US Perceptions of the UK and vice versa

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The following message appeared on my facebook page yesterday and it seems like a good topic for discussion. I've never been to the USA so I can't comment on things there. But I'm sure some UK authors have been there and some US authors have been here. So this is an opportunity to share the differences.

Facebook posting

I was in England again a few weeks ago, mostly in small towns, but here's some of what I learned:
* Almost everyone is very polite
* The food is generally outstanding
* There are no guns
* There are too many narrow stairs
* Everything is just a little bit different
* The pubs close too early
* Pubs are not bars, they are community living rooms.
* You'd better like peas, potatoes and sausage
* Refrigerators and washing machines are very small
* Everything is generally older, smaller and shorter
* There are very well behaved dogs everywhere
* People don't seem to be afraid of their neighbors or the government
* Their paper money makes sense, the coins don't
* Everyone has a washing machine but driers are rare
* The reason they drive on the left is because all their cars are built backwards
* Hot and cold water faucets. Remember them?
* Pants are called "trousers", underwear are "pants" and sweaters are "jumpers"
* The bathroom light is a string hanging from the ceiling
* "Fanny" is a naughty word, as is "shag"
* All the signs are well designed with beautiful typography and written in full sentences with proper grammar.
* There's no dress code
* Doors close by themselves, but they don't always open
* They eat with their forks upside down
* English are as crazy about their gardens as Americans are about cars
* They don't use facecloths or napkins
* The wall outlets all have switches, some don't do anything.
* There are hardly any cops or police cars.
• There are 5,000 year old rocks still standing around. No one is sure why
* When you do see police they seem to be in male & female pairs and often smiling
* Black people are just people: they didn't quite do slavery here
* Everything comes with chips, which are French fries. You put vinegar on them
* Cookies are "biscuits" and potato chips are "crisps"
* HP sauce is better then catsup
* Obama is considered a hero, Bush is considered an idiot.
* After fish and chips, curry is the most popular food
* The water controls in showers need detailed instructions
* Folks don't always lock their bikes
* It's completely normal to see people dressing different and speaking different languages
* Electronic devices work fine with just a plug adapter.
* Nearly everyone is better educated then we are
* If someone buys you a drink you must do the same.
* There are no guns
* Look right, walk left
* It's not that hard to eat with the fork in your left hand with a little practice. If you don't, everyone knows you're an American
* Many of the roads are the size of our sidewalks
* There's no AC.
* Instead of turning the heat up, you put on a jumper
* Gas is "petrol", it costs about $7 a gallon and is sold by the liter
* If you speed on a motorway, you get a ticket. Always.
* You don't have to tip, really!
* Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Cornwall really are different countries
* Everyone here has a passport, only 14% of Americans do.
* You pay the price marked on products because the taxes (VAT) are built in.
* Walking is the national pastime
* Their TV looks and sounds much better then ours
* They took the street signs down during WWII but haven't put them all back up yet.
* Everyone enjoys a good joke
* There are no guns
* Dogs are very well behaved and welcome everywhere
* There are no window screens
* You can get on a bus and end up in Paris.
* Everyone knows more about our history then we do
* Radio is still a big deal. The BBC is quite good
* The newspapers can be awful
* Everything costs the same but our money is worth less so you have to add 50% to the price to figure what you're paying
* Beer comes in large, completely filled, actual pint glasses and the closer the brewery the better the beer
* Butter and eggs aren't refrigerated
* The beer isn't warm, each style is served at the proper temperature
* Cider (alcoholic) is quite good.
* Excess cider consumption can be very painful.
* The universal greeting is "Cheers" (pronounced "cheeahz" unless you are from Cornwall, then it's "chairz")
* The money is easy to understand: 1-2-5-10-20-50 pence, then-£1-£2-£5-£10, etc bills. There are no quarters.
* Their cash makes ours look like Monopoly money.
* Cars don't have bumper stickers
* Many doorknobs, buildings and tools are older than America
* By law, there are no crappy, old cars
* When the sign says something was built in 456, they didn't lose the "1"
Cake is is pudding, ice cream is pudding, anything served for desert is pudding, even pudding.
* BBC 4 is NPR
* Everything closes at 1700 (5pm)
* Very few people smoke
* You're defined by your accent
* No one in Cornwall knows what a Cornish Game Hen is
* Soccer is a religion, religion is a sport
* Europeans dress better then the British, we dress worse
* The trains work: a three minute delay is regrettable
• Drinks don't come with ice
* There are far fewer fat English people
* There are a lot of healthy old folks wandering around participating in life instead of hiding at home watching tv.
* If you're over 60 and English, you get free bus, rail travel and tv.
* Displaying your political or religious affiliation is considered very bad taste
* Every pub has a pet drunk
* Their healthcare works, but they still bitch about it.
* Cake is one of the major food groups.
* Their coffee is mediocre but their tea is wonderful.
* There are still no guns
* Towel warmers!
* Cheers
 
