Climate Justice?????

[Ishmael]

Here we go again. Yet another attempt on the part of the UN to become an unelected worold taxation authority and agent of redistribution. Sadly it appears that the Obama administration is all for it.

UN Taxation


This is the draft document; Taxation in the name of "Climate Change."


Of course the UN would be the arbiter of who pays how much and who gets how much under this agreement with the UN siphoning off "Administrative Fees." Judging by their past behavior those "Administrative Fees" could go as high as 80%.

Ishmael

 

[Sean]

Funny, Wing Nut Daily doesn't mention the first option:

Option 1: A [process] [[compliance] mechanism][Committee][, including a Committee [as a standing subsidiary
body under the CMA] is hereby established to [promote compliance by developed countries Parties and facilitate
implementation by developing country Parties through provision of adequate financial resource and transfer of
technology][promote and] facilitate [effective] implementation of [Articles [3] and [9] of this Agreement and to
assess and address questions of implementation arising from each Party’s performance in accordance with these
provisions.][[and] promote [and enforce] compliance with] [the provisions of][commitments under] this Agreement.
The [Committee][process][mechanism] [,including the committee,] shall be [expert based,] [facilitative] [in nature]
[and shall act in a manner that is transparent], [non-punitive], [non-adversarial[ and [non-judicial] [and shall pay
particular attention to the respective national capabilities and circumstances of Parties]. [The members of the
Committee shall serve in their individual capacity.]

 

[DSpeeGal]

did you read what Putin said?

the LAST sane leader left in the world

 

[RobDownSouth]

Funny, Wing Nut Daily doesn't mention the first option:

Option 1: A [process] [[compliance] mechanism][Committee][, including a Committee [as a standing subsidiary
body under the CMA] is hereby established to [promote compliance by developed countries Parties and facilitate
implementation by developing country Parties through provision of adequate financial resource and transfer of
technology][promote and] facilitate [effective] implementation of [Articles [3] and [9] of this Agreement and to
assess and address questions of implementation arising from each Party’s performance in accordance with these
provisions.][[and] promote [and enforce] compliance with] [the provisions of][commitments under] this Agreement.
The [Committee][process][mechanism] [,including the committee,] shall be [expert based,] [facilitative] [in nature]
[and shall act in a manner that is transparent], [non-punitive], [non-adversarial[ and [non-judicial] [and shall pay
particular attention to the respective national capabilities and circumstances of Parties]. [The members of the
Committee shall serve in their individual capacity.]

Ishmael's WND article is a rewrite of a CFACT press release.
CFACT is an Exxon-funded think tank promoting a specious "Global Warming is nothing but carbon dioxide, and carbon dioxide is good for plants!" philosophy.

 

[Sean]

Ishmael's WND article is a rewrite of a CFACT press release.
CFACT is an Exxon-funded think tank promoting a specious "Global Warming is nothing but carbon dioxide, and carbon dioxide is good for plants!" philosophy.

My default position is that anyone that uses WND as a source is either a moron or a cunt. Ishtard, of course, being both.

 

[thør]

Ishmael's WND article is a rewrite of a CFACT press release.
CFACT is an Exxon-funded think tank promoting a specious "Global Warming is nothing but carbon dioxide, and carbon dioxide is good for plants!" philosophy.

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/11/01/meyers-field-edit2_wide-458da5ca986df9179a7f60ff8ed30445d2c26baa.jpg?s=6

Rising Temperatures Kick-Start Subarctic Farming In Alaska

 

[Ishmael]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/11/01/meyers-field-edit2_wide-458da5ca986df9179a7f60ff8ed30445d2c26baa.jpg?s=6

Rising Temperatures Kick-Start Subarctic Farming In Alaska

I see shit for brains is, as usual, attacking the source....not the substance.

Ishmael

 

[Disgustipated]

I see shit for brains is, as usual, attacking the source....not the substance.

