How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[xfrodobagginsx]

Dude, if you're going to cut and paste something please provide the link where it came from.

Here. I found it. But that text was in a file I had, not the internet.

http://www.nelsonprice.com/early-secular-writings-regarding-christ/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

And none of it is contemporary with Jesus.

Yes, many of them lived at the same time Jesus did. Not true.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post

Not so. They were murdered, slaughtered and forced to convert or die. It's easy to prove islam is false. The early Christians knew that the Bible was written by the actual eyewitnesses to the events, the koran contradicted the Bible and wasn't written until hundreds of years after the events by some guy mohammad who wasn't event there. Big difference. The Bible is backed up by the secular historical writings of Christ's day. The quran contradicts the secular historians of Christ's day as well.


You were right, Sean. It's a troll.

 

[Phelia]

I hope this thread goes for 16 more pages. We're delving into some really rich discussions that are definitely worth having.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post

Not so. They were murdered, slaughtered and forced to convert or die. It's easy to prove islam is false. The early Christians knew that the Bible was written by the actual eyewitnesses to the events, the koran contradicted the Bible and wasn't written until hundreds of years after the events by some guy mohammad who wasn't event there. Big difference. The Bible is backed up by the secular historical writings of Christ's day. The quran contradicts the secular historians of Christ's day as well.


You were right, Sean. It's a troll.

So, anyone who disagrees with you is a troll? I gave you the facts. You don't like the facts, so that makes me a troll?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I hope this thread goes for 16 more pages. We're delving into some really rich discussions that are definitely worth having.

This is a topic that should be discussed everywhere. The afterlife last forever. I think it's worth thinking about.

 

[RoryN]

So, anyone who disagrees with you is a troll?

...cried the guy who's intolerant of other faiths.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

...cried the guy who's intolerant of other faiths.

I'm not intolerant of other faiths, but it sounds like you are intolerant of Christians.

 

[RoryN]

I'm not intolerant of other faiths, but it sounds like you are intolerant of Christians.

By your own words, you are. So, in addition to being a hypocrite, you're also a liar.

My Christian friends can't stand people like you. You undermine the example of selflessness, inclusion, and kinship they try to exemplify with their faith. I admire those qualities of Christianity. Based on the content of your posts, you don't have those qualities. You're just some dumbass in need of validation because you're actually unsure of what you're preaching.

You'll never admit that, but hey, it's okay - integrity isn't your thing.

 

[1sickbastard]

God does not expect perfection in his creations.

Really? You must not be referring to the Abrahamic god of the Torah/Bible/Koran then. According to every devout adherent of those faiths, at least up to this point, with whom this subject has been broached with me, that god IS perfect and the reason we all need to believe as they do is so human imperfection can be forgiven, because that god hates our imperfection (aka sin).
So to which god are you referring? Moreover, how do you think you know what this god wants, or expects? Can you demonstrate this version of god in any sort of objective, independently verifiable manner?

That is a human failing. Even our Gods these days are expected to be perfect. The old gods had many of the same failings as humans. How can God be perfect if his creations are so flawed?

The gods humans invent are just as fucked up as the humans that made them up.
Got it.

 

[Noor]

So I have to post a link for everything I post even if I get it from my own files?

Yes, you must cite sources if it's not your own writing.

 

[Conager]

By your own words, you are. So, in addition to being a hypocrite, you're also a liar.

My Christian friends can't stand people like you. You undermine the example of selflessness, inclusion, and kinship they try to exemplify with their faith. I admire those qualities of Christianity. Based on the content of your posts, you don't have those qualities. You're just some dumbass in need of validation because you're actually unsure of what you're preaching.

You'll never admit that, but hey, it's okay - integrity isn't your thing.

Word.

 

[ishtat]

. There is a ton of evidence that Dinosaurs lived with men.

'nuff said? - mebbe a few more

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

By your own words, you are. So, in addition to being a hypocrite, you're also a liar.

My Christian friends can't stand people like you. You undermine the example of selflessness, inclusion, and kinship they try to exemplify with their faith. I admire those qualities of Christianity. Based on the content of your posts, you don't have those qualities. You're just some dumbass in need of validation because you're actually unsure of what you're preaching.

You'll never admit that, but hey, it's okay - integrity isn't your thing.

What words have I said that says I am intolerant of other faiths?

Your "Christian Friends" can't stand people like me? Please give examples of how I have undermined the example of selflessness, inclusion and kinship that they try to exemplify in their faith. You admire those qualities? So you just hate and are intolerant toward evangelical Christians? Is that your shtick? Now you exemplify your love by calling me names? Ok then. You are a bigot against Evangelical Christians. That's the real truth.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

'nuff said? - mebbe a few more

Overwhelming Evidence That Dinosaurs Lived With Men:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XitbLp8L6Bk

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

...cried the guy who's intolerant of other faiths.

Muslims believe they are right and that's ok. Hindus believe they are right and that's ok. Buddhists believe they are right and that's ok. Christians believe they are right and that makes them bigoted, intolerant and hateful right?