Interesting list. :) I've often wondered about pubs, and appreciate the gun ban.

When I moved to Chicago from Texas some years back, it was hard to accept that AC was considered optional in the housing market. Even though Chicago winters last a long time, the summers there could be brutal. I miss Chicago, but not the attitude on AC.
 
Wonderful.
And mostly correct.

A free TV licence is not issued until you are 75.

* Pubs are not bars, they are community living rooms.

Except in some old city pubs where there's the Bar and the Lounge, which tends
to be better lit and decorated.
The Public Bar is best thought of as based upon the garden shed (it was a quick stop-off for a worker on his way home)

Clothes Driers?
"Posh" houses may have the space for a drier, but it ain't common.

* The reason they drive on the left is because all their cars are built backwards
No, it's because the c 18th gentry insisted on which horse the groom rode.

• There are 5,000 year old rocks still standing around. No one is sure why
'Cos' we have no valid reason to dig them up, o' course.

* Everything comes with chips, which are French fries. You put vinegar on them
Salt, yes. Put vinegar on my chips and you're in bother!
You put the vinegar on the FISH !

They don't use facecloths or napkins
The facecloth is located in the Bathroom.
Napkins are for when Aunt Dora comes to tea. They generally rot, unused, in the sideboard.

* The wall outlets all have switches, some don't do anything.
Some may actually be a "secure storage point" for small items.

* HP sauce is better then catsup
It certainly was, right up to the time that the new owners of the brand moved the making to Holland.
We generally do not understand "catsup". Is this a 'Veterinary' thing, perhaps?

* Obama is considered a hero, Bush is considered an idiot.
Reagan wasn't a deal better, as I recall.

* The water controls in showers need detailed instructions
Strewth, Bruce, what's wrong with volume and temperature ?
In practice, many homes have electric showers and these have one knob.
If you're having trouble with just one, you really need help.

* They took the street signs down during WWII but haven't put them all back up yet.
Sad, but true, particularly in the more Rural parts.
You can never be quite sure when a Nazi paratrooper will appear.

* Their coffee is mediocre but their tea is wonderful.
This may depend upon where you get it.
Starbucks (and similar organisations) manage to rip a customer off with consummate ease with a bewildering array of pseudo-itallian words presumably meaning "coffee".

:):)
 
That list! Some American 'got' the old country pretty accurately!

The repeated refrain about 'no guns' is significant, as are the comments about race, language and dress.

The bus to Paris? Train is better.

I can't do a list on the basis of my five days in New York. But those days, and my American and Canadian Lit friends, pull out a lot of love in me for the other side of the Pond.
 
Wonderful.
And mostly correct.

* The reason they drive on the left is because all their cars are built backwards
No, it's because the c 18th gentry insisted on which horse the groom rode.

I thought it was down to medieval knights jousting, or having their sword hand on the same side as the enemy, with the sword further away? Napoleon changed it.

* Everything comes with chips, which are French fries. You put vinegar on them
Salt, yes. Put vinegar on my chips and you're in bother!
You put the vinegar on the FISH !

NOOOOOO!!!

Malt vinegar is compulsory on chips.

And fries aren't chips. Fries are skinny little things, chips are proper chunks of fried potatoey goodness.

Dear me, you'll be saying the cheese should go under the beans next. :rolleyes:


They don't use facecloths or napkins
The facecloth is located in the Bathroom.
Napkins are for when Aunt Dora comes to tea. They generally rot, unused, in the sideboard.

It's rare that I don't use a napkin when sitting at the table. There's nothing like having a proper linen napkin across your nap for a posh meal.

* The water controls in showers need detailed instructions
Strewth, Bruce, what's wrong with volume and temperature ?
In practice, many homes have electric showers and these have one knob.
If you're having trouble with just one, you really need help.

