School and phones.

[Not Normal]

If the school had confiscated my kids phone I would have been seriously pissed..... I lived quite some distance away and would not have been able to drop everything to come to the school and get it.

Then you should teach your kids to obey the school's rules...

 

[BiTodd]

What I'm saying is that this policy will get a teacher hurt. Well here anyways .

I never understood kids that got upset when they got punished for something they did wrong and knew the consequences. It is like they chose to roll the dice and got caught and instead of blaming themselves and taking their licks they get mad at the person inforcing the rules.
I believe these kid's parents are even bigger examples of this fundamental character flaw. And people probably will get hurt dealing with that kinda person.

 

[ElijaRDC]

What I'm saying is that this policy will get a teacher hurt. Well here anyways .

If that's the case, there are higher authorities than a school administration.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The local school system policy is that if a student disrupts a class with his/her phone it is taken away for the day and the parent has to show up to retrieve the phone. Second offense, a week. Third offense for the rest of the school year.

So you parents out there;

Do you send your kid(s) to schools with phones.........and why?

What do you think of the districts policy?

Ishmael

Yes. She has a driver's license. She got in trouble on day one when another kid ratted her out to the teacher and she has since followed all of the rules. We have hectic schedules and it is nice to have the flexibility to by able to make changes on the fly by text. It's a wonderful tool since you can answer a text at your own time.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I never understood kids that got upset when they got punished for something they did wrong and knew the consequences. It is like they chose to roll the dice and got caught and instead of blaming themselves and taking their licks they get mad at the person inforcing the rules.
I believe these kid's parents are even bigger examples of this fundamental character flaw. And people probably will get hurt dealing with that kinda person.

It's because they are at the same mental and emotional level as most Liberals. Thankfully, a small percentage of them continue to develop mentally and emotionally.

 

[girlsmiley]

I'll relate a similar issue of class disruption......
In my youngest sons final year, they had a special needs student.
This student continuously yelled, hit and bit other students as well as the teacher.
Because of our stupid 'integration' rules, this kid could not be removed from the class or school.
Due to understaffing, the school assigned 2 fellow students to 'distract' him, one of whom was my son.
After a week of this, my kidlet came home and announced that he was quitting school as he wasn't actually learning anything anyway.
When I approached the school about it they told me I was being discriminatory because I agreed with my son!

Because of the lack of facilities, and the belief that children with special needs are entitled to an equal educational experience, this sort of disruption is now very common in many mainstream schools across Australia (currently a couple of schools are going thro criminal investigations because of restraining particularly aggressive autistic students).

Tbh - I would rather my son have been allowed to use his phone in class, or been disrupted by other phones.

Hold on one sec.

Our stupid integration rules?

What the hell is wrong with you woman?

Some children are disabled. You are fucking lucky you don't have a child with a mental disability. In fact, the disabled child is lucky to not have a mother like you.

Shame. Shame on you.

Lack of facilities, I agree with. But thinking children who have a disability are disrupting the class? Do fuck off. If anything the kids are learning to be open minded and caring of kids who are a little bit special.

Seriously.

 

[warrior queen]

Hold on one sec.

Our stupid integration rules?

What the hell is wrong with you woman?

Some children are disabled. You are fucking lucky you don't have a child with a mental disability. In fact, the disabled child is lucky to not have a mother like you.

Shame. Shame on you.

Lack of facilities, I agree with. But thinking children who have a disability are disrupting the class? Do fuck off. If anything the kids are learning to be open minded and caring of kids who are a little bit special.

Seriously.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.....
I have no issue with special needs kids in mainstream schools IF THE FACILITIES TO HANDLE THEIR NEEDS ARE IN PLACE.
If they aren't, such as is the case in a huge number of schools, and the teachers expect other kids (who do NOT have the knowledge) to handle them,then I absolutely do not agree with it.
Clearer?
Every day that week, my son came home with scratches and bites that broke the skin.
Totally UNacceptable.

 

[girlsmiley]

You know... I see kids every fucking day. In wheelchairs. Stumps for arms and legs. Heads lopped to the side and drool coming out of their little mouths. Bald even though they're 10. And I don't stare and I don't cry. They're my little mates. Feral kids laugh at them because they think it's ok and it's ok behaviour. It's not ok. And if my daughter were to see some prick of a kid picking on a disabled child -verbally or physically- I have my fingers crossed she will kick their fucking ass and tell me later. Or not tell me. Because assholes like that aren't even worth the conversation.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Children do childish things for a reason.



They're not adults yet, and somehow, we are convinced that we can "turn" them.

The ones we cannot mold, we call names like feral in order to explain the failings of our utopian dreams...

 

[Lancecastor]

Syrian refugee kids all seem to have smart phones.

They must have an excellent plan.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're getting a lot of them up in your neck of the woods?

 

[girlsmiley]

Children do childish things for a reason.



They're not adults yet, and somehow, we are convinced that we can "turn" them.

The ones we cannot mold, we call names like feral in order to explain the failings of our utopian dreams...

Since when did cannot mold equal feral?

