issues with editors and site itself

[joe76]

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[sr71plt]

If you don't find what Laurel is questioning in a rejection (and it's in the form of a question--she's going mostly on scanning), bring the rejected story back up, put a explanatory disclaimer note in the Notes box, and submit and hit the submit button again after the review copy comes up. This puts it back at the end of her submission queue but it gives your disclaimer of what she was questioning was there--and very likely isn't there.

But, you're right. Marking it as rejected rather than queried when she hasn't actually zeroed in on the suspected problem and pointed it out directly is irritating and not the best approach. It's what happens here, though, and it's her turf.

 

[Laurel]

the last two stories I have tried to submit have been rejected for varies reasons.
problem is I read back thru the stories and so has my wife but neither one of us
understand why they got rejected because we didn't find these issues in them

I pm laurel two days ago and still no reply, also tried to find an editor but most
either won't accept the forum I use to write on or won't edit the subjects that
I write about. I prefer to only deal with one editor and not one for each subject

am I the only one having these issues?

I am trying to follow the site rules and suggestion but I seem to be hitting road
blocks with everything I try. anyone have some advice on how to deal with this?

BTW I understand that this is a free site and these people are just volunteers that
do this on their free time. but I belong to several other forum based site for my
other hobby and I never have these kinds of issues when I ask questions

Hi there!

Please read this:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=175666

If after reading and following the instructions there you're still puzzled, please PM me with the title of the submission.

FYI, the site software is set up so that it is impossible for me to reject a submission without choosing a reason. If you are not seeing a reason, there is a problem which we need to fix. Please let me know if this is the case.

 

[_Lynn_]

Hi there!

Please read this:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=175666

If after reading and following the instructions there you're still puzzled, please PM me with the title of the submission.

FYI, the site software is set up so that it is impossible for me to reject a submission without choosing a reason. If you are not seeing a reason, there is a problem which we need to fix. Please let me know if this is the case.

Thanks for popping in to help the OP.

 

[joe76]

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[sr71plt]

Don't e-mail Laurel. They definitely don't read those. PM is the only route. (And I might add that she responded to you directly on the forum, which almost never happens, so you're ahead of most everyone else on that score.)

And, yes, the Volunteer Editor system is more a frustration than a help--hopelessly off the rails and admin won't shoot it and either start it over again or stop pretending it functions well.

There is a sticky at the top of this forum where editors announce their availability by month. That's a good place to start. There also is a sticky up there where you can try to hook up with someone just to help each other with another pair of eyes.

 

[_Lynn_]

the last two stories I have tried to submit have been rejected for varies reasons.
problem is I read back thru the stories and so has my wife but neither one of us
understand why they got rejected because we didn't find these issues in them

I pm laurel two days ago and still no reply, also tried to find an editor but most
either won't accept the forum I use to write on or won't edit the subjects that
I write about. I prefer to only deal with one editor and not one for each subject

am I the only one having these issues?

I am trying to follow the site rules and suggestion but I seem to be hitting road
blocks with everything I try. anyone have some advice on how to deal with this?

BTW I understand that this is a free site and these people are just volunteers that
do this on their free time. but I belong to several other forum based site for my
other hobby and I never have these kinds of issues when I ask questions

What is the word count on the rejected story? What was the reason for the rejection? Maybe I can help.

 

[joe76]

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[sr71plt]

Just a note that "me and my wife" is a grammar mistake that creeps ever deeper into the language. It should be "my wife and me." You should always be last in that construction ("Clyde and me"; "My mother and father and me"). It's getting pervasive in the language by a younger, less-educated generation and really grates on those with grammar training. So just maybe there's more of this type usage in your rejected story(?)

 

[RandyVicar]

Just a note that "me and my wife" is a grammar mistake that creeps ever deeper into the language. It should be "my wife and me." You should always be last in that construction ("Clyde and me"; "My mother and father and me"). It's getting pervasive in the language by a younger, less-educated generation and really grates on those with grammar training. So just maybe there's more of this type usage in your rejected story(?)

Um, it should be "my wife and I", because they're the subject of the verb, not the object.

Also, if they were the object of the sentence ("They visited me and my wife"), it's still not grammatically incorrect to put "me" first. It's just some old rule we learned in elementary school that has no relation to actual English grammar.

I wonder if they even still teach that rule.

 

[sr71plt]

Um, it should be "my wife and I", because they're the subject of the verb, not the object.

Also, if they were the object of the sentence ("They visited me and my wife"), it's still not grammatically incorrect to put "me" first. It's just some old rule we learned in elementary school that has no relation to actual English grammar.

I wonder if they even still teach that rule.

You're right, of course. There are constructions when it should be "my wife and me," but in this one it should be "my wife and I." Probably nothing points as quickly to a shortfall in English grammar education as how someone uses this construction.

