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so I see on TWITTER that the Brits are calling all those that voted LEAVE....racist.....ha!
What a surprise!
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so I see on TWITTER that the Brits are calling all those that voted LEAVE....racist.....ha!
One of the interesting conclusions of the voting patterns is that the Labour Party drastically underestimated the distaste of many of its core voters for Europe.
For years almost all Labour MPs have been solidly for the EU as the defender of workers' rights. Now their supporters have given Labour a real problem. Opposition to the EU was not confined to UKIP and the Euro-sceptics in the Conservative Party.
The reasons for voting Remain or Leave were complex and individual. Locally several people voted Leave because the establishment was preaching that Remain was the only option, and that a vote for Leave would bring disaster.
Effectively, they voted Leave to stick two fingers in the air (US -Give the finger to) to David Cameron, Jeremy Corbyn and all the economists warning that the sky would fall.
stopThe referendum has caused deep divisions in the UK. The language of the debates has been appallingly bad.
People had to make a choice and whichever way they voted, they should not be abused any more than they have been already.
Immigration was an issue. Even the leaders of the Leave campaign said that they were NOT against immigration. They just wanted the UK to be able to control it and the EU Treaty did not allow the UK to have any control over free movement of any EU citizens.
Refugees were a red herring. The UK hasn't and wouldn't take significant numbers of refugees whether in or out of the EU.
Turkey wasn't a scare story. Negotiations for Turkish citizens to have free movement withing the EU are due to start next week. Yesterday President Erdogan of Turkey was complaining that the EU had already agreed free access to Turkish citizens and should have allowed them in by now.
Romania has been shown to be an easy route for anyone to become an EU citizen with cheap forged documentation. Once a person has a full EU passport, wherever issued, they can travel freely throughout the whole EU, including the UK.
Nothing will change immediately. It will take years to sort out what happens after the vote.
What illegal substance is busybody using now?
I see the vote as a stick in the eye (or up the ass) of the career politicians of both sides of the aisle. The politicians that no longer go before the people and make a case, but go before the people and lecture,
As you point out, the reasons were varied and individual but I think that in the end the vote was a vote of 'no-confidence' in the established political class.
Ishmael
Intriguing piece of news, and such a historical event…The referendum has caused deep divisions in the UK. The language of the debates has been appallingly bad.
People had to make a choice and whichever way they voted, they should not be abused any more than they have been already.
Immigration was an issue. Even the leaders of the Leave campaign said that they were NOT against immigration. They just wanted the UK to be able to control it and the EU Treaty did not allow the UK to have any control over free movement of any EU citizens.
Refugees were a red herring. The UK hasn't and wouldn't take significant numbers of refugees whether in or out of the EU.
Turkey wasn't a scare story. Negotiations for Turkish citizens to have free movement withing the EU are due to start next week. Yesterday President Erdogan of Turkey was complaining that the EU had already agreed free access to Turkish citizens and should have allowed them in by now.
Romania has been shown to be an easy route for anyone to become an EU citizen with cheap forged documentation. Once a person has a full EU passport, wherever issued, they can travel freely throughout the whole EU, including the UK.
Nothing will change immediately. It will take years to sort out what happens after the vote.
Intriguing piece of news, and such a historical event…
I only started to browse through the threads but such interesting takes on it from individual posters, already.
With the risk of sounding a bit… (politics are not my forte) it would be interesting if someone explained a bit more how this might impact the general move towards globalization /NWO. On a more global level, not restricted to Europe.
Thanks
SHUT UP, RACIST, VOX EXPLAINED: Brexit isn’t about economics. It’s about xenophobia.
Isn’t it always?
Who are you talking to?![]()
Apart from all those career politicians in the Leave campaign, obviously.
LOL. Excellent. I'm stealing that.
Like someone said, "The Past Voted Against The Future"
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oggbashan;78384028 But UK people can feel European without accepting the EU AS IT IS. And what we were offered was the EU remaining AS IT IS with no change except ever closer union and more countries joining.[/QUOTE said:dressed as henry the eigth what the fuck do you know?
whats with all the Abbrevatiations?
so is the world now more secure? has Boris Johnson now really got what he wanted? (but didnt realise what it actually meant?)
is the future, geo political or financial now more secure?
will VAT now be scrapped?
would a bullet in farrages head be wasted?
are people so fucking stupid to believe in brexit made up bullshit figures delivered by mr farage (see previous question).
can farage be deported? could he take boris with him so that boris can escape his worst nightmare.
can cameroon be executed for stupidity / cowardice?
how does Mr Putin feel tonight?
is it bedtime yet?
was this just a nightmare?
NATIONALIST is the word of the day, but it means FASCIST. Europe is headed Fascist. It must.
Ideological socialist regimes always become fascist because fascists are pragmatic, nationalist, socialists. Theyre socialists with priorities, and borders, and morals. Fascists take care of their own, socialists cant take care of anyone.
are people so fucking stupid to believe in brexit made up bullshit figures delivered by mr farage (see previous question).