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Even the word immigrant is being frowned upon.
Transgendereism
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Some of Rob's buddies (hidden behind their attack alt usernames, of course) are calling me "stinky 'paki from a thirld world shithole country" and all sorts of lovelies
- while calling me "a racist" for disagreeing with their stance on illegal immigrants.
My take on that is that those who are over-the top emotional about this issue prefer illegals without any qualifications, to clean their toilets and work rough low-paying jobs.
Otherwise, those places will be taken by qualified legal immigrants who often take high-paying jobs.
We're not taking your jobs, you xenophobic morons! We're just filling a void. Not our fault that you didn't make it through College or Uni.
((Not making this about me, of course. This is just Another perfect example of the mind-boggling logic that I encountered in the forum.)).
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It's impossible for them to be racist because they are on the right side, hell, the only side, of the issue de jour. You are wrong, you are less-than-human and given the confidence and anonymity of the keyboard, as such you deserve a healthy heaping of hate.
You have two choices, accept the narrative and agree to everything they say or put them on ignore...
You have two choices, accept the narrative and agree to everything they say or put them on ignore...
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I'll put them on ignore as well, eventually.
But I'm currently in a weird feminazi phase, in which I enjoy and sometimes get a giggle from humiliating middle-aged white racist and xenophobic males.
By showcasing their double standards or telling them that their behaviors suggest that they probably have a small penis.
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Talk about a thread morphing. *chuckle*
First the gender dysphoric DON'T have a mental disorder, then the DO, but they DON'T if it doesn't interfere with their day to day functioning (as they define it). I submit that their definition interferes with MY day to day functioning in that a slice of my life (taxes) is siphoned off to accommodate their disorder. Al can change his name to Alice, take the hormones, put on a dress, have the surgery performed, and when the DNA test comes back, Al is still an Al.
Supporting wholesale illegal immigration is irrational. Another mental disorder that should require treatment.
Ishmael
First the gender dysphoric DON'T have a mental disorder, then the DO, but they DON'T if it doesn't interfere with their day to day functioning (as they define it). I submit that their definition interferes with MY day to day functioning in that a slice of my life (taxes) is siphoned off to accommodate their disorder. Al can change his name to Alice, take the hormones, put on a dress, have the surgery performed, and when the DNA test comes back, Al is still an Al.
Supporting wholesale illegal immigration is irrational. Another mental disorder that should require treatment.
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I would say that you are overdue...
By exchanging with them all you do is make the conversation distasteful. People will generally read around their hate but when you get into yet another losing battle with them, the clever people you were talking about will just abandon the thread in its totality.
By exchanging with them all you do is make the conversation distasteful. People will generally read around their hate but when you get into yet another losing battle with them, the clever people you were talking about will just abandon the thread in its totality.
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Was your dead child transgender, is this why it had to die?
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This is actually the first argument of this sort that I've heard, and probably the best reason for me to stop my current behavior.
Will try to do as advised.
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Transgenderism has given Ishmael's dwindling days on Earth new purpose. He's finally....FINALLY....found the wedge he needs to drive home his toxic "social conformity uber alles" bumper-sticker theology.
Heil Trump!
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This is actually the first argument of this sort that I've heard, and probably the best reason for me to stop my current behavior.
Will try to do as advised.
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Interesting article.
While I disagree with some of the other points made in the article, parts of it express my own views too. (in a more eloquent manner of course, and with supporting evidence)
"The politics of the toilet: A feminist response to the campaign ®Cmssm to ‘degender’ a women's space"
http://www.sheilajeffreys.com/?p=141
Sheila Jeffreys
University o/‘Melbourne. VIC 3010, Australia
" 1.This article is a feminist response to the campaigning activism the campaigning activism of queer and transgender theory which promotes the ‘degendering‘ of public toilets.
- Mary Anne Case (2010).in her argument for unisex toilets, acknowledges the fact that men are violent to women in public toilets. but this does not cause her to demur.
She says that her ‘perusal of sources ranging from newspapers to law report indicates that robbery, assault, molestation, rape. and even murder are not infrequently perpetrated by men who have followed or lain wait for women and girls in the toilet’(Case. 2010: 220).
- rather. she sees the admission of men to women's toilets as providing an answer. because the non-violent men will act to defend the women from the violent men. (Case. 2010: 220].
2.
Unfortunately. research suggests that bystanders very rarely intervene in instances of sexual harassment and assault. (Burn. 2009).
- A 2013 report described the problem. pointing out that ‘kids as young as four are falling victim to or being accused of almost 400 sexual offences at Queensland schools in the past two years’. and about 100 alleged perpetrators were ‘facing court‘ each year (Andersen. 2013). More than half of the incidents were in primary schools and 42 related to rape or attempted rape.