Ishmael

When the substance and the source are both suspect, that tends to happen.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I see shit for brains is, as usual, attacking the source....not the substance.

Ishmael

Such victimhood. *shakes head* poor you.

You fobbed off an overwrought doomsday editorial on us and hoped we wouldn't check the source documents. We did, though, and you look stupid once again.

Own your shame.

 

[Libsam]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/11/01/meyers-field-edit2_wide-458da5ca986df9179a7f60ff8ed30445d2c26baa.jpg?s=6

Rising Temperatures Kick-Start Subarctic Farming In Alaska

Well, look at that.
Global scale crop rotation.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Central Canada is poised to become the bread basket for the world!

 

[DSpeeGal]

It’s Come To This: Climate Change Deemed Sexist….

Figueres

Suspicions confirmed.

Via Independent:

A new obstacle has emerged in the battle for female equality – in the form of climate change. Global warming will inflict far more suffering on women than men because they are more vulnerable to the floods, droughts and diseases that are expected to increase as the climate changes, leading academics have warned.

Climate change’s gender discrimination will be far more pronounced in those swathes of the poorer, developing world where sexual inequality is typically much greater, where the effects of global warming will be more extreme, and where less money is available to protect against the consequences, they said.

Women in poorer countries tend to be more vulnerable because, when disaster strikes, sexist social structures mean they are far more likely to be in the home cooking, cleaning or looking after others, putting them at greater risk from collapsing buildings.

But that is just one of many reasons why women tend to suffer disproportionately in natural disasters in the developing world. The research suggests that women could be considered more vulnerable in severe storms because they are less likely to have been taught to swim in poorer countries, as well as being more unlikely to own a mobile phone which could be used to call for help.

In the most extreme cases of disasters in patriarchal societies, women may be unable to leave the house without a male companion or their movement can even be hampered by long clothing, experts said.

 

[DSpeeGal]

Richest Man in the World: ‘Representative Democracy Is a Problem.


From the first Morning Jolt of the week


: Richest Man in the World: “Representative Democracy Is a Problem.” Bill Gates is rapidly reaching supervillain status. When I sat down to hear his case a few weeks ago, he didn’t evince much patience for the argument that American politicians couldn’t agree even on whether climate change is real, much less on how to combat it. “If you’re not bringing math skills to the problem,” he said with a sort of amused asperity, “then representative democracy is a problem.”

What follows is a condensed transcript of his remarks, lightly edited for clarity. I see Gates is now complaining about capitalism. What, does he think he got a raw deal? Well, there’s no fortune to be made. Even if you have a new energy source that costs the same as today’s and emits no CO2, it will be uncertain compared with what’s tried-and-true and already operating at unbelievable scale and has gotten through all the regulatory problems, like “Okay, what do you do with coal ash?” and “How do you guarantee something is safe?”

Without a substantial carbon tax, there’s no incentive for innovators or plant buyers to switch. And for energy as a whole, the incentive to invest is quite limited, because unlike digital products — where you get very rapid adoption and so, within the period that your trade secret stays secret or your patent gives you a 20-year exclusive, you can reap incredible returns — almost everything that’s been invented in energy was invented more than 20 years before it got scaled usage. So if you go back to various energy innovators, actually, they didn’t do that well financially.

The rewards to society of these energy advances — not much of that is captured by the individual innovator, because it’s a very conservative market. So the R&D amount in energy is surprisingly low compared with medicine or digital stuff, where both the government spending and the private-sector spending is huge. Has there ever been a bigger, better case of, “I’ve got mine, now you can’t get yours?”


You noticed Mr. “We’ve-got-to-do-something-about-climate-change-and-carbon-emissions” still has a giant private jet that can carry 19 people, right?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...representative-democracy-problem-jim-geraghty

 

[thør]

Well, look at that.
Global scale crop rotation.

That barren ground out there is tundra overlaying 400' of permafrost.

 

[Ishmael]

Same subject, different publication.