:):)

I have to confess, more than once I've had to ask the houseowners or call down to the hotel reception to find out how the shower works. :eek:

And I've had people staying with me who've appeared towel-wrapped and red-faced needing shower operation instructions.:rolleyes:
 
I thought it was down to medieval knights jousting, or having their sword hand on the same side as the enemy, with the sword further away? Napoleon changed it.

...

Of course it wasn't knights. It was so we could shake right hands when we met a friend on the road.

Or because that's the way the Romans did it. We wouldn't follow any suggestion made by the French.
 
I've always wondered, but never asked, why the English hide the toilet tank (reservoir) behind the wall.
 
Everyone has a passport?

Of course we do. How else would we go on Stag Parties in Prague; drinking bouts in Malaguf; and how else could I take my wife for an evening meal in a restaurant in France?
 
I've always wondered, but never asked, why the English hide the toilet tank (reservoir) behind the wall.

"Cistern". We don't hide them in our houses. Public loos? - less hassle for cleaners I guess.

Never knew Americans loved seeing toilet tanks / reservoirs.
In fact I thought they never uttered the word "toilet". There you go, I'm learning!
 
"Cistern". We don't hide them in our houses. Public loos? - less hassle for cleaners I guess.

Never knew Americans loved seeing toilet tanks / reservoirs.
In fact I thought they never uttered the word "toilet". There you go, I'm learning!

I don't think the Yanks love their toilet tanks; they're just used to seeing them. Wondered if tucking them behind the walls was some sort of prudery, like putting skirts on furniture legs.

Americans, I can attest, utter many words, "toilet" among them. "Loo," however, is rarely heard. ¿Dondé esta el sanitario?
 
Having moved frequently back and forth (including in former British colonies), the list pretty much looked right to me.

It reminds me of a sign planted in the sidewalk just outside the consulate of the American Embassy in Bangkok: Look the Other Way for Approaching Traffic!
 
Hi, I'm new to the boards, but I read your UK list this morning, and it made me smile. I'm American, born and raised, and I don't think my country has our shit together, but we do have some good things going, but it's hidden behind our sudden need to make every goddamned thing we do and say political.
I've traveled to Ethiopia, Austria, Germany (top and the lovely bottom that is Bavaria), France and Denmark. EU several times. The closest I've gotten to the UK is two layovers at Heathrow. (I figured the peas thing out immediately.)

As an open minded American who travels, I can say yes, please, build my freaking toilet bowl into the wall. Hide it. Please. I loved that about Germany. (Though Reykjavik's airport has the best bathrooms I've ever been to.)

I also love that your markets aren't 95% sugar filled processed crap.

I won't get into politics because I'm in a fantastic mood and the mess we're in as a nation will destroy my day.

Have you seen this? My husband showed it to me and we thought it was amusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDqayC1sR7g
 
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I don't think the Yanks love their toilet tanks; they're just used to seeing them. Wondered if tucking them behind the walls was some sort of prudery, like putting skirts on furniture legs.

Americans, I can attest, utter many words, "toilet" among them. "Loo," however, is rarely heard. ¿Dondé esta el sanitario?

I honestly think it might have to do with building code, or our contractors not ever having left the States...ever.

We say toilet, john, bowl, and even loo, but usually because we think it's cute.

Go to some really um interesting areas of the states and people will call it the can, or the shitter. That's always nice. Charming
 
Of course it wasn't knights. It was so we could shake right hands when we met a friend on the road.

Or because that's the way the Romans did it. We wouldn't follow any suggestion made by the French.

Definitely the Romans. Their swords were on the left, so they could be drawn with the right hand. Legions passing on the road had to keep to the left, to avoid their swords becoming entangled. When Napolean rampaged across Europe he forced every country he conquered to drive on the right.

One thing missing from the list is that even public buildings in the UK do not fly the national flag except on special days, like the Queen's birthday. Like I said I've never been to the USA but people who have, tell me that the stars and stripes are everywhere even being flown in people's gardens.
 
Definitely the Romans. Their swords were on the left, so they could be drawn with the right hand. Legions passing on the road had to keep to the left, to avoid their swords becoming entangled. When Napolean rampaged across Europe he forced every country he conquered to drive on the right.

