question about voting blocks.. real? imagined? I'm just asking..

[TxRad]

Drive around an affluent neighborhood and watch how many unsecure wifi signals you find.

..TMI...

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Exactly and it doesn't have to be affluent.

Yeah, but they always have the best equipment.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Beating a dead horse here...

Again, an IP address can only be tracked to, at the closest, the TOWN in which you used the internet. Driving around your home town, accessing unsecured networks from other people's homes, or coffee shops, or restaurants, or whatever, would still return something along the lines of:

IP address 111.222.33.44 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m. on 8-10-15

It wouldn't matter where you went in CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m. either. The IP address would change, absolutely, but don't you think this would look suspicious:

IP address 111.222.33.44 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m 8-10-15
IP address 222.333.44.55 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:45 p.m 8-10-15
IP address 333.444.55.66 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:55 p.m 8-10-15
IP address 444.555.66.77 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 12.05 a.m. 8-10-15

Or

IP address 111.222.33.44 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m on 8-10-15
IP address 222.333.44.55 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m on 8-11-15
IP address 333.444.55.66 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m on 8-12-15
IP address 444.555.66.77 accessed the server from CaCaPooPooPeePeeShire, New Jersey at 11:35 p.m on 8-13-15

Seeing the same general location over and over within even hours of each other or even days would raise flags, as would seeing the same "group" of locations voting the same numbers every contest.

In the case of large cities, it wouldn't matter which ISP you're accessing, being if it were Time Warner or HughesNet or whomever, because it would still show the same vague location. I'd guess IP addresses in larger cities would show by suburbs, like Manhattan, New York vs New York, New York. In either case, someone looking for fraudulent votes could see a pattern.

Again, in order to do what you're suggesting, you would have to drive outside of your IP address's "grid", use a new access point and alt account, then drive to ANOTHER grid, and so on. While most people do work outside of their home's grid, again, I point out that it is possible but unlikely for most to access an adult website from their place of occupation, let alone the risks involved.

Again, (there's that horse again) you're suggesting that 10+ individuals, who are located all over the world, are driving around, accessing networks miles apart, AT ALL AT THE SAME TIME WHEN A STORY POSTS, just to bomb or high five an author? Am I the only one who sees this as ridiculous? Where's the payoff in doing this?

Even as ridiculous as it is, if 10 very dedicated people wanted to pull this off, it would only work once. Consider how many towns there are in the world. In the millions? What's the highest vote count a story has managed in a contest? 1000+? It wouldn't be hard to spot the same general locations.

Which is why I've always wondered if more legit votes are swept than fraudulent. If my neighbor, who I don't know or socialize with, happens to coincidentally visit Literotica.com and vote for a story, would my vote and his be seen as fraudulent? How could the website tell? Better to sweep all possibilities, I guess.

No, it's not going to stop--but you could stop being idiots in claiming it's not happening (and with the help of those trying to hide it).

I'm actually going to follow your advice, because you're right, it isn't going to stop. That much was evident last time I called for us all to be adults. No matter how many times these conspiracies are debunked, even by some who have played the role of Switzerland in all of this, there will always be something new for some people to see that isn't really there.

By the way, you should consider rereading that new rule that was implemented.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

Oh, and don't forget, you need a few unscrupulous friends too. Folks with questionable moral values who want to malicious alter outcomes for their own, sinister, devious reasons.

That's it! Dammit! The hacking group anonymous is secretly controlling the contests! LMAO

All this reminds me of when I used to do magic professionally I would listen to someone tell me how I did a trick. Man, that was fun, too!

My last contest entry (non-eligible for any prize money) currently as over 1130 votes and was within shooting distance of placing. Even a sweep only impacted the score by .01.

But that's okay, it's all controlled by anonymous and armies of zombie computers!

 

[lovecraft68]

Personally I would have used Cockeysville, Maryland as an example, because it really exists.

 

[lovecraft68]

Oh, and don't forget, you need a few unscrupulous friends too. Folks with questionable moral values who want to malicious alter outcomes for their own, sinister, devious reasons.

That's it! Dammit! The hacking group anonymous is secretly controlling the contests! LMAO

All this reminds me of when I used to do magic professionally I would listen to someone tell me how I did a trick. Man, that was fun, too!

My last contest entry (non-eligible for any prize money) currently as over 1130 votes and was within shooting distance of placing. Even a sweep only impacted the score by .01.

But that's okay, it's all controlled by anonymous and armies of zombie computers!

Mine had about 100 less votes, but the sweep took it up around .08, then again that was after it was bombed from 4.83 down to the mid 4.7's. Consider yourself lucky you didn't have to deal with the groupies of an egomaniac.

But I think my wife-the one someone wished dead by her real first name in a public comment in the last contest- put a good spin on it.

"If they have to cheat to beat you or anyone else, that should tell you everything."

She's a motivational speaker for a reason, that girl.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Beating a dead horse here...

Again, an IP address can only be tracked to, at the closest, the TOWN in which you used the internet. Driving around your home town, accessing unsecured networks from other people's homes, or coffee shops, or restaurants, or whatever, would still return something along the lines of:

Actually the IP Address is town specific but also ISP specific. And we weren't talking about finding someone, but using other peoples IP addresses to post votes using a different alt for each IP address.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Actually the IP Address is town specific but also ISP specific. And we weren't talking about finding someone, but using other peoples IP addresses to post votes using a different alt for each IP address.

If I was mistaken about ISPs not showing when an IP address pings a server, I apologize.

And you're right, we weren't talking about finding someone. My post was to say that in order to use another person's IP address, with an alt account, and not appear as fraudulent, you couldn't say, use your neighbor's unsecured network, or drive around the corner to your local Denny's. There would be much more effort involved in order to make those votes stick, and logically, the payoff isn't worth the effort.

