Mind Control & Lesbian Conversion

[Shobe]

Mind Control & Lesbian Conversion STORY COMMISSION

I wanted to pay an author to write a story about something supernatural in nature in the context of a fictional world.

That's it.

I didn't come here to discuss philosophy, sexuality, and the nature of free will.

I was looking for smut. Not pontification on matters that, in all honesty, I don't care about.

I was looking for fictional smut.

That's all.

I came here because there where so many great authors on Literotica that I thought I'd find a good one.

A good author to PAY for a story I DIDN'T want to write myself.

I don't know if I posted this on the wrong thread or just came to the wrong forum altogether but, one thing I know for certain...

I'll NEVER post another PAID COMMISSION JOB OFFER here again.

It's too complicated to hire an author from here.

That's why JOB OFFER HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Hello,

I'm in the market for a long novella, if the price is right at least. I'd like a story involving a woman developing a supernatural ability to control other women. She starts of straight but by the end is giving into her new sapphic lusts.

The story would just follow her coping with her new abilities as she tries to get a handle on them.

First person POV preferred

If interested and you want more details...

PM

Hullo sweetpea!
*whispers discreetly*
You aren't allowed to give out email addresses - you must go back and edit your post to cut that out.

 

[oggbashan]

Hullo sweetpea!
*whispers discreetly*
You aren't allowed to give out email addresses - you must go back and edit your post to cut that out.

And Naoko?

Please edit it out of your quote, otherwise it will still show.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

My Angelwatch is everything you want - female given psionic powers and tries to cope with them - except there's nothing resembling sapphic lusts.

I could write what you're looking for, but I write very slowly and I'm absurdly expensive.

Try proposing a word count and price.

 

[49greg]

you might try asking Susan Jill Parker, I think she does custom stories.

 

[flanneland]

Hello,

I'm in the market for a long novella, if the price is right at least. I'd like a story involving a woman developing a supernatural ability to control other women. She starts of straight but by the end is giving into her new sapphic lusts.

The story would just follow her coping with her new abilities as she tries to get a handle on them.

First person POV preferred

If interested and you want more details...

PM

Some idea; what spawned it?

 

[Shobe]

Some idea; what spawned it?

I've been reading some mind control stuff from Amazon and I like lesbian conversion stories. I thought it would be a good combination.

Made all the corrections to my original post as well.

 

[Hypoxia]

What does she suffer to use mind-control powers? Cost-free superpowers are boring, storywise. Otherwise it's like, oh wow, I can fuck another one, and another... which is okay for short strokers. Episode by episode, she can slurp her way through all eligible females in the county. But then what? Or is that all that's necessary?

Possible costs of each MC exertion include:

* She shrinks
* She ages faster
* She loses an IQ point
* Her immortal soul shrivels
* She absorbs her victim's pains
* She heads towards schizophrenia
* Strange tattoos manifest on her skin
* She slowly transforms into... something...

 

[Shobe]

What does she suffer to use mind-control powers? Cost-free superpowers are boring, storywise. Otherwise it's like, oh wow, I can fuck another one, and another... which is okay for short strokers. Episode by episode, she can slurp her way through all eligible females in the county. But then what? Or is that all that's necessary?

Possible costs of each MC exertion include:

* She shrinks
* She ages faster
* She loses an IQ point
* Her immortal soul shrivels
* She absorbs her victim's pains
* She heads towards schizophrenia
* Strange tattoos manifest on her skin
* She slowly transforms into... something...

There's more to the story than her just being able to manipulate women as she pleases. And I have a lot substance in mind for the plot, including some drawbacks to her abilities and even an over arching antagonist. I didn't want to post all the information here so that's why I just gave a vague description for writers who might be interested.

 

[Shobe]

I'm an idiot. I forgot to enable PMs. Sorry for anyone who tried to contact me. I'm still looking!

 

[HandsInTheDark]

You still need to propose a word count and suggest roughly what you're willing to pay.

You can see my story Toymaker for unlimited mind control and its consequences. The "protagonist" gets (more or less) sex on demand, without cost. It doesn't go well for him.

 

[Shobe]

You still need to propose a word count and suggest roughly what you're willing to pay.

You can see my story Toymaker for unlimited mind control and its consequences. The "protagonist" gets (more or less) sex on demand, without cost. It doesn't go well for him.

Okay, I've revamped the entire post.

 

[flanneland]

I've been reading some mind control stuff from Amazon and I like lesbian conversion stories. I thought it would be a good combination.

Made all the corrections to my original post as well.

This a curious thing. Have you been converted yourself, or do you fantasize about doing it or having it done to you?

 

[Shobe]

This a curious thing. Have you been converted yourself, or do you fantasize about doing it or having it done to you?

