UK people!

[Aella_]

What does eyer mean by "saniepoo"?

 

[putzpotus]

yeah, yur problem is TRUMP

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM3h3qTVAAECXS4.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

yeah, yur problem is TRUMP

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM3h3qTVAAECXS4.jpg

Your problem is Netanyahu, imposing anti-democratic policies in Jerusalem. You think some podunk imam is going to eliminate democracy in England, and you support someone who is actively squashing democracy city by city?

 

[Sean]

Your problem is Netanyahu, imposing anti-democratic policies in Jerusalem. You think some podunk imam is going to eliminate democracy in England, and you support someone who is actively squashing democracy city by city?

Anjem Choudary is on bail awaiting trial.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33784926
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/08/anjem-choudary-released-bail-surety-hitch

 

[Disgustipated]

Why in the world would you want to keep Donald Trump out of the UK? What possible threat does he pose to you?

The only threat is to keep the collective IQ from dropping to room temp. Same reason they don't want you.

 

[toubab]

The only threat is to keep the collective IQ from dropping to room temp. Same reason they don't want you.

I'm quite certain Donald Trump would raise the collective IQ of the UK should he set foot there, as would I. You, on the other hand, would undoubtedly lower it.

 

[Sean]

I'm quite certain Donald Trump would raise the collective IQ of the UK should he set foot there, as would I. You, on the other hand, would undoubtedly lower it.

2bob, you couldn't raise the collective IQ of a Petri dish.

 

[toubab]

2bob, you couldn't raise the collective IQ of a Petri dish.

As if you would have any idea.

 

[Sean]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

.....even in Canada......

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/donald-trump-tower-vancouver-ban-twitter-1.3355241

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

I'm quite certain Donald Trump would raise the collective IQ of the UK should he set foot there, as would I. You, on the other hand, would undoubtedly lower it.

Oh yes????

http://presidential-candidates.insi...23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes

 

[putzpotus]

“Britain is no longer a Christian country and should stop acting as if it is,” says judge http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/...nd-should-stop-acting-as-if-it-is-says-judge/ …

 

[trysail]

This is what the CO2-Klimate Krazies have done to the U.K.:

The UK has just destroyed its aluminium smelter and iron industry, plus much of its petrochemicals. And that is on top of destroying its car, motorcycle, white goods, mainframe computer, personal computer, exchange telephone, mobile telephone, coal, glass, nuclear power design, rockets, textile, textile looms, electronic, and machine tool industries. And destroyed all the subsidiary companies and service industries that depended on orders and trickle-down from those former multinational companies.

It is a wonder that anyone in the UK has a job....
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[oggbashan]

This is what the CO2-Klimate Krazies have done to the U.K.:


The UK has just destroyed its aluminium smelter and iron industry, plus much of its petrochemicals. And that is on top of destroying its car, motorcycle, white goods, mainframe computer, personal computer, exchange telephone, mobile telephone, coal, glass, nuclear power design, rockets, textile, textile looms, electronic, and machine tool industries. And destroyed all the subsidiary companies and service industries that depended on orders and trickle-down from those former multinational companies.

It is a wonder that anyone in the UK has a job....


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Source?

Aluminium and iron? Became uncompetitive compared with China's exports. Some of that is due to the UK's high energy costs but most was due to slackening in world demand. That is free trade for you.

Petrochemicals? The massive drop in the price of a barrel of oil has made much of the Petrochemical industry uneconomic. All three industries are threatened across the world, not just in the UK.

Car industry? We might not have British Leyland any more but the UK is still building more cars than British Leyland ever managed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33629296

Motorcycles? We still build and sell Triumph. The previous British motorcycle industry was destroyed by incompetent management unwilling to invest in new designs. British motorcycles were rightly seen as slow, unreliable, noisy and travelling oil leaks compared with Japanese designs.

White goods, mainframe computers, personal computers, telephones etc. - we couldn't compete with lower wage costs in China and SE Asia - free trade again. White goods are now far cheaper in real terms than they have ever been.

Coal? When imports can be delivered at less than the cost of production, deep coal mining is unprofitable.

I could go on. The effect is global capitalism at work. If it is cheaper to make something elsewhere, or the product is being dumped by a nation state, or the world demand slumps - the industry fails to be profitable in some countries.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[oggbashan]

Dyson mite disagree, as might vodaphone phone.

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Dyson?

Made abroad:

Production moves to Malaysia

Initially, Dyson vacuum cleaners and washing machines were made in Malmesbury, Wiltshire. In 2002, the company transferred vacuum cleaner production to Malaysia. Dyson stated that the company requested planning permission to expand the factory to increase vacuum cleaner production, but that this application failed. However, the local government says that no such permission was ever sought, as the land Dyson planned to use was privately owned and the original owner did not want to sell. The move is also spurred due to the most supplier are located in Far East and Dyson would want to get to them as close as possible as well as to be cost effective. Also, at the time of interview, James Dyson mentioned that the market is largest at New Zeland, Australia and Japan and potentially Far East market in near future, therefore the decision to shift production to Far East are also driven by needs to get closer to consumer base too. As Dyson was the major manufacturing company in Wiltshire outside Swindon, this move aroused some controversy as trade unionist claimed that this move will hit local economy hard.

In the following year, washing machine production was also moved to Malaysia. This moves are driven by production costs in Malaysia which are lower by 30% compared to UK,however it causes the loss of 65 jobs.