I believe everyone should have the right to believe what they want. Do Christians have the right to believe what they want?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I have always been partial to the big turtle theory, myself...

Big turtles?

 

[phrodeau]

Muslims believe they are right and that's ok. Hindus believe they are right and that's ok. Buddhists believe they are right and that's ok. Christians believe they are right and that makes them bigoted, intolerant and hateful right?

I believe everyone should have the right to believe what they want. Do Christians have the right to believe what they want?

Yes, you have the right to be wrong, misguided and taken for a patsy all you like. I just wouldn't want to see you in charge of anything important.

Sort of like the Republicans.

 

[1sickbastard]

Actually Dinosaurs just that. Giant lizards. They took babies on the Ark, but if you know the Bible, people lived much longer before the flood. I am certain that this would also be true for other animals. Since Lizards never stop growing and they lived 10x longer, they grew to be huge. There is a ton of evidence that Dinosaurs lived with men. Marco Polo even saw Dinosaurs.

Sure, if by "dinosaurs" you mean "aves" (aka birds). If you mean Jesus riding an Apatosaurus, not so much. I'm guessing your so-called "evidence" the same collection of debunked tripe that Bible literalists usually trot out.
Do you have any evidence that has been published in peer-reviewed science journals?

I've read Marco Polo. No mention of dinosaurs unless you're thinking any largish reptile qualifies as a dinosaur.

Evolution is not a fact. It's a theory and it takes more faith to believe in it than it does in Creation. Take the time to look at the other evidence that the School Text Books are censoring. What about Crocodile Fossils on Canada's Arctic Coast Line? Actually many people believe that Continental Drift is in the Bible. It may have happened at the time of the flood or another time. In no way does that prove evolution.

Ge 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

Ever heard of the missing link? Do you really know what that is? It's the fact that no transitional fossils have ever been found that link one species into another. The only changes that have been proven to occur, which creation scientists believe anyway, is lateral adapation, aka micro evolution (within the species). Macro (Darwinian Evolution) has never been proven to happen because that would require an increase in genetic information, which has never happened, ever, once. Even Richard Dawkins was stumped when asked about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g

In science, a "theory" isn't a wild-ass guess.
It is a model which not only explains the extant body of fact, but also provides testable and potentially falsifiable predictions.
The Theory of Evolution requires no faith whatsoever, unlike Creationism, because it works. Ever hear of selective breeding? Evolution in action.
And no, there is no "macro" or "micro" evolution, except for fundamentalist religion apologists whose faith is so brittle it cannot accept the scriptures, upon which said faith is based, are NOT literal, but allegorical.

In fact, evolution is so well established, even the Roman Catholic Church accepted it as an "enriching reality" in 2005.

Missing link? Define your term, please.
The evolutionary chain of decent has been pretty well established, due in no small part to modern genetics, not to mention geology, paleontology, and nuclear physics.

Creation science? That's a huge contradiction of terms.
Creationism is a religious tenet reliant on ignorance and logical fallacies in order to shoe-horn data into the narrative dictated by a literal interpretation of scripture.
"God did it" is an easy out which explains nothing, cannot be tested, much less falsified and has zero predictive powers.
In other words it's not science. Calling creationism science is like calling a a married man a bachelor

Big turtles?

Iroquois.
The point being is that there are loads of creation stories, which means your particular favorite neither has nor deserves any special consideration.

Me, I kinda like the Cosmic Butter Ocean found in the Vedas. Makes me think of Primus's "Seas of Cheese".

 

[Emerson40]

http://67.media.tumblr.com/b68ba84662121bae2c11129cc404f7a0/tumblr_obglp1lBl31vbrr31o1_500.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

All fossils and all individual life forms are transitional, and all are examples of species.

 

[lickslits]

Your so called god is a myth, does not and never has existed

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

All fossils and all individual life forms are transitional, and all are examples of species.

Yet that can't find even one example of a half breed between different kinds of animals. Interesting. They don't exist. What does exist are examples of Lateral Adaptation. See, in order for one animal to evolve into another, there needs to be an increase in genetic information. The problem is that this has never been seen to happen, even one time ever. The mutations that you see are all within the species. That's why we have different types of Dogs: E.g. Wolves, Foxes, Coyotes, German Shephards, ect. But you never see a half dog and half cat for instance. They ALWAYS stay dogs. That's what you weren't told in School.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[Emerson40]

Yet that can't find even one example of a half breed between different kinds of animals. Interesting. They don't exist. What does exist are examples of Lateral Adaptation. See, in order for one animal to evolve into another, there needs to be an increase in genetic information. The problem is that this has never been seen to happen, even one time ever. The mutations that you see are all within the species. That's why we have different types of Dogs: E.g. Wolves, Foxes, Coyotes, German Shephards, ect. But you never see a half dog and half cat for instance. They ALWAYS stay dogs. That's what you weren't told in School.

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