Trump's German Heritage

[Ishmael]

Sigh.

The last time I was here, you were persona non grata. How did you get Laurel to put the mat out for you again?

*sigh*

Right on topic.

Ishmael

 

[Magicscreen2]

As "on topic" as any other waste of time around here.

 

[Conager]

So, Trump decended from Germans, the Austrian Corporal ran Germany 75 years ago, therefore Trump is a Nazi? Got it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And your response is exactly the reason you are on ignore. You had a chance to be taken off the list but you blew it sparky. You just can't quite form a complete thought.

Ishmael

I know the reason I'm on ignore. It's because I actually take the time to piece your shit apart instead of just calling you stupid and moving on. Its easy to get into a pissing contest with someone who basically refuses to acknowledge you exist and thus doesn't pay attention to what you say or how stupid it is.

It's okay though. We both knew how thsi would end and ths the same way that everything ends when someone encounteres a superior. They turn tail and run.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Primarily the former....the rest is in our cultural DNA.

https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/trump-compared-to-hitler.jpg

Ya better watch out, that German heritage might cause President Trump to decide to annex Canada and deport the illegal aliens there.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I can't resist responding to that statement.

You are so incredibly wrong. The ancients had a much firmer handle on human behavior than most of today's society. If for no other reason that they had the time to actually observe human behavior without all of the superfluous distractions that today's technological society has.

Read the Bible, not as a religious work, but rather as a historical work on the observation of human behavior. You will find every facet of behavior in that book, the good, the bad, and the ugly. There is NO new behavior, it's all been documented in the past. Only Shakespeare comes close to such insightful observations.

Further, there is nothing new under the Sun with regard to man's relationship to his fellow man, or his government. All of that has been documented as well.

We are not smarter, nor are we wiser. (And there is researched evidence that, at least in Europe, the cumulative IQ is falling.) Neither you, nor anyone else, can provide any evidence that mankind has made any substantial advances in the past 3000 years beyond technological advances. To make the statement that somehow we are is nothing more than an unsubstantiated act of hubris.

Ishmael

Spot on.

Goes hand in hand with Hulsmann's observations in "The Last Knight of Liberalism" about how, especially in Vienna, the Weimar years and economic policies were dominated by the idea that society had "evolved" because transportation and communication had evolved and thus "money" had evolved (independent of wealth) and we see how that experiment ended. We are currently living in just a time of hubris and conceit which is couple with the same Prussian idea of education as the perfect abrogation of human nature.

And, as we can see, these new secular Templars are bound and determined to enforce their religion upon everyone else.

The unbelievers must be crushed. And so, the cycle repeats...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I know the reason I'm on ignore. It's because I actually take the time to piece your shit apart instead of just calling you stupid and moving on. Its easy to get into a pissing contest with someone who basically refuses to acknowledge you exist and thus doesn't pay attention to what you say or how stupid it is.

It's okay though. We both knew how thsi would end and ths the same way that everything ends when someone encounteres a superior. They turn tail and run.

No, it's because your tactic of not responding with logic and reasoned, structured argument and just simply using the "s" word as if every tenet of your belief system is a priori knowledge that is shared by everyone who is smart is incredibly shallow and boring. Then, when met with any cogent rebuttal your response is a frantic and repetitive use of the "s" word as if that is finally going to make the person you are attacking sit up, palm face and realize, Holy crap Batman! I really am so stupid that it's positively gay! Tights? What the hell was I thinking? With a CAPE??? No wonder Elvis didn't invite me to the party...

 

[Pookie]

I think the OP point was about the hypocrisy. I didn't take it to mean germans are xenophobic. Although I could have interpreted the OP wrong.
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I believe you got it right. It was just a bit too high brow for most who replied.

 

[Lancecastor]

I believe you got it right. It was just a bit too high brow for most who replied.

The USA has a gigantic immigration problem, yet is totally reliant on illegal immigrants to put food on its table.

At the same time, every candidate comes from a line of immigrants and one was born in Calgary even.

Ishmael made a good point yesterday; Canada has by comparison very strict immigration laws.

and yeah, when a german xenophobe Talks about deporting 11 million people while running for president to a "so what" in reply from americans here.... It is either disturbing, or evidence of a lack of smarts in the room.

 

[Pookie]

The USA has a gigantic immigration problem, yet is totally reliant on illegal immigrants to put food on its table.

At the same time, every candidate comes from a line of immigrants and one was born in Calgary even.

Ishmael made a good point yesterday; Canada has by comparison very strict immigration laws.

and yeah, when a german xenophobe Talks about deporting 11 million people while running for president to a "so what" in reply from americans here.... It is either disturbing, or evidence of a lack of smarts in the room.