In 2004, the Meiban-Dyson Laundry Manufacturing Plant was launched in Johor, Malaysia. The newly opened RM 10 million (approx. $2.63 million) plant is a joint venture between Dyson and Singapore-based Meiban Group Ltd., which has manufacturing facilities in Singapore, Malaysia and China.

Dyson states that the cost savings from transferring production to Malaysia enabled investment in research & development at their Malmesbury head office.

In 2007 Dyson formed a partnership with the Malaysian electronic manufacturer VS Industry Bhd (VSI) for them to take on a major role in Dyson's supply chain, from raw material sourcing and production to distribution. VSI also undertook an extensive production plan to supply finished products to Dyson's destination markets around the globe (America, UK, Japan, etc.).

While it is often mentioned that Dyson has nearly 4,000 employees, Dyson has not publicly explained where those employees are actually located. However, it is known that VS Industry Bhd (VSI) currently has around 4,250 employees at their Malaysian facility which manufactures Dyson products, and in 2007 it was reported that Dyson alone was responsible for 80% of VS Industry Bhd (VSI) revenue.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_(company)

 

[oggbashan]

...

Coal production is such a contentious subject. Few loved working down mines, few wanted it for their children, until it was going. Yes, its been a huge and challenging way of life, but ...I think a lot of the objection is political and not about economics nor green issues. We have fields of solar constructions now, which give few jobs but clearer air. Putting them on rooves and maintaining seems the new ' driveway installation' in UK, and driveway installation is the new driveway installation, as so many of these old style ones contribute to flash floods.

New driveways have to comply with current legislation which means that water must soak through. Our driveway complies and only has water running off for a few minutes during a torrential rainfall. Within seconds of the rain easing, the driveway is puddle free.

BUT - any water that does run off enters a street drain 15 feet away. That drain empties 100 feet away onto the beach or into the sea, depending on the height of the tide. There is no possibility of my driveway contributing to flooding on land.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Sean]

Is Tryfail seriously trying to blame corporate off shoring on environmentalists? Thatcher must have been the greenest person ever, because she's the one that destroyed the coal and steel industries.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Everyone is a capitalist until someone else is willing to do their job for half the price.

 

[toubab]

Oh yes????

http://presidential-candidates.insi...23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes

Tess, anyone who doubts Donald Trump's intelligence is making a big mistake. He may be an arrogant, opinionated asshole, but he's far from stupid. He's actually highly intelligent, and very shrewd. Don't doubt me on this.

 

[oggbashan]

Yes, new driveways.

Not everyone lives near the sea though Ogg......I live near high flood risk areas...not in them, but near them. Its a sensible move IMO, the new drive /hardstanding legislation. We have ditches here, and recycle our grey water too. Its really interesting to see the difference in the weather. And attitude to water/ impact on others here compared to some other places.

Locally we had severe flooding in 2000. I watched water running in torrents across grassland that had been bone dry and compacted. What made it worse was one of the pumping stations for drainage failed when the water level reached the electrical systems.

Yesterday I had to drive through surface water caused by runoff from more compacted grassland. But the main problem was that the road drains were blocked by litter from the nearby fast food outlets. Once that litter was removed the road drained quickly.

Years ago when I had a secondhand bookshop it was across the road from two schools for children aged 5-11. Every week I picked up a black bin bag amount of litter dropped mainly by the parents. If I didn't, the local drains became blocked and flooded the road. If I had put the bin bag with my shop rubbish I would have been charged a commercial rate for it to be taken away - so I took it home and put it out with my house rubbish.

Even now I clear litter from the streets around my house. The sea road is cleaned daily. The road beside my house is cleaned every six weeks, or every two or three days by me. The majority of litter is from fast food.

We have friends in Lancashire. In the last three weeks their house has been flooded three times, the worst to a depth of nearly a metre. Before then the flood board across the front door been necessary only twice in twenty years and kept out all but a trickle that was easily mopped up. Their flood defences, planned for ten years, will be completed in 2018.

I used to work in a bookshop on the sea front in Deal, Kent. The building was 18th Century and could be flooded by storm tides. The front door had a flood board that slid into grooves but that could be overtopped. Immediately inside the door was a removable area of floor boards. That revealed a one foot drop down to the shingle bank on which the house/shop was built. Any water getting past the flood board flowed down the hole into the shingle and away. The building had been designed to cope with storms - 200 years ago.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[oggbashan]

Fast food litter is a blight. No one clears it ( but us) here. Only we live on our road, so why would anyone else clear it? The fly tipping we can encourage the council to collect every now and then. This is not so bad in uk, the fly tipping. We are miles from the nearest fast food place too. .

All people who own half a ditch...the council own the other side roadside, or ditches non road side, or whatever else takes surface water, stand the cost of keeping these running to keep floods not building up.

Ditches?

We have had a local debate between politicians and landowners running since 2000.

If the ditch or watercourse is kept clear and free-flowing, any runoff from heavy rain is quickly cleared from upstream BUT can cause flooding downstream because too much water arrives too quickly.

If the ditch or watercourse has obstructions such as fallen trees, or purpose built small dams that allow some water through but block a sudden increase, some of the water is kept back. That makes flooding downstream less likely until there is continuous heavy rain for many hours or some days.

The discussions continue. The real answer is:

"It depends on the individual watercourse. For some it is sensible to make them flow freely. For others it is better to hold back water for a time."

But the most significant factor locally is the tide. If heavy rain coincides with a high tide, the stream cannot empty into the sea, backs up, and causes flooding. Heavy rain and a low tide? No problem.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]