Anybody NOT want Trump to get the nomination?

I'm pretty sure the DNC are praying for him to win the GOP race.
 
I'm pretty sure the DNC are praying for him to win the GOP race.

I'm actually beginning to think Trump is doing this on purpose to screw the Republican party. Hillary was likely going to win, but with Trump on the ticket, the Republicans likely will lose some what were likely going to be close down ticket races, with the Democrats likely taking back the Senate because of it.

Seriously.
 
This both assumes that Clinton will get the nomination--the deck is very stacked in her favor but she's running a campaign that makes the 2008 one look competent, so she might cost herself another coronation--and that people would not vote for Trump in the general, which is a weird blend of cynicism and optimism.

I don't want Trump getting the GOP nomination. That idea scares me. Why?

First, people would vote for him in the general. Underestimating the stupidity of the American public is a dangerous thing.

Second, we forget that much of the country just does not vote and most of the country doesn't vote on a reliable basis. All Trump would need to win would be historic turnout among the kinds of people who hate immigrants, gays, and religious minorities--i.e. old people and rightwing lunatics--and traditional turnout from everyone else. And that is possible to achieve. And a person like Trump with the current SCOTUS--let alone one that leans even more to the right--and a Congress that is either exactly like this one or even more right-wing is a dreadful combination.
 
I dunno if "The Western Democracies get to feel superior," They certainly get to point and laugh......again.

Unless, by some fluke, he went on to win and then we'll all be in the shit.....AGAIN!

Woof!
 
I think the two that would have the most to lose from a Trump nomination would be the late unlamented Vettebigot and his faithful goosestepping companion Miles.

Both of them have made something of a cottage industry making excuses for failed Republican candidates. A Trump nomination (and subsequent defeat) would prevent them from invoking their favorite excuse "well everybody knows he wasn't conservative enough! Cuecuecue!"
 
I doubt that there would be a traditional turnout from everyone else, though. If it comes to it, Trump will have the whackjobs and Hillary will have everybody else.

That's the beauty of the two party system - you can vote against candidates as well as for them.

You're forgetting the VRA has been gutted, it successfully navigated the legal challenges, and Congress has done dick to remedy that due to being divided and then Republican. Suppressing turnout of all the other groups in key states this upcoming cycle will happen.
 
You're forgetting the VRA has been gutted, it successfully navigated the legal challenges, and Congress has done dick to remedy that due to being divided and then Republican. Suppressing turnout of all the other groups in key states this upcoming cycle will happen.

And Republicans have been singin' hosannas to their Lord Satan ever since....with the "bitter clinger" pissy white male demographic dying off at a rate of 2% each presidential election, "block the vote" initiatives are the only way they have left to hold on to political power.
 
I'm actually beginning to think Trump is doing this on purpose to screw the Republican party. Hillary was likely going to win, but with Trump on the ticket, the Republicans likely will lose some what were likely going to be close down ticket races, with the Democrats likely taking back the Senate because of it.

Seriously.

It would be funny to watch a Republican Senate race with Trump on the ticket. Some poor GOP politico who has paid his dues and raised his money, now has to not only run against a Democrat, he has to distance himself from his Party's candidate, if he wants a shred of the the Latino, black, or women's vote.
 
I'm actually beginning to think Trump is doing this on purpose to screw the Republican party. Hillary was likely going to win, but with Trump on the ticket, the Republicans likely will lose some what were likely going to be close down ticket races, with the Democrats likely taking back the Senate because of it.

Seriously.

Me, too. I've thought this for a while. Trump is this election's Perot. If he's the candidate, someone else will run third party. If he's not, he sounds like he's planning to run third party. They split the GOP vote and we elect Sanders or Clinton.
 
I haven't been following for the last few days but ,just trying to look up his poll numbers,it looks like those outrageous things he says only makes him more popular. I think people are looking for other rhetoric than standard party spew.

That being said I don't think he will get the nominations. I do think that he has brought something to the process and made other candidates have to admit just the same status quo isn't working.
 
Sorry to tell you

This both assumes that Clinton will get the nomination--the deck is very stacked in her favor but she's running a campaign that makes the 2008 one look competent, so she might cost herself another coronation--and that people would not vote for Trump in the general, which is a weird blend of cynicism and optimism.

I don't want Trump getting the GOP nomination. That idea scares me. Why?

First, people would vote for him in the general. Underestimating the stupidity of the American public is a dangerous thing.

Second, we forget that much of the country just does not vote and most of the country doesn't vote on a reliable basis. All Trump would need to win would be historic turnout among the kinds of people who hate immigrants, gays, and religious minorities--i.e. old people and rightwing lunatics--and traditional turnout from everyone else. And that is possible to achieve. And a person like Trump with the current SCOTUS--let alone one that leans even more to the right--and a Congress that is either exactly like this one or even more right-wing is a dreadful combination.

But not all "old people" are part of the 'Party of Hate' that the rethuglicans have become.

Some of us "old people" actually THINK. And when we do, we realize that Mr Trump has a disease. It's a disease that's been around for a long time. It's called the Foot in Mouth disease. Every time a thought goes through his head, it seems to end up coming out of his mouth.

Imagine how that would work for International Relations.
 
It's giant fatwa on the USA by the entire radical Muslim world with Trump as its unwitting weapon........and it's working. They must be laughing watching the show.
 
I'm actually beginning to think Trump is doing this on purpose to screw the Republican party. Hillary was likely going to win, but with Trump on the ticket, the Republicans likely will lose some what were likely going to be close down ticket races, with the Democrats likely taking back the Senate because of it.

Seriously.


If you follow his money, he has contributed buckets to the democratic party in the past. It baffled me when I learned he was running as a republican.
 
I doubt that there would be a traditional turnout from everyone else, though. If it comes to it, Trump will have the whackjobs and Hillary will have everybody else.

That's the beauty of the two party system - you can vote against candidates as well as for them.
What will happen is a less insane GOP candidate will also run, splitting the vote.

It'll be H Ross Perot all over again.

And Bill Clinton will become the first living President to turn right around and become the First Husband and God will laugh for all of eternity at Satan as hell's elderly GOP minions die of heart attacks all across geriatric Florida

costing the GOP a critical territory for all future Presidential elections

and possibly also turning Texas blue from all the old fucks who will croak over there, too.
 
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