Cut The "GOD" Crap!!!

[OjosMojo]

Incorrect. See my earlier Wiki post.

Geezus.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Allah Akbar to you ISIS Daddy.

Doubling down on the stupid as usual I see.

 

[wistfall1]

Incorrect. See my earlier Wiki post. Most scholars believe that an itinerant preacher from Nazareth did exist and was executed by the Romans on the advise of Jewish religious leaders.

My apologies. Yes, most do believe that Jesus most likely existed, but when you said history, I took it to mean more than just a historical snippet or two such as we do have from a couple of Romans (Christus, or Chrestus), plus from Josephus (though we only seem to have an 1800s rewrtie of it.

A real history is purported to be given by the gospels, that is, more than a snippet, yet an incomplete story.

Insofar as authorship, even the Catholic church has finally admitted that the authors of the gospels are not those we commonly accept, but rather by "inspired" authors of unknown origin (see: The Catholic Family Connections Bible). That bible also admits to the lack of authorship as commonly stated of most of the books of the Old Testament, including such books as Daniel (said to have been written around the 200's BCE, or thereabout, as opposed to Nebuchadnezzar's time).

Thank you for the corrction though.

Peace

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[phrodeau]

The God of Wikipedia has spoken.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

It's Sunday and the 'good folks' is off to church to seek redemption for their sins.

Meanwhile, us heathens are watching them parade by and laughing our asses off at their abject stupidity.

 

[Aella_]

Coincidentally,

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=75274436#post75274436

 

[Vagina_Dentata]

It's Sunday and the 'good folks' is off to church to seek redemption for their sins.

Meanwhile, us heathens are watching them parade by and laughing our asses off at their abject stupidity.

Standing around and laughing one's ass off is as nearly a perfect waste of time, minus the socio-economic networking factor. Congratulations.

 

[Aella_]

It's Sunday and the 'good folks' is off to church to seek redemption for their sins.

Meanwhile, us heathens are watching them parade by and laughing our asses off at their abject stupidity.

That's because you guys lack any knowledge about religion or about what motivates some people to seek it.

I came across people who take what's written literally or interpret things to fit their own bigotted views, indeed.
But I also met people who don't take all things literally, and who are able to distinguish the factual from the metaphor, or to extract the good and overlook the bad. (and that applies to the moderate muslims, too).
For them, it's all about spirituality and the community, about leading a meaningful and moral life. They'd rather do that than watch "Survival island" or "Millionaire matchmaker" on TV, like some atheists do.

I consider myself to be an atheist, btw.

 

[Tryharder62]

I think it is a great gift to make someone laugh. I skipped church today....yearly pancake breakfast for the boy scout. I'll be going to church next week. Just so you know there is coffee and donuts if anyone is interested.

I've been trying to get a new concept started at our church. I think that worship services should have commentators. So if you don't know what's going on you can hear the play by play. Sort of like this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZq6aX4wDQ

 

[NOIRTRASH]

My wife goes to church every Sunday. I never go as I have no use for churches or clergy. On the other hand I don't buy the idea that our universe and its order are happenstance. What we observe and experience isn't chaos.

 

[Aella_]

My wife goes to church every Sunday. I never go as I have no use for churches or clergy. On the other hand I don't buy the idea that our universe and its order are happenstance. What we observe and experience isn't chaos.

wow… You managed to extract the essential and translate it in simple terms, as usual.

I don't believe in the "God or Allah or Budha" or the literal "Jesus took our sins" either, as described by some. But I'm also uncertain about this whole "random evolution out of chaos" atheist theory.
Because it doesn't explain so many things that are too organized. Moreover, animals and people are not just rats in a maze; there's that intrinsic desire for spirituality aka to immerse themselves in the world that surrounds them(be it nature, other beings or the world of ideas), in most of them.

It's the greatest mystery of all, and I believe that neither atheism nor religion have the full answers; but that they complement each other instead.

 

[pensivepoet]

My wife goes to church every Sunday. I never go as I have no use for churches or clergy. On the other hand I don't buy the idea that our universe and its order are happenstance. What we observe and experience isn't chaos.

I'm bettin she looks forward to that hour of quiet all week.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

wow… You managed to extract the essential and translate it in simple terms, as usual.

I don't believe in the "God or Allah or Budha" or the literal "Jesus took our sins" either, as described by some. But I'm also uncertain about this whole "random evolution out of chaos" atheist theory.
Because it doesn't explain so many things that are too organized. Moreover, animals and people are not just rats in a maze; there's that intrinsic desire for spirituality aka to immerse themselves in the world that surrounds them(be it nature, other beings or the world of ideas), in most of them.

It's the greatest mystery of all, and I believe that neither atheism nor religion have the full answers; but that they complement each other instead.

Einstein and Richard Feynman were both atheists yet both said God doesn't play dice with the universe. Feynman said you cant escape the fact that the universe is fulla stuff rather then empty.

We like to think we're the pinnacle of evolution but I think we're much more primitive and not yet capable of knowing it all.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I'm bettin she looks forward to that hour of quiet all week.

Maybe, but she's kept me around 43 years.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Einstein and Richard Feynman were both atheists yet both said God doesn't play dice with the universe. Feynman said you cant escape the fact that the universe is fulla stuff rather then empty.

We like to think we're the pinnacle of evolution but I think we're much more primitive and not yet capable of knowing it all.

Well that's irrefutable proof for a gay bashing sky daddy who has a hard on for wrathfully fucking all his beloved creations up for pretty much anything if I ever herd any!!