Nope. I just enjoy different types of lesbian stories. Conversion is just something I find intriguing. I never place myself in any fantasy, I'm just happy to be a voyeur.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

Your criteria are so specific, down to minutia, really. You've basically plotted out a story. Why not go ahead and actualize it yourself?

 

[Shobe]

Your criteria are so specific, down to minutia, really. You've basically plotted out a story. Why not go ahead and actualize it yourself?

Thank you for the suggestion. But I give up.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

The problem of moral or ethical or practical limitations and boundaries - such as of the kind that would arise with the proposition of the OP - is a significant one, though not one which hasn't been resolved by those who have these kinds of 'powers' and have managed to survive them for a long amount of time.

In truth and in reality, the difficulties or let's say, challenges, do not arise so much from how many people will you just continuously fuck - especially if you REALLY have these powers - but from the variances between people as individuals. Things never unfold all in the same repetitive way, just because you can 'mind control.' Individuals are so subtly different, and sometimes so grandiosely different too. People are NOT all the same inside, certainly not at these levels of intimacy. And it's especially true of women.

For instance - here you can control this woman who has a simply vast deep (more so than the average) emotional harmonic about looking after and caring for, children; and this crosses over to being always 'caring' in this same way, to intimate partners.

And here you have another person, who focusses on self-esteem. And then another one who experienced some form of trauma and THAT affects their style of life and relating. Sexual 'style' with each one of them is COMPLETELY different.

Sometimes in places like this forum, I'm inclined to say something that makes other people ask for 'proof' like for example if I were to say that the complete works of Sappho were never lost like the common conception says, but were secreted out of various libraries and taken to some islands just off the Dalmacian Coast. But then this is not something I would say and there may be good reasons why such a thing has been kept secret for thousands of years.

But if such a thing were true, then these works would contain exactly the type of story sought. And they would be full of intimacies that would simply astound...

On the other hand, I could tell you that the world knows very little even though it believes it knows it all...

For instance, did you know that these famous/infamous 'little gray aliens' in UFO's - of 'our' space age - were written about by Homer?

'Mind control and lesbian conversion, eh?' A wild idea... Yet there are more things under heaven and on Earth, they say...

 

[Hypoxia]

The problem of moral or ethical or practical limitations and boundaries - such as of the kind that would arise with the proposition of the OP - is a significant one, though not one which hasn't been resolved by those who have these kinds of 'powers' and have managed to survive them for a long amount of time.

A prominent mainstream SF theme sees mental powers as double-edged. A mind-controller transmits mental waves. But to actually work, they must be a transciever, to monitor their control signals' effects; positive feedback. To take a soul, you must be able to look into that soul. A controller is thus necessarily sensitive to brainwaves of those they would control -- of all those around them.

That SF trope has the mind-reader battered by waves of consciousness. The pain of the empath, etc. Those with mental powers have necessarily learned strict discipline and shielding if they "have managed to survive them for a long amount of time." Those lacking self-control burn out young. A mature mind-controller can thus emotionally and mentally block intimacy with those around them. Does the self-discipline imply 'good' or 'evil' in their personality? No; we can equally have good and bad wizards.

Let's look at the OP's now-withdrawn request. "I'd like a story involving a woman developing a supernatural ability to control other women. She starts of straight but by the end is giving into her new sapphic lusts. The story would just follow her coping with her new abilities as she tries to get a handle on them." In my suggested model, she is on a steep learning curve with her new powers, which include involuntarily eavesdropping on the thoughts and emotions of people around her. 'Reading' folks empowers her to control and direct them. But oh, how it hurts!

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Yeah good points, Hypoxia.

I mean this is an intriguing proposition but it is not one that people haven't written lots and lots of stories about around here, and probably elsewhere too of course.

It makes me want to know SO-O much more from the OP, too. But if you just leave aside the perpetual dilemma of creative people regarding interlopers abusing creative rights and so on, and consider the proposition at face value...

Why I generally respond so vehemently against people who want to say that everything is explainable by what they box-and-package science into being (in other words, misprepresenting it in the first place) - is that they run fair in the face of so many popular artforms we all take for granted. If you're an uneducated person who has never say for example, been right there at the moment that - here's one example - Dame Fonteyn, at an advanced age, danced with Nureyev the Casse Noisette in their history-making version in London, then you will never know enough to comment about the effects of psychological 'magic' and that is putting it very mildly indeed.

I've noticed that even here, which is meant to be populated by experienced adult creatives, there is often a tendency to reduce impossibly rare creative phenomena to rules and formula.

And this is ignorance and a kind of folly.

'Mind control,' and lesbian conversion - you ought NOT to be able to even notice was actually going on during any particular related story...