Oh that's right. Never.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You know... I see kids every fucking day. In wheelchairs. Stumps for arms and legs. Heads lopped to the side and drool coming out of their little mouths. Bald even though they're 10. And I don't stare and I don't cry. They're my little mates. Feral kids laugh at them because they think it's ok and it's ok behaviour. It's not ok. And if my daughter were to see some prick of a kid picking on a disabled child -verbally or physically- I have my fingers crossed she will kick their fucking ass and tell me later. Or not tell me. Because assholes like that aren't even worth the conversation.

Since when did cannot mold equal feral?

Oh that's right. Never.

Non-feral kids, of course, never laugh at them.

:nods:

 

[Lancecastor]

You're getting a lot of them up in your neck of the woods?

I am talking about the ones on the news. Watch for it... It's a non-sequitur.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Advocating child violence on top of it?


Who's the feral in this story?


Them, or you?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I am talking about the ones on the news. Watch for it... It's a non-sequitur.

The edited versions of the Liberal press trying to paint a picture of harmless and advanced immigration?

 

[per4mancealt]

Yes. She has a driver's license. She got in trouble on day one when another kid ratted her out to the teacher and she has since followed all of the rules. We have hectic schedules and it is nice to have the flexibility to by able to make changes on the fly by text. It's a wonderful tool since you can answer a text at your own time.

I thought the gook was home schooled ??

 

[colddiesel]

How I was as a child, if a teacher took my phone and didn't give it back after class, I was taking my shit from him or her.

I would imagine that there is a fair chance your level of educational achivement reflected that attitude.

 

[girlsmiley]

Non-feral kids, of course, never laugh at them.

:nods:

It's Australian lingo, champ.

I was responding to WQ.

I don't expect you to understand.

 

[zipman]

I can think of a lot of reasons that a child should have a phone, but that is the absolute most poorly thought through and damned dangerous reason. Parents that offer that up as an excuse should have the kids taken away and then be sterilized.

Ishmael

In what way is that "dangerous?"

And advocating for the state to take children away and force sterilization on parents is sooo libertarian of you.

Let's go over it again:
1) Think
2) Type
3) Reread it to see if it makes sense
4) Click Submit Reply

 

[Lancecastor]

Ish brought an abacus to school and his mother was sterilized?

 

[sweepthefloor]

Yes, my child has been going to school with a cellular phone for years.

It is convenient for me. I want to know when my child is on the bus in the morning, when off the bus in the afternoon, and when in the house after school. I also have a close family: I could be at work and receive the message: Uncle Tony is picking me up, or Aunt Lisa is over, or Pappy is taking me to band practice. It is a useful tool for coordinating care in this busy world. We do not have a house phone.

The school rules are appropriate. I have no problem with the teacher, or the school taking the phone away if my child uses the phone inappropriately, or creates a distraction.

People think that children are so helpless and unable to follow the rules. My child knows that if the teacher takes the phone away, I am not going to pick it up until I have time to pick it up, and that might not be for a few days depending on my work schedule.

I have never had a problem, and I have never had to go pick up the phone.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Ish brought an abacus to school and his mother was sterilized?

Ok... That's funny.

On a side note any parent who thinks, "how dare they take my kids phone" rather than ""what did my kid do to deserve this" is part of the problem with today's education system.

 

[Ishmael]

In what way is that "dangerous?"

And advocating for the state to take children away and force sterilization on parents is sooo libertarian of you.

Let's go over it again:
1) Think
2) Type
3) Reread it to see if it makes sense
4) Click Submit Reply

Stupid AND dangerous.

Let's start with the fact that neither the child nor the parent are in control of the situation and the phone isn't going to help. A dangerous waste of time.

The schools all have contingency plans for such an event, the kid better be listening to what they're being told........not trying to call Mom or Dad (who are of little or no use in the situation).

Most plans call for the children to be herded into a 'safe' zone where they won't draw the attention of the perp. Ringing phones and/or conversations would sorta defeat the whole purpose of that........ya think?

While cell towers have increased capacity these days, it's still finite. Hundreds of pointless calls being routed through the tower has the potential of blocking out the really important calls that need to be routed.

The kid having a phone isn't going to prevent shit from happening, nor make any significant difference in ameliorating the damage done. And in the worst case the parent giving instructions contrary to what the child is being told by the teacher, or whoever is executing the plan leading to confusion and tragedy. The parent isn't there and hasn't a clue as to what is occurring in that instant of time. And most likely the kid doesn't either. Of what value is the phone?

Using Columbine, or any of the other school tragedies, as an excuse for the student to have a phone is the sign of a weak mind. If the parent is all that concerned they should find out what the contingency plan is for the school their child is attending and voice their concerns, if any, before the shit hits the fan. Thinking a phone will make a difference, calling in or calling out, while the shit is flying isn't going to make any difference at all.

Parents who through Columbine out as an excuse are merely engaging in mindless histrionics and passing that mindless attitude on to their children.

Ishmael

 

[BabblingBrooke]

It is really this simple: expect your children to follow the rules. When they don't, they own the consequence; the teachers and principals should enforce the rules.