 

[Aella_]

Instead of name-calling, why don't you try to dismantle his theory through counterarguments instead? Everything that he said here made sense to me.

I hate the homophobic and racist stuff that he puts out there too, but give him credit when credit's due: When it comes to non-race etc. related other matters, he's one of the more educated and intelligent Litsters.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Instead of name-calling, why don't you try to dismantle his theory through counterarguments instead? Everything that he said here made sense to me.

I hate the homophobic and racist stuff that he puts out there too, but give him credit when credit's due: When it comes to non-race etc. related other matters, he's one of the more educated and intelligent Litsters.

Existence and our ignorance of it's mysteries are in no way shape or form proof of any omniscient/omnipotent entity(ies), creator(s) or god(s).

Dismantling complete.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Instead of name-calling, why don't you try to dismantle his theory through counterarguments instead? Everything that he said here made sense to me.

I hate the homophobic and racist stuff that he puts out there too, but give him credit when credit's due: When it comes to non-race etc. related other matters, he's one of the more educated and intelligent Litsters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Calvin

My racist thinking comes from this guy. He has a theory about people. Societies located within the Tropics never produce advanced cultures. He says there are too few challenges for people with plenty of bananas and monkeys and snakes to eat. There's no competition for food. I'm a rational racist.

I contend the Sahara Desert created Egypt.

 

[Aella_]

Einstein and Richard Feynman were both atheists yet both said God doesn't play dice with the universe. Feynman said you cant escape the fact that the universe is fulla stuff rather then empty.
We like to think we're the pinnacle of evolution but I think we're much more primitive and not yet capable of knowing it all.

True, best argument espec. for the new atheists (the Sam Harris-type ones).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Calvin
My racist thinking comes from this guy. He has a theory about people. Societies located within the Tropics never produce advanced cultures. He says there are too few challenges for people with plenty of bananas and monkeys and snakes to eat. There's no competition for food. I'm a rational racist.
I contend the Sahara Desert created Egypt.

Umm, his thinking sounds like that of the "eugenics" fellas (aka clearly racist) to me, but it's the first time I heard about him.
But I'll have a look tonight. (this is my last break for the day)

 

[Aella_]

First of all, just clarifying that I'm trying to say that "people are different but just as valuable" as opposed to "which group of people is better". ((I'm Not a racist! This is only for any Sean-minded individuals who happen to read this post)).

1.My view is that even if some people are different, their different strengths and weaknesses balance things overall and bring them to the same level.
- For example: One could stretch it and generalize and say that overall, a lot of germans are more conscientious, organized and more "thinking (as opposed to feeling -nothing to do with IQ) oriented" than some Southern Europeans or South Americans. On the other hand, some of the latter tend to be a bit more creativ. than the first.

2.And even if some people "make it" compared to others:
Are those characteristics that ensure their success only due to biology or socialization?
- At the level of nations: one looks back in time and sees that historically or geographically, some nations had more advantages compared to others.
- At an individual level you see so many things that might make a difference, besides intellect and personal responsibility : opportunities available, emotional resilience and high self-esteem versus internalized oppression, societal expectations or pressures that get in their way etc.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

First of all, just clarifying that I'm trying to say that "people are different but just as valuable" as opposed to "which group of people is better". ((I'm Not a racist! This is only for any Sean-minded individuals who happen to read this post)).

1.My view is that even if some people are different, their different strengths and weaknesses balance things overall and bring them to the same level.
- For example: One could stretch it and generalize and say that overall, a lot of germans are more conscientious, organized and more "thinking (as opposed to feeling -nothing to do with IQ) oriented" than some Southern Europeans or South Americans. On the other hand, some of the latter tend to be a bit more creativ. than the first.

2.And even if some people "make it" compared to others:
Are those characteristics that ensure their success only due to biology or socialization?
- At the level of nations: one looks back in time and sees that historically or geographically, some nations had more advantages compared to others.
- At an individual level you see so many things that might make a difference, besides intellect and personal responsibility : opportunities available, emotional resilience and high self-esteem versus internalized oppression, societal expectations or pressures that get in their way etc.

We praise and condemn diversity, we have a love/hate relationship with it. I'm a socio-biologist or evolutionary psychologist, as socio-biology is now called. Organisms exploit and adapt to their ecological niches. You wont find Pygmy's anywhere but one place in Africa. The Ik! are another tribe limited to a small area of Africa. They adapted to their ecology. Ecology and adaptation cause diversity. You cant get around it. A few miles from me is a place called the GREEN SWAMP, and in the swamp are species of Blue Jays and flowers that cannot survive outside the swamp. It is what it is. We cant explain the diversity away or make excuses for it.

I, for example, cant take common multi-vitamins, they paralyze me. My chemistry and the vitamins are antagonistic. No one, and no people are the same. We like it and we hate it.

 

[renard_ruse]

The Universe is God.

Liberals are tiny infinitesimal cosmic farts.

 

[Emerson40]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/b48db29a05365216d27f24da6afbef31/tumblr_o2m2kiHlRS1qapkmyo2_1280.png


SOURCE - Christian conservatives push child marriage with creepy meme comparing girls to apples

 

[ishtat]

My wife goes to church every Sunday. I never go as I have no use for churches or clergy. On the other hand I don't buy the idea that our universe and its order are happenstance. What we observe and experience isn't chaos.

Quantum mechanics seems to suggest otherwise Jim.

 

[Libsam]

Look folks, all religions are based off of astrological allegory.
It's what our ancient ancestors used to evolve from hunter-gatherer societies.

I don't know what pisses me off more, people who blindly follow religion or people who blindly hate religion.