian Bridge in 312 and

You and your bubble gum "Christianity" sister harlot seem to be verrrry eagerly enthused and lazily comfortable speaking for this thing you refer to as God in this thread, repeatedly pontificating (as fact) that God doesn't do that, or God does this...

3 questions for you, wannabe:

1. Do you consider all in whatever flavor of Holy Bible you favor to be the literal word of God?

2. Did God appoint you to speak for him?

If you say Yes to justify doing exactly that throughout this thread, can you point me to exactly where in the Bible God gives you that wannabe authority?

And if you respond No, please explain why you've been so freely doing it anyway.

3. If God is, indeed, Truth, why is it not blatant blasphemy when another wannabe so effortlessly lies through their teeth like this:

He doesn't ask us to love him but to believe in him.

Thanx so much.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Really?

Each verse from the KJV; my bold for emphasis within all:












You really shouldn't be so bubble gum "Christian" sure, wannabe...

...Nicaea had absolutely nothing to do with canonizing the catholic church Holy Bible, so, so much of which you conveniently claim as yours today.

BTW (once more): what was your "Church" called before Constantine's victory at the Milvian Bridge in 312 and

You and your bubble gum "Christianity" sister harlot seem to be verrrry eagerly enthused and lazily comfortable speaking for this thing you refer to as God in this thread, repeatedly pontificating (as fact) that God doesn't do that, or God does this...

3 questions for you, wannabe:

1. Do you consider all in whatever flavor of Holy Bible you favor to be the literal word of God?

2. Did God appoint you to speak for him?

If you say Yes to justify doing exactly that throughout this thread, can you point me to exactly where in the Bible God gives you that wannabe authority?

And if you respond No, please explain why you've been so freely doing it anyway.

3. If God is, indeed, Truth, why is it not blatant blasphemy when another wannabe so effortlessly lies through their teeth like this:



Thanx so much.

You should probably add:

Do you think the bible is the word of god and his word is infallible?

Should people follow all of the biblical laws in the bible?

 

[eyerami]

You should...

Sorry, wannabe: that's about a mile above your pay grade.

 

[Noor]

You should probably add:

Do you think the bible is the word of god and his word is infallible?

Should people follow all of the biblical laws in the bible?

Yes, all 613 of them!

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Then why not just plainly state what dripping from Constantine's universal (catholic) church you consider yourself a member of today?

Do you believe that the Christ appeared to Constantine the night before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge?

Can you share with the GB the status of your "Church" leading up to that night and the next day? (its name back then; what it was preaching; what it was claiming to be its words of God, etc).

Was the Christ a Jew?

Did he ever renounce being Jewish; did her ever dismiss his Jewish religion?

Can you cite from any Holy Bible where the Christ proclaimed he came to create a new religion and be the leader of it?

You state, "Jesus is God in the flesh"...

Can you reference anywhere in God's Words which reveal his insistence that this world needed another religion and it should be called "Christianity"?

If neither the Son, the Father, or the Holy Spirit proclaimed that a new religion must be born...

...who, then, did create this "Christianity" you claim as your own?

The AnaBaptists were the underground Church from the beginning. They were persecuted by the Catholic Church. Read The Trail of Blood by Carrol and Foxes Book of Martyr's.

Read "The Trail of Blood" Here:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Books, Tracts & Preaching/Printed Books/trail_of_blood_jm_carroll.htm

Read Foxes Book Of Martyr's Here:

http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html

Christ created Christianity. He instituted the Church and it's the Bible that we are to follow, NOT the Catholic Church.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Where did God come from?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKrFmrEHvk

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

You should probably add:

Do you think the bible is the word of god and his word is infallible?

Should people follow all of the biblical laws in the bible?

The Word of God is infallible.

No we should not follow the law because we are no longer under the law.

 

[eyerami]

Putting another nickle in the Bubble Gum Christianity Machine...

 

[phrodeau]

The Word of God is infallible.

No we should not follow the law because we are no longer under the law.

Do you think that the New Testament is a Get Out of Hell Free card? It isn't.

 

[Noor]

Do you think that the New Testament is a Get Out of Hell Free card? It isn't.

Not being one of the chosen people, I suppose they need to believe something