To combat the problem, schoolchildren were being sent to the toilet in pairs or in threes.
Reports of sexual assault on schoolchildren in the toilets by a variety of male perpetrators are also numerous in relation to the US (Lowrey 81 Shin. 2013: Owens. 2012).
- There is another puzzling response to the issue… .. the reality of sexual assault on women and children by men outside toilets is not an obvious reason to make all areas just as dangerous for them.
This might not prevent everyday voyeurism, either.
The problem of creating a ‘right‘ for men to enter women's toilets is that some men have a clear interest in the sexual excitements that they can access by violating women's right to human dignity in such places.
- There is a considerable amount of pornography freely available on the web in which men display and exchange photographs they have taken by stealth. through hidden cameras. of women in toilets and locker rooms. defecating and urinating. or naked in showers. This material is a subset of the genre of pornography more usually called ‘Upskirts', and a Google search for ‘upskirts bathrooms‘. for instance. produces 6,630,000 results.
- Another issue is menstruation which girls may not wish to have to deal with in front of males, in a male dominated society which stigmatises that bodily function (laws. 1990).
Transgender recommendations for change
The most satisfactory way to provide for the needs of girls and women for safety, as well as the interests of those male-bodied transgenders who fear harassment, may be the creation of individual toilets which contain washbasins, and are entered through individual. full-length doors from a corridor, or public space.
They offer dignity. safety and respect to all users and may not require labelling as male or female.
While I disagree with some of the other points made in the article, parts of it express my own views too. (in a more eloquent manner of course, and with supporting evidence)
"The politics of the toilet: A feminist response to the campaign ®Cmssm to ‘degender’ a women's space"
http://www.sheilajeffreys.com/?p=141
Sheila Jeffreys
University o/‘Melbourne. VIC 3010, Australia
" 1.This article is a feminist response to the campaigning activism the campaigning activism of queer and transgender theory which promotes the ‘degendering‘ of public toilets.
- Mary Anne Case (2010).in her argument for unisex toilets, acknowledges the fact that men are violent to women in public toilets. but this does not cause her to demur.
She says that her ‘perusal of sources ranging from newspapers to law report indicates that robbery, assault, molestation, rape. and even murder are not infrequently perpetrated by men who have followed or lain wait for women and girls in the toilet’(Case. 2010: 220).
- rather. she sees the admission of men to women's toilets as providing an answer. because the non-violent men will act to defend the women from the violent men. (Case. 2010: 220].
2.
Unfortunately. research suggests that bystanders very rarely intervene in instances of sexual harassment and assault. (Burn. 2009).
- A 2013 report described the problem. pointing out that ‘kids as young as four are falling victim to or being accused of almost 400 sexual offences at Queensland schools in the past two years’. and about 100 alleged perpetrators were ‘facing court‘ each year (Andersen. 2013). More than half of the incidents were in primary schools and 42 related to rape or attempted rape.
To combat the problem, schoolchildren were being sent to the toilet in pairs or in threes.
Reports of sexual assault on schoolchildren in the toilets by a variety of male perpetrators are also numerous in relation to the US (Lowrey 81 Shin. 2013: Owens. 2012).
- There is another puzzling response to the issue… .. the reality of sexual assault on women and children by men outside toilets is not an obvious reason to make all areas just as dangerous for them.
This might not prevent everyday voyeurism, either.
The problem of creating a ‘right‘ for men to enter women's toilets is that some men have a clear interest in the sexual excitements that they can access by violating women's right to human dignity in such places.
- There is a considerable amount of pornography freely available on the web in which men display and exchange photographs they have taken by stealth. through hidden cameras. of women in toilets and locker rooms. defecating and urinating. or naked in showers. This material is a subset of the genre of pornography more usually called ‘Upskirts', and a Google search for ‘upskirts bathrooms‘. for instance. produces 6,630,000 results.
- Another issue is menstruation which girls may not wish to have to deal with in front of males, in a male dominated society which stigmatises that bodily function (laws. 1990).
Transgender recommendations for change
The most satisfactory way to provide for the needs of girls and women for safety, as well as the interests of those male-bodied transgenders who fear harassment, may be the creation of individual toilets which contain washbasins, and are entered through individual. full-length doors from a corridor, or public space.
They offer dignity. safety and respect to all users and may not require labelling as male or female.
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No worries. I'm sure your mud hut in the New Mexico desert is fairly immune to trangenders and the evil ways it will affect your life of liver punishment and despair.
