Family values my ass. Walmart fires a woman for being pregnant

[LJ_Reloaded]

Where are the hoards of loud rioting feminists when we fucking actually need them. At least the workers' rights folks are raising somewhat of a ruckus about it.

https://campaigns.organizefor.org/p...p-keeps-its-pregnant-workers-healthy-and-safe

Arleja Stephens worked at a Washington, DC, Walmart as a customer service manager in order to support herself and her growing family. She required some time to take care of her medical needs related to her high-risk pregnancy but instead of supporting her Walmart fired her for those absences. She had doctor’s notes that explained why she was absent from work, but Walmart said it did not matter. This action against Arleja goes directly against the new policy for pregnant workers that Walmart claims to have put in place. Walmart may have even violated Washington, DC's law protecting the sick time of pregnant women.

Arleja’s treatment is not an isolated incident. We have heard from many other women that Walmart does not allow time off for doctor appointments, that they are not given light work as an accommodation, and that they are scared they will lose their jobs, like Arleja, if they speak up or ask for help.

In 2014, after Walmart workers and labor rights groups advocated for pregnant Walmart workers nationally with the “Respect the Bump” campaign, the retailer announced a pregnancy policy that would be more accommodating to pregnant workers.

Sadly, two years have passed and many pregnant workers are still being mistreated. Why is this continuing to happen when Walmart claims to have policies to protect pregnant workers?

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Our second son was a floor scrubber for a private company doing grocery stores and other businesses. When Walmart built a super store in town the son got hired there as a floor scrubber.
He ended up a diabetic and was having spells passing out. His friendly Walmart bosses convinced him he should quit or be fired. The reason he did quit was he was told if hew gets cured they would hire him back. By quiting he didn't receive unimpolyement or other benefits.
With luck he got a pancreos and liver. They wouldn't hire him back now because of bad vision.

Look around as you shop and see how many senior employees don't last long.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Our second son was a floor scrubber for a private company doing grocery stores and other businesses. When Walmart built a super store in town the son got hired there as a floor scrubber.
He ended up a diabetic and was having spells passing out. His friendly Walmart bosses convinced him he should quit or be fired. The reason he did quit was he was told if hew gets cured they would hire him back. By quiting he didn't receive unimpolyement or other benefits.
With luck he got a pancreos and liver. They wouldn't hire him back now because of bad vision.

Look around as you shop and see how many senior employees don't last long.

This is why I support a basic guaranteed income. Fewer people would want to work for these sweatshops then.

 

[oddity83]

Its Walmart, do you really expect any better?

 

[Bookishleigh]

http://washingtonpeacecenter.net/node/17394

https://archive.org/details/WalMartFiringOverPregnancyDemo5252016540p

http://www.notey.com/blogs/pregnancy-discrimination

I found all three of those in a basic search in a matter of minutes...I'm sure I could find even more, but I think the point is made. Women do care about these types of issues - it's exactly why they're writing about them, to educate others.

If your complaint is with WalMart do some research into the corporation. It was founded by Sam Walton (male). It's President and CEO is Doug McMillon (male). The Chairman of the Board is Greg Penner (male).

And if you're that concerned about family values and women's issues, feel free to stop shopping at your local Walmart or better yet, organize a protest.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And if you're that concerned about family values and women's issues, feel free to stop shopping at your local Walmart or better yet, organize a protest.

That's the only real way to get at them....not giving them your money is the ultimate protest.

 

[Bookishleigh]

That's the only real way to get at them....not giving them your money is the ultimate protest.

Completely agree - I loathe Walmart as a company. I do not shop there and I know I cringe on reflex now whenever someone even says their name in my presence. They are a terrible company, not just for women but for children, elderly, etc. The only people Walmart truly benefits are the rich.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/25/10_reasons_wal_mart_is_the_worst_company_in_america_partner/

 

[Queersetti]

Well, to be fair, it was her fourth time this year.

 

[Bookishleigh]

Well, to be fair, it was her fourth time this year.

Walmart doesn't play fair

 

[BotanyBoy]

Completely agree - I loathe Walmart as a company. I do not shop there and I know I cringe on reflex now whenever someone even says their name in my presence. They are a terrible company, not just for women but for children, elderly, etc. The only people Walmart truly benefits are the rich.

Well the company was built to benefit the waltons...not women or children. It's a retail chain meant to generate profit, it's not a charity.

I also dislike them and haven't even been in one for almost a decade.



I know this is regressive posting but response to your earlier comment....

It was founded by Sam Walton (male). It's President and CEO is Doug McMillon (male). The Chairman of the Board is Greg Penner (male).

That's largely irrelevant, there are both ruthless female execs and understanding males out there int he corporate world.

Bottom line is women having babies ain't the companies fuckin' problem or responsibility unless the customers make it a problem for the company.

But as long as they do keep giving the company their money the company will step on people as hard as it can to make that money.

 

[Bookishleigh]

Well the company was built to benefit the waltons...not women or children. It's a retail chain meant to generate profit, it's not a charity.