Circumvention of Congress?

We can have discussions re. "Climate Change", it's causes and what, if anything, can be done about it.

But I have to seriously wonder about a citizen that would purposely cede national sovereignty to an essentially corrupt organization. That would willingly surrender the power of taxation to a group of unelected foreigners who have a record of skimming off exorbitant percentage of the monies as an 'administrative' fee. People that think it's perfectly fine for the US taxpayer to become a piggy-bank for a global welfare scheme.

Ishmael

 

[FGB]

I doesn't really matter if they put the first chain on one of the wrist or one of the ankles...or what it is in the name of.

 

[Que]

The idea of the UN getting involved in climate change as a transfer of wealth scheme is not incidental opportunism. The entire idea behind the concept of identifying unique characteristics of wealthy and necessarily industrialized nations (energy consumption) and taxing it to give to the "less fortunate" was the goal.

Carbon just conveniently was something measurable to accomplish that.

Just as when electric cars start eating into gasoline tax revenues alternate schemes are proposed, if the wealthiest countries all went primarily nuclear, there would be very little carbon emitted. The taxing authority created would find something else to use for their extortion.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Birchers have been pushing the "Skeery United Nations" meme since the 1960s.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Dear Leader rendered Congress irrelevant when he "negotiated" his Iran deal.

The first thing he did was to seek UN ratification so that the Congress could not undo it.

Now Iran has all the freedom to do whatever it wants and is refusing to abide by the terms of the "treaty" because its parliament refused to ratify it.

It will be the same on guns if we continue to elect National Democratic Socialists to power.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The idea of the UN getting involved in climate change as a transfer of wealth scheme is not incidental opportunism. The entire idea behind the concept of identifying unique characteristics of wealthy and necessarily industrialized nations (energy consumption) and taxing it to give to the "less fortunate" was the goal.

Carbon just conveniently was something measurable to accomplish that.

Just as when electric cars start eating into gasoline tax revenues alternate schemes are proposed, if the wealthiest countries all went primarily nuclear, there would be very little carbon emitted. The taxing authority created would find something else to use for their extortion.

This is also, like most government regulation, a protection racket. Only the advanced countries can manage the cost of compliance and it bars developing countries from continuing to develop.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

This is also, like most government regulation, a protection racket. Only the advanced countries can manage the cost of compliance and it bars developing countries from continuing to develop.

Protection racket. Hmmmm. By golly youre on to something. The interesting twist to the NEW SOCIALISM is: The GOP and WALMART and MICROSOFT are all aboard for the regulation and taxes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Protection racket. Hmmmm. By golly youre on to something. The interesting twist to the NEW SOCIALISM is: The GOP and WALMART and MICROSOFT are all aboard for the regulation and taxes.

Of course they are. They already have compliance department costs written into their pricing.

The ironic thing is that Microsoft did not play that game until Bill Clinton did the Al Sharpton shakedown on them and now they are all lobbied up like nobody else's business.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Note: The peasants never start revolutions. Revolutions start when the elites begin to eat their own. Peasants never push back, lowly counts and knights push back.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Note: The peasants never start revolutions. Revolutions start when the elites begin to eat their own. Peasants never push back, lowly counts and knights push back.

Disagree as per "The Anatomy of Revolution."

The top have no incentive to revolt, they control and benefit.

The poor are too busy struggling and have no energy or appetite to become "noticed."

It is the middle class (and it is easily argued, the bored sons and daughters of the middle class), who revolt when they sense that the avenue of upward mobility has been denied to them by the ruling class.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Of course they are. They already have compliance department costs written into their pricing.

The ironic thing is that Microsoft did not play that game until Bill Clinton did the Al Sharpton shakedown on them and now they are all lobbied up like nobody else's business.

I hear Hillary and Sharpton are the moderators for the MSNBC GOP debate.

Youre right again. Historically what happens next is smuggling and bootlegging and black markets.