Unless, I suppose you were a person who's whole life revolved around Literotica.com to the point you had to use malicious software to mask thousands of votes in order to make yourself feel better. Then post about fake contests every other day....

 

[Zeb_Carter]

If I was mistaken about ISPs not showing when an IP address pings a server, I apologize.

And you're right, we weren't talking about finding someone. My post was to say that in order to use another person's IP address, with an alt account, and not appear as fraudulent, you couldn't say, use your neighbor's unsecured network, or drive around the corner to your local Denny's. There would be much more effort involved in order to make those votes stick, and logically, the payoff isn't worth the effort.

Unless, I suppose you were a person who's whole life revolved around Literotica.com to the point you had to use malicious software to mask thousands of votes in order to make yourself feel better. Then post about fake contests every other day....

Not really...I can sit behind my router, which isn't registered to me, nor is the IP associated with it and utilizing software and slight of hand make any site I go to think I'm in London or Moscow. Not say I do those sort of things, but you can spoof IP addresses from anywhere now.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Not really...I can sit behind my router, which isn't registered to me, nor is the IP associated with it and utilizing software and slight of hand make any site I go to think I'm in London or Moscow. Not say I do those sort of things, but you can spoof IP addresses from anywhere now.

I find that hard to believe, seeing as how it is your ISP that dictates your public IP address. It's very hard to change it without their intervention.

Still, hackers do it all the time, so it has to be possible. Still more effort than reward here.

 

[sr71plt]

I thought you were going to stop trying to throw flack up in the air.

And, yes, I've read the new rule. You might read it again yourself.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

I thought you were going to stop trying to throw flack up in the air.

And, yes, I've read the new rule. You might read it again yourself.

I wasn't the one calling others idiots, just saying.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm buzzing and this is getting dull.

Meanwhile some friends -no they don't vote here-they don't even know about this place shhh- and I are tasked with picking theme songs.

this is the leader so far, but I think the video being so nasty is adding to the effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEMXOyCCqc

 

[sr71plt]

I wasn't the one calling others idiots, just saying.

But you're the one pumping fake flak in the atmosphere. So, it becomes just a definition, not an attack.

You're such a great erotica writer, but with only seven entries here, most chapters, and nothing in six months. Your time would probably be better spent writing new works for us to salivate over than working at defending the indefensible.

 

[redzinger]

I am fucking shitfaced. Is that the same as buzzing?

I've no idea how I cycled home without crashing my bike. Luckily, it was 99% traffic free.

What were we talking about?

 

[sr71plt]

I am fucking shitfaced. Is that the same as buzzing?

I've no idea how I cycled home without crashing my bike. Luckily, it was 99% traffic free.

What were we talking about?

Well, we could talk about Freddie's political threats finally being sent to the Politics board.

 

[lovecraft68]

I am fucking shitfaced. Is that the same as buzzing?

I've no idea how I cycled home without crashing my bike. Luckily, it was 99% traffic free.

What were we talking about?

Nah, buzzing is halfway to shit faced, I may get there in a half hour or so. I'm on a quest to find the bottom of a bottle of Jack and I think I'm getting close.

What we need is more Manson...Marilyn that is....

Love the dancers make up and all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb8ABt6wc4A&index=32&list=PL-_IxJhN_q27g6Jc2soKgfmKitlJRD-AY

 

[redzinger]

I stopped at T*sco. They had a special offer on. I bought two curries and rice for £4.

Also had an offer on Kettle Chips. Salt & Vinegar. Lush.

Seriously, they are the dogs' bollocks.

Total spend £5.

(But about ten times that on drink earlier. Hehe.

I don't care if I'm boring. I have the shivers. I need more crisps. Or something.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

I'm buzzing and this is getting dull.

Meanwhile some friends -no they don't vote here-they don't even know about this place shhh- and I are tasked with picking theme songs.

this is the leader so far, but I think the video being so nasty is adding to the effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEMXOyCCqc

Theme songs! I love theme songs!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJGDnIbViiw

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm 10k into a new project....11 people dead, one killed by a crow with razors affixed to its claws.

Basic premise....A mafia family vs a coven of witches.

My hatred of men and religion on full display

I love writing drunk.

 

[redzinger]

Well, we could talk about Freddie's political threats finally being sent to the Politics board.

Freddie?

That's waaaaay over my head. There was a shit thread on guns earlier. Guns are shit. End of.

Nah, buzzing is halfway to shit faced, I may get there in a half hour or so. I'm on a quest to find the bottom of a bottle of Jack and I think I'm getting close.

Dig it out, mun, dig it. I can't believe I can still type stuff. The anal part of me won't let me ignore the red squiggles under misspelt words though.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I find that hard to believe, seeing as how it is your ISP that dictates your public IP address. It's very hard to change it without their intervention.

Still, hackers do it all the time, so it has to be possible. Still more effort than reward here.

They do. And, yes, it is a big hassle to do. You have to modify the packets you machine sends, replacing the IP address and all the IP header information, etc., etc., etc. A lot of trouble for very little reward.

 

[lovecraft68]

Theme songs! I love theme songs!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJGDnIbViiw

The ultimate for writing pure mayhem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QX2aMdeI0

 

[lovecraft68]

Freddie?

That's waaaaay over my head. There was a shit thread on guns earlier. Guns are shit. End of.



Dig it out, mun, dig it. I can't believe I can still type stuff. The anal part of me won't let me ignore the red squiggles under misspelt words though.

wait you're shit faced and saying something about anal? Well then....I best stick around.

 

[lovecraft68]

Best riff to fuck to...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g