I also dislike them and haven't even been in one for almost a decade.



I know this is regressive posting but response to your earlier comment....



That's largely irrelevant, there are both ruthless female execs and understanding males out there int he corporate world.

Bottom line is women having babies ain't the companies fuckin' problem or responsibility unless the customers make it a problem for the company.

But as long as they do keep giving the company their money the company will step on people as hard as it can to make that money.

Babies aren't really anyone's problem in America (unless you want to terminate a pregnancy then suddenly it's a huge problem).

And sadly, the general public is too consumed with the almighty dollar and are more than happy to shop at this cesspool of a company to save their pennies on boxed crap.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://washingtonpeacecenter.net/node/17394

https://archive.org/details/WalMartFiringOverPregnancyDemo5252016540p

http://www.notey.com/blogs/pregnancy-discrimination

I found all three of those in a basic search in a matter of minutes...I'm sure I could find even more, but I think the point is made. Women do care about these types of issues - it's exactly why they're writing about them, to educate others.

If your complaint is with WalMart do some research into the corporation. It was founded by Sam Walton (male). It's President and CEO is Doug McMillon (male). The Chairman of the Board is Greg Penner (male).

And if you're that concerned about family values and women's issues, feel free to stop shopping at your local Walmart or better yet, organize a protest.

I haven't seen the inside of a Wal Mart in so long I would probably need a map to get to the front doors lol just kidding but still it's been the better part of 10 years.

And the CEOs being female wouldn't help much because Wal Mart is capitalism. But still, Republican family values fucks think Wal Mart is the bees knees of capitalism.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Where are the hoards of loud rioting feminists when we fucking actually need them. At least the workers' rights folks are raising somewhat of a ruckus about it.

https://campaigns.organizefor.org/p...p-keeps-its-pregnant-workers-healthy-and-safe

Silenced by you. Why should the dumb cow have a job, she knows what happens when dick gets inside her.

Congrats on the win, nobody buys your BS posts!

 

[Bookishleigh]

I haven't seen the inside of a Wal Mart in so long I would probably need a map to get to the front doors lol just kidding but still it's been the better part of 10 years.

And the CEOs being female wouldn't help much because Wal Mart is capitalism. But still, Republican family values fucks think Wal Mart is the bees knees of capitalism.

I completely agree with your statements. Unfortunately money talks and bullshit walks. Take Thanksgiving - you have a holiday that is allegedly centered around family values; however, corporate America has turned it into a prequel for Christmas shopping. Those who are fortunate enough to have "corporate" type jobs aren't really affected, but what about those in the service industry who now have to go to work at 4:00 p.m. to open the big box store at 6:00 p.m. for those who simply must have that $14 toaster? It's normally low-income individuals, minorities, single mothers who are stuck forsaking the holiday because they have to work.

*Stepping down from soapbox now*

 

[BotanyBoy]

Babies aren't really anyone's problem in America (unless you want to terminate a pregnancy then suddenly it's a huge problem).

True...and that's one of the bigger hypocrisies of the situation.

The other side of that coin is "I'm a strong independent woman everyone else needs to eat the expense of my reproduction. Give me extended PTO or you hate strong, independent women.".....what an equally ripe load of shit.

Why should anyone (especially the state) have a say so in her reproduction and why should she be able to toss that burden upon anyone else?

And sadly, the general public is too consumed with the almighty dollar and are more than happy to shop at this cesspool of a company to save their pennies on boxed crap.

To be fair most Wal Mart shoppers can't afford to give a shit.

When I was poor I went to Wal Mart for their boxed crap because I didn't have much of a choice.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Silenced by you.

You're full of shit, dude. Enough of your fucking lies. Don't make me have to automate you the fuck out of here.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And the CEOs being female wouldn't help much because Wal Mart is capitalism. But still, Republican family values fucks think Wal Mart is the bees knees of capitalism.

It is the bees knees of capitalism....they provide cheap shit to poor people.

Your flaw is confusing family values with business practices.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

It is the bees knees of capitalism....they provide cheap shit to poor people.

Your flaw is confusing family values with business practices.

Actually the same people who rant about family values also defend this "free market capitalism" thing that is as anti-family as anti-family can get.

This is why we need a basic guaranteed income, then people won't need to work at shithole places like this.

 

[Bookishleigh]

True...and that's one of the bigger hypocrisies of the situation.

The other side of that coin is "I'm a strong independent woman everyone else needs to eat the expense of my reproduction. Give me extended PTO or you hate strong, independent women.".....what an equally ripe load of shit.

Why should anyone (especially the state) have a say so in her reproduction and why should she be able to toss that burden upon anyone else?



To be fair most Wal Mart shoppers can't afford to give a shit.

When I was poor I went to Wal Mart for their boxed crap because I didn't have much of a choice.

