Islamic & Christian Fundamentalism--What's the difference?

Fem said:
Originally Posted by Fermina_Daza
As of 2014, 318.9 million people lived in the United States. The mainstream religion of the United States is Christianity. Members of extremist groups like Westboro Baptist Church and KKK believe that homosexuality is either a sin or taints the pure bloodline. So even if just one percent of the 318.9 million people believe what these groups do, it is quite easily possible that millions of people just here alone wish death upon all homosexuals. It doesn't mean that they would necessarily act on it; you can bet they wouldn't likely to step in and stop it.
QUOTE=BotanyBoy;78105024]And the fact that they aren't doing things like killing/torturing hundreds of thousands in the most gruesome fashions possible makes the scum at Westboro head and shoulders superior human beings on a variety of levels over the IslamoNazis who are burning small children alive for entertainment.

Anyone actually trying to draw comparison between the two is either genuinely ignorant of what's been going on in the middle east or they are willfully ignorant to stay in step with their IslamoNazi loving political ideology.

Fundamentalists like Westboro would probably love to kill all whom they consider worthy of being killed, but like the KKK (who used to hang 'em high or burn them out for whatever reason) who gave up their atrocities due to being sued, learned their lesson through the pocketbook.

The Fundamentalist muslims have no core here to be sued (thoiugh, I believe, some did try to sue Saudi Arabia for fostering so many of the Fundamentalists).

Get at their money and you dry up their ability to buy anything to do harm with. Unfortuneately, there are many who supply them with funds, or buy the oil the took over in their war on Iraq.

Peace

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So let's have that Christian body count for the last five years.

Thousands have been murdered in the name of Christianity. Why don't you do some reading about the subject and enlighten yourself rather than bury your head in the sand.

Have you ever taken the time to find out why Islamic terrorists hate the US? You're a fool not to question things and take a look at your life and see if you're a part of the problem or the solution.

People blinded by hatred and assumptions, who do not take the time to educate themselves as to whether their own beliefs even make sense, are part of the problem.

There are massacres occurring in Africa by Christians against Muslims that make the Radical Islamists beheading of hostages look humane.

Good grief.

Here's a fine, upstanding Christian pastor for you:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-against-muslims-isn-t-getting-any-press.html
 
So let's have that Christian body count for the last five years.

I'm perpetually dumbfounded by the fact that so many people who post in this forum are so keen
to vilify the faith of their own kind. (i.e. someone claimed just today that there are Millions of american Christians who wish death upon all homosexuals :confused:)
- while turning a blind eye on similar, if not worse homophobic beliefs preached by other religions, and attacking anyone who makes even a whiff of a nonPC comment about them.

Nostradamus was right. Anti-Christ and his army are right here, in this forum.

I'm not keen to vilify my own religion but I will not stand by and say Christianity is innocent. I call a spade a spade. There are problems in all religions. I'm just sick of holier than thou Christians acting as hypocrites and assholes.
 
Christians in Uganda? What do they have to do with the States?
Come on… :rolleyes:
US Congress bigots used our tax dollars to fly there and encourage the death penalty for homosexuals and prison time for anyone who knew a homosexual and didn't report them to the authorities. It was only later that the penalties were reduced to "just" prison time.
Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son who now runs his church, was involved in the original campaign.

So yeah, it has to do with the US.
 
US Congress bigots used our tax dollars to fly there and encourage the death penalty for homosexuals and prison time for anyone who knew a homosexual and didn't report them to the authorities. It was only later that the penalties were reduced to "just" prison time.
Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son who now runs his church, was involved in the original campaign.

So yeah, it has to do with the US.
But why? What was their ultimate goal?
Because my understanding of politicians (be they libs. or conservatives or whatever; they're all the same) is that they don't care about ideals and all that stuff. They're simply a means to an end, and the bottom line for them is "more money or more power".
 
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But why? What was their ultimate goal?
Because from my understanding of politicians -be they libs. or conservatives or whatever; they're all the same- , they don't care about ideals and all that stuff. They're simply a means to an end, and the bottom line for them is "more money or more power".

Nah, there are ideolouges too.

Unfortunately, they are mostly on the fringes. Which is why you get shit like this.
 
Nah, there are ideolouges too.

Unfortunately, they are mostly on the fringes. Which is why you get shit like this.