I don't think I could be a candidate for the particular task because I never can write to specific objectives myself and pretty much always are just relating my view or version of something that actually happened somewhere/somewhence - and always where I had direct personal involvement in and direct knowledge of. Really, I admire those who can 'invent' stuff; but I can't. Whenever I do it always reads/sounds stoopid to me at the editing stage!

You often find people require 'proof' and 'evidence' of powers and abilities but in fact there is so much of it around but that people don't understand what they are looking at.

The current ASMR phenomenon now has many practitioners but the originators and the pioneers on Youtube and the most successful people, are nothing if not criminally well-organised and making out they are these amateur, good 'ol, homebodies just tellin' little bedtime stories through stereo mics in soft whispers. lol. Seriously. I CANNOT tell you about what I know of the backgrounds of some of them. But er, put it this way, not for no reason did Clapper of the NSA voice concern that the FSB 'had ways of making Ed Snowden talk!'

Now let me go back the the ballet for a moment.

There's the moment. And that should be enough of a clue to y'all about what I was just saying.

Binary algorithms exist in computer communications and especially in those mainstream programs via which the big Wall Street firms steal money off their clients who actually think they are really 'trading live' into the Exchange. Binary relationships are often part of certain practitioners' mind control mechanisms or processes. They don't always work out fortunately, as you suggest, because one side is absorbing frequency from the other, even while they are fiddling with the other person's harmonics.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

I should expand a little on one thing I said and which might hold an interest to the OP.

Roger Vadim came from a family who had some background in Russian and French theatre/ballet production design.

One of his least critically well-regarded movies was 'Night Games' - which IS exactly a story of lesbian conversion or let's say a lesbian interlude thing.

This movie was second-directed by the guy who did the first few James Bond movies so it is an important work in many ways, though generally not well-regarded, as I said.

But anyone who has been on a Russian ballet production will know that they have these 'art and culture' people flitting around in the background, and they are basically, your actual real-life Svengali-type people - and they work not just on the performers but on the audience as well.

For the uninformed it might be hard to tell the moments in which there is 'something special' going on, but this is crystal clear in a movie like Vadim's 'Night Games.' And it's worth watching to witness it. I mean personally I wouldn't go so far as to itemize here what the key elements that make up this 'paranatural' aspect are, but it's open to viewers to observe and come to their own conclusions.

The problem with those who think there are no actual 'secrets' is the difference between say 100 million overall 'views' for some of these artistes in the ASMR scene, and the people with fewer total views. It's very easy for the credulous to pontificate about the science of it all - but these ARE the outsiders who don't actually know anything about it for real who do this kind of pontificating. They cannot, and never will, be able to reproduce the results regardless of how much 'science' they put into it.

It is possible to 'mind control' men/women, and to sexually 'convert' them. There are not that people who know how to do it though. And those commercial 'psychologists' who claim to be able to are way off the page about what is required.

 

[Hypoxia]

It is possible to 'mind control' men/women, and to sexually 'convert' them.

I am skeptical. These concepts are commonly exploited in fiction and propaganda, but IRL? I've not seen convincing evidence, only ungrounded claims.

Human psychology as a target of persuasion has been closely studied for a bit over a century; 'they' know what buttons to push for general results. The PR and advertising industries are built on this. But actual mindcontrol (despite conspiratologists' contentions) seems elusive. And sexual-preference conversion hasn't worked and has even been banned in some states as it usually entails coercion and abuse.

Are MC and conversion impossible? Probably not. Are they handy tropes when writing bullshit entertainments? Sure. Should we accept claims about them now? I don't think so. IMHO that's paranoid-fringe wingnut stuff. I speak from my experience moderating conspiracy-paranormal-UFO forums; MC is just one step from crop circles and secret alien bases.

We should be clear that our authorial discussions of these and other popular LIT tropes are quite hypothetical. We invoke unlikely fetishes and impossible anatomy; motives tailored to a particular end; aliens, vamps, were-critters, and "tentacle monsters"; gender-ethnic-social stereotypes. We should know these are fantasies.

We can delude our readers but we shouldn't delude ourselves.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

"I am skeptical. These concepts are commonly exploited in fiction and propaganda, but IRL? I've not seen convincing evidence, only ungrounded claims."

See the point I'm making is this one - 'I have not seen...'

There's no point pushing too hard on a piece of string when people haven't got sufficient exposure to something.

'Are they handy tropes...?' My point was a lot of people do tropes, very few carry them off so that they win the Oscar. John Barry won one for his music on 'Dances With Wolves.' But the music was straight off an earlier movie he had worked on that died critically. Yet he clearly thought the music was something quite special. And he was right. There is no point being 'skeptical' about someone who over and over and over again proves in the marketplace and with his artistic peers that he has something special and powerful. But what is it? That's my question.