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Quite ironic that Ish is a guy who at this point certainly consumes more in taxes than he pays in.
Maybe Ish is afraid that transgenders will make him touch dicks (again)?
Cognitive dissonance is this lot's specialty.
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I still haven't got my head around it completely and it gives me such a bizarre surreal feeling…
It's like I'm living in an upside down world.
Over the last few years -workwise, at least- I can say without bias that:
If I had to count them no by no: overall, I had better experiences with the local men, than I had with women.
On the other hand, it's like some male politicians have engaged in this covert war against women and are trying to bring us back into the 19th century.
- Unisex toilets that would be a paradise for voyeurs and fans of upskirt porn.
- Approving and defending misogynistic Islamic practices that haven't been updated yet to the values of the 21st century. Like wearing burkas and so on.
And so on.
And if women complain about the fact that their needs and even safety are subordinated to the needs of the above men, they're labelled as "racists".
It's like I'm living in an upside down world.
Over the last few years -workwise, at least- I can say without bias that:
If I had to count them no by no: overall, I had better experiences with the local men, than I had with women.
On the other hand, it's like some male politicians have engaged in this covert war against women and are trying to bring us back into the 19th century.
- Unisex toilets that would be a paradise for voyeurs and fans of upskirt porn.
- Approving and defending misogynistic Islamic practices that haven't been updated yet to the values of the 21st century. Like wearing burkas and so on.
And so on.
And if women complain about the fact that their needs and even safety are subordinated to the needs of the above men, they're labelled as "racists".
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'nuff said, really.
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^^^^ Notice teh oh-so-clever non-denial of sponging off of taxpayers.
Come and Get Me, You Fairies!
Read it while you can, for one day soon even mere links such as this one will be bannable offenses on the coming Communist GB...
http://takimag.com/article/come_and_get_me_you_fairies_kathy_shaidle#axzz4ANbYfl7w
Read it while you can, for one day soon even mere links such as this one will be bannable offenses on the coming Communist GB...
http://takimag.com/article/come_and_get_me_you_fairies_kathy_shaidle#axzz4ANbYfl7w
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STFU, whiny twat.
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1.Our world is changing rapidly before our eyes, and we're gradually moving towards living in this multicultural global village ruled by only a few.So how do we reconcile and achieve a balance between the -sometimes opposing- needs and values of different social groups? I.e.
- the right of transgenders to be safe (toilet, locker accommodations) /versus the right of women to preserve their own safety and dignity (separated facilities when it comes to bodily functions)?
- the right of (mostly male) Muslim migrants to practice their religion to their own liking /versus the rights of women when such practices are a bit misogynistic?
To me, these seemingly unrelated events have a commonality: the fact that the needs of women -who are in the majority- were subordinated to the interests of other minority groups.. Which is odd, because :
- At a "lower layperson" level, we seem to be living in an increasingly more feminist society, and sometimes the balance is even tilted in favour of women
- But at a higher level (political level) it seems like women needs and interests were subordinated quite a few times to the needs of much, much smaller minority groups.
2.Why is that ?
Is it because liberals fear to be seen as oppressing minority groups? (But in the above examples, those minorities were accommodated on issues that have more to do with preferences than safety, and women safety was often disregarded)
- or is it just part a more subtle trend towards changing society from an increasingly feminist even matriarchal one, back to a more patriarchal one?
Or is it just a matter of splitting the larger population, divide et impera?
- the right of transgenders to be safe (toilet, locker accommodations) /versus the right of women to preserve their own safety and dignity (separated facilities when it comes to bodily functions)?
- the right of (mostly male) Muslim migrants to practice their religion to their own liking /versus the rights of women when such practices are a bit misogynistic?
To me, these seemingly unrelated events have a commonality: the fact that the needs of women -who are in the majority- were subordinated to the interests of other minority groups.. Which is odd, because :
- At a "lower layperson" level, we seem to be living in an increasingly more feminist society, and sometimes the balance is even tilted in favour of women
- But at a higher level (political level) it seems like women needs and interests were subordinated quite a few times to the needs of much, much smaller minority groups.
2.Why is that ?
Is it because liberals fear to be seen as oppressing minority groups? (But in the above examples, those minorities were accommodated on issues that have more to do with preferences than safety, and women safety was often disregarded)
- or is it just part a more subtle trend towards changing society from an increasingly feminist even matriarchal one, back to a more patriarchal one?
Or is it just a matter of splitting the larger population, divide et impera?
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What an idiot.
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The Learning Through Osmosis factor of this jackass s quite impressive.
In lock-step along with eeyore, he bears the cross of knowing what all Liberals think. Always.