One thing missing from the list is that even public buildings in the UK do not fly the national flag except on special days, like the Queen's birthday. Like I said I've never been to the USA but people who have, tell me that the stars and stripes are everywhere even being flown in people's gardens.

I don't know what it's like round your way, but the flying of a National Flag has been known to cause all manner of fluttering in the dovecotes.
The English flag (St George) flies proudly on out local church steeple.
Some local councils, aware of the kerfuffle, have said"NO" to flags thus causing
all manner of angry muttering and even shifts of political allegiance.
 
Flags in the UK

The UK, except for people becoming British Citizens, does not have a pledge of allegiance.

We don't expect schools to fly or display the Union Jack/Flag, nor do we expect it to be displayed in public servants' offices.

At present there are more flags flying than normal because of the Rugby World Cup, but no one minds if your neighbour is flying the Welsh Dragon, an Australian or South African flag.

Opposite my house, on the beach, is a line of beach huts. On any sunny weekend many of them will have flags. But what a mixture - Help the Heroes; Kent County; St George; Welsh Dragon; Scottish Saltire; French Tricolor; Skull and Cross Bones labelled 'Ahoy Matey, Where's The Rum?'; Nato; United Nations; EU; and a pair of large women's panties...

In Ulster/Northern Ireland flags are a very serious matter indeed. Flying or not flying a flag, and which flag, can cause rioting and has caused deaths.

In England we don't care. A flag is just a coloured piece of cloth.
 
* Their coffee is mediocre but their tea is wonderful.
My God, that American was lucky. I find it nearly impossible to get a good cup of tea unless I go to my local cocktail bar! where for some reason known to themselves, they serve Iron Goddess of Mercy.

In England we don't care. A flag is just a coloured piece of cloth.

Unless it's a Tom Jones concert and they are your knickers ...
;)
 
Hey HP...why don't you share what the Pentagon thought were the differences between the UK and the USA back in 1943...or at least what they thought our boys needed to know before we dropped them off to you to help fight Hitler.

Rumor has it you have an interesting booklet from back then. ;)

:D

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Hey HP...why don't you share what the Pentagon thought were the differences between the UK and the USA back in 1943...or at least what they thought our boys needed to know before we dropped them off to you to help fight Hitler.

Rumor has it you have an interesting booklet from back then. ;)

:D

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Now that's an idea . . . .
 
I spent a month in the London area, mainly Woking and Guildford. The hotel I stayed in was in Guildford and the office was in Woking. The company I worked for at the time had purchased the company in Woking. I went there with five others from our Atlanta office to get them setup and train them on the software we developed and sold.

For the most part is was enjoyable, except for my arrival. Frozen fog they said. Diverted to New Castle. Long, long train ride into London. Switch trains, to get to Gatwick to pick up the rental car. Then a drive over to Guildford to the hotel. Police stopped me on the motorway twice. First time driving on the wrong side of the road, they thought I was...pissed.

After that, got better driving on the wrong side of the road.

Roundabouts? WTF? There are little ones, no more than a bump in the road and there are huge, miles wide ones that require six or seven traffic signals to negotiate. 'nough said.

The hotel we stayed at was an Americanized hotel. The menus, the rooms were all targeted to people from the U.S.

All in all not a bad experience, except for no sunlight! The sun peeked through the clouds once during my stay. Once. September, October...this time of year is when I was there.

Had fun.

Most of the people I trained eventually, came over to the states to work and live. Some became U.S. citizens or married citizens. Some returned to the UK when there work visas expired. Others went to Canada or scattered to the four winds.
 
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I spent my formative years, from eight years old to seventeen in a British Colony, going to Brit schools. About 75 percent of the kids there were British. I can remember my Dad saying it wasn't hard to drive on the left side, you just kept the driver's side next to the centre line. But one of the men in his office drove a motor-cycle and had problems. We came back to the states for vacation in the summers and I always had a hard time crossing streets because I looked the wrong way.

I never developed a taste for coffee. Horrible bitter nasty stuff, but it does smell good. I would much rather have a nice cup of Lapsang souchong, in the evenings a dollop of scotch blends into it perfectly.

Oh, I quickly learned never to call a Scot "English".

In the Army I spent the better part of three years in Germany. AC wasn't needed as the summers had cooler nights than Texas winters. The beer wasn't chilled, but with the ambient temperature fairly low you could hardly call it warm. I assume it's the same in Britain.
 
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