I totally totally agree with you about the very widely spread rubbish about UFO's and Antarctic secret bases or whatever. And I guess my point is that if you really want to get somewhere with the top-shelf 'ideas' for this stuff - in other words, in the same way that John Barry lifts what he does OUT OF THE CLICHE'd and the 'mere' trope - then you have to try and work your way through (or maybe OUT OF) the huge pile of nonsense out there and find things that function.

And like I said - it's incredibly rare; I did not say the things that work are commonly known. That's exactly what I did not say.

My issue, and the one I am trying to 'work over' to you, is that this business of defaulting to the easy 'skepticism' thing, is a cop-out. If you go that route you will always end up with the cliches and the mere tropes, and then what's the point of that? Which is not at all to deny that there have just been a ton of frauds and 'misdirection' experts over the years. But that's the bit we all know (or should know) and recognize. What's the bit that's not so well-mulled over...

 

[HandsInTheDark]

It is possible to 'mind control' men/women, and to sexually 'convert' them.

Yes, it is, if you limit what you mean by control and convert.

Mind Control as presented by the OP and in the category we have for it - no. No one's ever demonstrated an ability to project "mental waves" that affected anyone at a distance. The brain does emit energy in recognizable patterns - that's why EEGs work - but the power output is far too low to affect electrical or chemical reactions even an inch away. The brain would be disrupted by its own power output otherwise. The concept is provably false using physics you learn in school.

But mentalism - using tricks to get people to do what you want - and hypnosis - an altered state of consciousness where people will obey suggestions - are both real. I don't do mentalism, but I do practice hypnotism. (Hobby, not professionally).

Hypnotism can have long-lasting and even permanent effects. But there's a catch - the subject has to be willing to be hypnotised in the first place, and won't do things they are adamantly opposed to. It's not the power to "make someone do what they'd normally refuse to do, like sleep with me" that people think of when Mind Control is mentioned.

What about sexual conversion? I'm of the belief that the sexual desires of many people - and I'll go out on a limb and say women, more than men - is effectively clay that can be molded, especially by someone determined. If you love and ache to please someone, your sexuality will become what they want it to become.

But as far as I know that doesn't extend to core sexuality. If you prefer the girl model, you always will. If you don't, you can't be made to; you can probably be taught to tolerate it, but not more.

There have been sincere attempts to change homosexuals to straight over the years. The success rate is abysmal. There have been attempts to cure pedophilia. The success rate is considered non-existent. Some things just won't convert once set, and they seem to set very early.

 

[Hypoxia]

My issue, and the one I am trying to 'work over' to you, is that this business of defaulting to the easy 'skepticism' thing, is a cop-out. If you go that route you will always end up with the cliches and the mere tropes, and then what's the point of that?

Wrong. Belief is easy, skepticism is difficult. Critical thinking is difficult. If it was easy, we'd all be critical thinkers. Instead, most believe all sorts of shit.

It's belief that settles into clichés and follows formulae. Example: numerous pre-Xian faiths featured a divine trinity and a sacrificial savior born to a virgin. It's a winning formula, same as messengers from the stars, who may be angels or demons or elves or aliens or Cosmic Brothers or mind controllers, depending on the current paradigm.

It's only when we're skeptical of accepted beliefs that we start seeing how reality functions. Suppose you were a European of a millennium ago. Your vision is deteriorating. What can you do? Back then you could pray, or maybe see a witch-woman for a poultice. But the basic assumption was that you're going blind because {JHWH} wants you blind. A couple hundred years later, you could have lenses ground and spectacles fitted. Centuries later you'd endure primitive eye surgery, benefiting from anatomical studies previously outlawed. Later surgeries and interventions are much more sophisticated. All because we stopped believing blindness is a divine punishment.

But beliefs are dramatic and/or comic and/or consequential, so they're fodder for imaginative literature. I incorporate lots of bullshit into my stories -- such squeaks in past my reality fetish because it's damn entertaining. I may write (eventually) MC stories. I've already written a story containing 'conversion' but it's a parody. I can fool and entertain readers. I won't delude myself.

 

[Shobe]

I wanted to pay an author to write a story about something supernatural in nature in the context of a fictional world.

That's it.

I didn't come here to discuss philosophy, sexuality, and the nature of free will.

I was looking for smut. Not pontification on matters that, in all honesty, I don't care about.

I was looking for fictional smut.

That's all.

I came here because there where so many great authors on Literotica that I thought I'd find a good one.

A good author to PAY for a story I DIDN'T want to write myself.

I don't know if I posted this on the wrong thread or just came to the wrong forum altogether but, one thing I know for certain...

I'll NEVER post another PAID COMMISSION JOB OFFER here again.

It's too complicated to hire an author from here.

That's why JOB OFFER HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.