It might look like that, but I don't think that politics is only about Ideologies any more. You see indeed anomalies like Hitler and Stalin and so on, but only occasionally.
-- Nowadays the norm is more in the line of: "how can we accrue more power and wealth". And the ideological stuff is more of a surface thing (either propagandistic to gain acceptance by masses, or a divide and conquer thing).

The US during World War 2, for example.
All that talk about ideologies and ethnical stuff and so on. And it was later revealed that it was all driven by a different agenda re the money thing and extending their political influence. Since it was later revealed that americans have been financing and arming both sides of the conflict at different times.
 
It might look like that, but I don't think that politics is only about Ideologies any more. You see indeed anomalies like Hitler and Stalin and so on, but only occasionally.
-- Nowadays the norm is more in the line of: "how can we accrue more power and wealth". And the ideological stuff is more of a surface thing (either propagandistic to gain acceptance by masses, or a divide and conquer thing).

The US during World War 2, for example.
All that talk about ideologies and ethnical stuff and so on. And it was later revealed that it was all driven by a different agenda re the money thing and extending their political influence. Since it was later revealed that americans have been financing and arming both sides of the conflict at different times.
Big scale geopolitics is rarely about ideology. Small scale politics, is a mix. The Uganda case is small scale, comparatively. If you look up these guys, it's definitely ideology. And fringe, hateful ideology at that. They saw a chance to cememt their anti gay agenda in a way they couldn't get away with at home, and they took it.
 
I know of no Christian minister, regardless of the hatred he may vent with respect to various specific sins or sinners, who advocates that members of his congregation have an obligation to kill such people on God's behalf.

And for all the vitriol that is dispensed from Christian pulpits there are precious few Christians who commit theologically inspired homicides.

That's the major difference I see.
It's highly likely more homosexuals have been killed and injured by US citizens of Judaeo/Christian heritage than were killed in Orlando by one of Muslim heritage.

I say likely because the person who killed 32 in a club in 1973 hasn't been caught.
 
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I know of no Christian minister, regardless of the hatred he may vent with respect to various specific sins or sinners, who advocates that members of his congregation have an obligation to kill such people on God's behalf.

And for all the vitriol that is dispensed from Christian pulpits there are precious few Christians who commit theologically inspired homicides.

That's the major difference I see.

Here's one that comes very very close ...

https://amp.twimg.com/v/adf2fa8b-2b00-42d4-a9ac-3e922a3be22d

You should check out some of the backwoods churches in the South if you want to see even more bizzare calls for death.
 
We also had the leaders of two major christian groups who take in millions of dollars each year say the US deserved the 9-11 attacks because we tolerate homosexuals.
 
Here's one that comes very very close ...

https://amp.twimg.com/v/adf2fa8b-2b00-42d4-a9ac-3e922a3be22d

You should check out some of the backwoods churches in the South if you want to see even more bizzare calls for death.

And here's another ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/robert-gallaty-anti-gay-pastor_n_5792996.html

Tennessee Pastor Robert Gallaty Suggests Gays ‘Must Be Put To Death’ Or Remain Celibate

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“God said that the sins of the people had infected the very land in which they live,” Gallaty says in the clip. “So what happens to people who engage in this activity, this sexual immoral activity? Go to Leviticus 20, God gives us the punishment for engaging in these sins… They must be put to death. And their blood is on their own hands.’”
 
And one more ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/14/pastor-praises-orlando-attack.html

VIDEO: Pastor Praises Killing Of ‘Pedophiles’ At Gay Club, Says ‘Orlando Is A Little Safer’ Now
Roger Jimenez of Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento gave sickening sermon on Sunday, praising the work of an Islamic terrorist.

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"Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?" he said in the sermon. "Um — no — I think that's great! I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight."

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"If we lived in a righteous government, they should round them all up and put them up against a firing wall, and blow their brains out," Jimenez said in the sermon.

In previous sermons, Jimenez has called for instituting the death penalty for homosexuality.
 
How to fix it?

I personally wouldn't mind deporting every fucking Christian preacher who said shit like this.

So what... Maybe 10 of them.

Throw in the couple thousand Imans who say the same shit and poof... The country is a better place.

An eye for an eye would be my way, but that is probably just me.

And there are a ton of little churches around here that aren't afraid to be even more blunt than those guys.
 
Litlibs are desperately trying to deflect from the fact that the savage who killed and murdered 100 people is an Islamic pig.

Nutcase preachers didn't.

So typical.
 
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