 

[SexyGeek]

Grammar and punctuation

it's around 2000 words the program I use doesn't have a word count so I am just guessing from line count

reasons were

spelling---which I only found one word that was questionable since I was using a slang term

grammar/punctuation--which I only found one mistake also

part of my frustration is I have found bigger mistakes in stories that have already been post on this site so I don't get why my smaller less noticeable ones are being such a big deal

I have resubmitted the story after me and my wife went thru it again and fix the little things if rejected again I will message you about editing or find someone on the available list

Joe --honestly, in your posts you have a LOT of grammar and punctuation mistakes. Look at the last two sentences here. Corrected, they would read:

Part of my frustration is that I have found bigger mistakes in stories that have already been posted on the site, so I don't get why my smaller, less noticeable, ones are being such a big deal.

I have resubmitted the story after my wife and I went through it again and fixed the little things. If rejected again I will message you about editing or find someone on the available list.

That is 12 obvious errors in two sentences. (Yeah, I know some editors will take issue with my comma setoff of "less noticeable"). So let's say 10 errors. If your story contained errors at that rate, frankly it would be almost unreadable. Just a few small errors can put readers off.

I am not trying to be nasty here. I would be happy to take a look at your stories and help with the grammar and punctuation.

 

[joe76]

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[Tigersman]

Grammar

Just a note that "me and my wife" is a grammar mistake that creeps ever deeper into the language. It should be "my wife and me." You should always be last in that construction ("Clyde and me"; "My mother and father and me"). It's getting pervasive in the language by a younger, less-educated generation and really grates on those with grammar training. So just maybe there's more of this type usage in your rejected story(?)

Shame! Shame! It should have been "my wife and I" not "my wife and me."

 

[sr71plt]

Are we still in the realm, Joe, of you realizing that your inability to get your stories accepted here is your problem and that you're asking others to volunteer their time and effort to get your problem solved? Just doing an attitude check.

 

[sr71plt]

Shame! Shame! It should have been "my wife and I" not "my wife and me."

Yes, which I acknowledged (which you'd know if you didn't fire off without reading the whole thread). I was putting the "me" and the "wife" in the proper order from the original phrase--without carrying through on just how out of whack the usage was.

 

[SexyGeek]

Picky Picky

didn't realize there were so many grammar Nazi's here

the difference between what I post here and my stories is that my stories get re-read several times over days, weeks, months checking for errors by myself before I let my wife read them to check for mistakes I missed

the posts I made in here I only quickly scanned thru before posting

it amazes me just how picky some of you are about these things that most of the people who reads these stories either wouldn't even notice or wouldn't even care about

like I said before I have found several stories here with mistakes in them (I.E. double 'the' or key words missing like 'he' or 'she') that have gotten past the editors

this was supposed to be a relaxing hobby for me while I recovered for an injury but has been more frustrating then it's worth so far

Well, Joe, this is the editor's board and you came here asking for help on REJECTED stories. It is pretty much an editor's job to be picky, isn't it? Grammar Nazis just complain, editors try to help. Whether or not most people care, the moderators at Literotica do care. When the mistakes reach the level that the story becomes difficult to read for many people, then it gets rejected.

Sure, I have seen stories with minor grammar mistakes get accepted. I am mortified when I go back and read one of my posted stories and see a mistake I should have caught. It is a judgement call on the part of the moderators. They do not read every story in great detail -- there is not enough time. If the quick scan turns up multiple errors, then -- REJECTED.

Now it is interesting that the two sentences I quoted above only give ONE error when put through Word's Grammar check, yet I think most editors would agree with most of the corrections I pointed out.

I offered, and I repeat the offer, to look over your story and see if I can tell why it is rejected. PM me if you want.

 

[joe76]

I guess this isn't the right place for my stories thanks to those who tried to help me but my style of writing doesn't work with such strict grammar rules that don't really apply to todays worlds

 

[LadyVer]

All writers--and editors--post comments that have mechanical errors. To correlate a public comment to writing skills is ridiculous. And I don't see an attitude problem with the OP.

OP, it may help if you read the sticky threads in the Author's Hangout and Editor's Forum, as well as searching for threads in both forums that are about the questions you have.

Writing and editing on Lit have a learning curve, just like anything else.

Finding an editor on Lit can be difficult, depending on story length, category, themes, and the fact that volunteer editors are spending valuable time editing for free--sometimes for authors who don't understand the value of providing information up front and because they think all editors will edit anything of any length for any category for any theme for free.

Good luck.

 

[sr71plt]

So, have you volunteered to help him, Lady Ver, or just trying to be contrary without putting any effort into it?

 

[LadyVer]

So, have you volunteered to help him, Lady Ver, or just trying to be contrary without putting any effort into it?

How can I volunteer to edit for anyone when I don't have the information I need? I get just as frustrated as other editors when an author requesting an editor doesn't provide information. The issue is that it is unnecessary to attack a writer for the mechanics of their comments, and then tell them they have a bad attitude when they respond in a mature manner.