I haven't stepped inside a WalMart in ages; however, the last time I went it seemed the items on the perimeter of the grocery (meat, produce, dairy, bakery) were the same as other big box stores such as Meijer or Kroger.

I think both partners should be compensated for the birth of a child. More progressive countries employ family leave in which the mother and/or father can take time off. In a perfect world, one parent would be able to stop working and stay home full time with a child; however, we all know this isn't a perfect world.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I haven't stepped inside a WalMart in ages; however, the last time I went it seemed the items on the perimeter of the grocery (meat, produce, dairy, bakery) were the same as other big box stores such as Meijer or Kroger.

I think both partners should be compensated for the birth of a child. More progressive countries employ family leave in which the mother and/or father can take time off. In a perfect world, one parent would be able to stop working and stay home full time with a child; however, we all know this isn't a perfect world.

^^^ this.

Also:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-guaranteed-income-for-every-american-1464969586

 

[Bookishleigh]

^^^ this.

Also:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-guaranteed-income-for-every-american-1464969586

I couldn't read your link as I don't have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal so I Googled universal income. I came up with this article instead:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-santens/why-should-we-support-the_b_7630162.html

I have to admit I have not heard of this concept before. It's an intriguing one. I'll have to read more about it. I would be curious if this universal or basic income would replace other assistance programs such as food stamps or TANF or be used in tandem.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I couldn't read your link as I don't have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal so I Googled universal income. I came up with this article instead:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-santens/why-should-we-support-the_b_7630162.html

I have to admit I have not heard of this concept before. It's an intriguing one. I'll have to read more about it. I would be curious if this universal or basic income would replace other assistance programs such as food stamps or TANF or be used in tandem.

It should replace all other payouts. I would set it at $1500 a month per person as of age 18, and adjust it for inflation (not the consumer price index, but inflation). That comes out to a hell of a lot for, say 360 million people ($540B per month or $6T per year) but most people will spend that right back into the system - rent, food, bills. That's a guaranteed $5.75 trillion going right back into the economy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Actually the same people who rant about family values also defend this "free market capitalism" thing that is as anti-family as anti-family can get.

How is free market capitalism anti-family??

They aren't even related to one another.

This is why we need a basic guaranteed income, then people won't need to work at shithole places like this.

Who's going to guarantee it? Who's going to distribute all the goods to the masses?

I haven't stepped inside a WalMart in ages; however, the last time I went it seemed the items on the perimeter of the grocery (meat, produce, dairy, bakery) were the same as other big box stores such as Meijer or Kroger.

Yea the basics are pretty stable across the board but you can't beat Wally World on a 72" flat screen.

I think both partners should be compensated for the birth of a child.

By who and for what reason?

More progressive countries employ family leave in which the mother and/or father can take time off.

They also have ultra 'racist' immigration policies that keep a lot of people out unless they are of some sort of value to their societies. That shit is expensive and welfare societies while possible have to be careful about who they let in and do so in a controlled manner so it doesn't collapse the system.

In a perfect world, one parent would be able to stop working and stay home full time with a child; however, we all know this isn't a perfect world.

We used to have that, it was called the nuclear family and the left/feminism undermined it.

 

[Bookishleigh]

It should replace all other payouts. I would set it at $1500 a month per person as of age 18, and adjust it for inflation (not the consumer price index, but inflation). That comes out to a hell of a lot for, say 360 million people ($540B per month or $6T per year) but most people will spend that right back into the system - rent, food, bills. That's a guaranteed $5.75 trillion going right back into the economy.

And again, I admit I have not heard of this system until this evening so forgive my ignorance. Does this mean that all jobs pay the same or that there is a base level of income whether you work or not? I ask because those with advanced degrees (i.e. medical, legal, etc) can see student loan payments eating up a good portion of that allotment. You obviously would want a doctor though who has received the proper education operating on you though. Do they receive this basic allotment along with a salary?

 

[Bookishleigh]

By who and for what reason?


They also have ultra 'racist' immigration policies that keep a lot of people out unless they are of some sort of value to their societies. That shit is expensive and welfare societies while possible have to be careful about who they let in and do so in a controlled manner so it doesn't collapse the system.

We used to have that, it was called the nuclear family and the left/feminism undermined it.

I'm saying if a company opts to provide family leave, it should be applicable to both parties and not just the mother. When I had my son, I worked for a company that didn't offer paid leave nor FMLA protection due to the size so I had to save up six to eight weeks of my pay to ensure we were covered.

And arguing that countries have strict policies as to who can be let in seems rather null at this time since we ourselves are on the verge of enforcing those same strict policies (you're Middle Eastern - you must be a terrorist. You're Latino - you must be a drug dealer. You're Canadian - we'll think about it).

And we all love to reminisce about the good old days of nuclear families and the sunshine warmth of the 50s with the man as the breadwinner and the wife as the little woman who stayed home - with little to no financial resources of her own, no means to leave if she were in an abusive marriage, married to a womanizing drunk, or married to something even worse. And if her husband died leaving her little, well, her options were pretty slim.