The whole idea of sending out the government to round up the masses of undesirables should have alarm bells ringing like crazy with the "Greatest Generation".

 

[Ishmael]

The USA has a gigantic immigration problem, yet is totally reliant on illegal immigrants to put food on its table.

At the same time, every candidate comes from a line of immigrants and one was born in Calgary even.

Ishmael made a good point yesterday; Canada has by comparison very strict immigration laws.

and yeah, when a german xenophobe Talks about deporting 11 million people while running for president to a "so what" in reply from americans here.... It is either disturbing, or evidence of a lack of smarts in the room.

Yet another myth. Some vegetables will be more expensive, but we won't starve.

And you are still struggling with the differentiation between an immigrant and an illegal alien. The former are welcome, the latter gotta go.

Ishmael

 

[Que]

Why is it that the same people that absolutely insist that no economic harm will come from artificially inflating with minimum wage, insist that the necessary rise in labor cost if we remove illegal easily exploitable low skilled workers will have such a devastating impact on our economy that we can't feed ourselves?

We do not have a shortage of workers for unskilled jobs. We do not need to import unskilled workers. We have plenty of uneducated low skilled people born right here in America. As we continue to increase automation we have less and less need for unskilled labor not more.

The very same people that whine about people unable to support their families unable to make a so-called living wage in a low skilled job cannot see that these two conflicting positions are mutually exclusive.

Let's assume for the sake of discussion that we magically need 11 million unskilled workers because there's no one born in America that would ever do to any of those jobs for any amount of money. Do we need 22 million over the next 10 years 33 million over the next 20 years 50 million how many should we import?

Why do we need to import them from Mexico? Why not Cuba or Somalia or Bangladesh?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yet another myth. Some vegetables will be more expensive, but we won't starve.

And you are still struggling with the differentiation between an immigrant and an illegal alien. The former are welcome, the latter gotta go.

Ishmael

Not only that, but you never know when third-world toilet happens are going to kick off another round of illness...

 

[Pookie]

...
Why do we need to import them from Mexico? Why not Cuba or Somalia or Bangladesh?

Only about 60 percent of the current illegals are from Mexico.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Only about 60 percent of the current illegals are from Mexico.

That's comforting...

 

[Que]

Only about 60 percent of the current illegals are from Mexico.

Non-responsive to the commentary on their economic impact on wages. Nothing like taking the absolute least important part of my post. Typical.

There's no point in discussing economics on this board as far as I can tell there are five maybe six people capable of basic arithmetic let alone economic theory.

 

[Pookie]

Yet another myth. Some vegetables will be more expensive, but we won't starve.

It's a wee bit more involved than some vegetables being more expensive.

 

[Pookie]

Non-responsive to the commentary on their economic impact on wages. Nothing like taking the absolute least important part of my post. Typical.

There's no point in discussing economics on this board as far as I can tell there are five maybe six people capable of basic arithmetic let alone economic theory.

I wasn't trying to be responsive. Just pointing out a significant factual error. It's reason enough to discount the remainder of your post's accuracy ... and not waste my time engaging in the "responsive" way you desire.

 

[Pookie]

That's comforting...

Lets round all them undesirables up! We can go door to door and have everyone show us their papers!

 

[Que]

I wasn't trying to be responsive. Just pointing out a significant factual error. It's reason enough to discount the remainder of your post's accuracy ... and not waste my time engaging in the "responsive" way you desire.

Well that sorts that. Good thing you didn't finda a comma out of place or something really probitive.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Lets round all them undesirables up! We can go door to door and have everyone show us their papers!

Easier means to do it. Typical lib response, like when Obama said hey, two choices, very bad deal or war and I choose deal, so you must want war.

What is the percentage of illegals that come from and through Mexico, escorted by the cartels and when they cannot pay, are forced to be heroin mules...

 

[Pookie]

Well that sorts that. Good thing you didn't finda a comma out of place or something really probitive.

You have that going for you at least. Good on you!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Probative is a trigger word that conjures up the a priori liberal dictum that men are rapists and you are doubling down by threatening a lesbian with rape...



Shame on you!

 

[about_average]

And you are still struggling with the differentiation between an immigrant and an illegal alien. The former are welcome, the latter gotta go.

And Trump's reason for deporting them?

"They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

 

[Pookie]

Easier means to do it. Typical lib response, like when Obama said hey, two choices, very bad deal or war and I choose deal, so you must want war.

What is the percentage of illegals that come from and through Mexico, escorted by the cartels and when they cannot pay, are forced to be heroin mules...

I'm sure there are easier ways. But this thread is about Trump. He wants the government to round them all up. Stay focused.