Hillary Clinton Should Drop Out NOW!

[JackLuis]

Bernie Fans And Republicans Agree:

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hillary-vampire.jpg​

Oh look, it is another extremely meaningful poll to tell us the extremely meaningful things about what might happen if the 2016 election were held today, even though it’s not going to be held for (hold on, back-of-the-napkin calculations happening) at least eleventy thousand more days. Considering how Hillary Clinton is probably a ginormous email criminal, who insists on changing her email address every single time she fires up a new AOL free trial CD-ROM, should she drop out of the race RIGHT THIS SECOND? Glad we have a poll from the ever-reliable Rasmussen to tell us these things:

[T]he latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Clinton should suspend her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination until all of the legal questions about her use of the private e-mail server are resolved. Nearly as many (44%) disagree. Nine percent (9%) are undecided.

 

[1sickbastard]

Besides incentivizing the GOP base to turn out on election day, there's little her second run for POTUS is likely to accomplish.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't believe any other Dem would have much chance of winning the general election. Biden is a clown and Bernie is too much of an extremist to win the nationwide election. He would be another McGovern of Dukakis. That is not to say I expect Silly Hilly to win either.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Got a nice chuckle out of that one.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The conventions are a long time from now and the general election is even farther.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Which doesn't change the facts. Bernie is a self avowed socialist. You may as well run on the Nazi platform in the US and no amount of sane straight talk is going to un fuck that scenario. He's clearly the best choice by miles and miles but he's not going to win, I'd be shocked if the nomination is even legitimately a competetion instead of a few states going wonky.

Biden isn't as bad as many make him out to be. I honestly don't get what much of the dislike is about. He just isn't much of a presence and I can't see him winning.

Its really either Hillary or forfeit.

The catch however is the Republicans seem to be firing all cylinders in the lets see how bad we can fuck up Olympics. We've got Trump actively insulting women, Hispanics and Asians and at best giving backhanded compliments to blacks. Nobody is really attempting to reign him in and worse the other Republicans seem to be mimicking him. There's no accurate way of telling who's going to come out on top here. There are a bunch who should drop out after the next debate and then we may get a clearer picture of what's actually happening. I suspect that a lot of the votes that are spread out between everybody below Bush. So the dozen people with 5% or less aren't going to flock to Trump. We'll see who dhty as people drop out though. And I might be wrong. I'm not too proud to admit I expected him to take his leave after the first debate.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Which doesn't change the facts. Bernie is a self avowed socialist. You may as well run on the Nazi platform in the US and no amount of sane straight talk is going to un fuck that scenario. He's clearly the best choice by miles and miles but he's not going to win, I'd be shocked if the nomination is even legitimately a competetion instead of a few states going wonky.

Biden isn't as bad as many make him out to be. I honestly don't get what much of the dislike is about. He just isn't much of a presence and I can't see him winning.

Its really either Hillary or forfeit.

The catch however is the Republicans seem to be firing all cylinders in the lets see how bad we can fuck up Olympics. We've got Trump actively insulting women, Hispanics and Asians and at best giving backhanded compliments to blacks. Nobody is really attempting to reign him in and worse the other Republicans seem to be mimicking him. There's no accurate way of telling who's going to come out on top here. There are a bunch who should drop out after the next debate and then we may get a clearer picture of what's actually happening. I suspect that a lot of the votes that are spread out between everybody below Bush. So the dozen people with 5% or less aren't going to flock to Trump. We'll see who dhty as people drop out though. And I might be wrong. I'm not too proud to admit I expected him to take his leave after the first debate.

Biden is thought of as a clown, much as Dan Quayle was in 1989 through 1992. The difference is that TV shows don't have a vendetta against Biden.

This is one election when, if their were a "None of the above" choice on the ballot, it would probably get the most votes. This would be sort of like Obama voting "present" so often.

 

[BotanyBoy]

But it would be more fun watching Trump crush her....

 

[Sean Renaud]

Biden is thought of as a clown, much as Dan Quayle was in 1989 through 1992. The difference is that TV shows don't have a vendetta against Biden.

This is one election when, if their were a "None of the above" choice on the ballot, it would probably get the most votes. This would be sort of like Obama voting "present" so often.

I'm too young to remember Quayle as much of anything and it's difficult to get any feel for how the public felt about someone even a few years back forget about over twenty years.

As for the none of the above people say that every goddamn year. I'm pretty sure that's just something people say and it has no bearing on reality whatsoever.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Tim Malloy, Assistant Director,
Quinnipiac University Poll

AUGUST 27, 2015

Matchups among all American voters show:
 Biden tops Trump 48 – 40 percent. He beats Bush 45 – 39 percent and gets 44 percent to Rubio’s
41 percent.
 Clinton edges Trump 45 – 41 percent. She gets 42 percent to Bush’s 40 percent and gets 44 percent
to Rubio’s 43 percent.
 Sanders edges Trump 44 – 41 percent and edges Bush 43 – 39 percent. Rubio gets 41
percent to Sanders’ 40 percent.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us08272015_Ueg38d.pdf

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It is a volatile year, so all of this can change. I will vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are acceptable to me in the general election.

I actually like a lot of what Donald Trump is saying about immigration. It really does contribute to the growing income gap. Nevertheless, I do not trust Republicans on taxes. No matter what they talk about they end up cutting taxes for the rich if they are able to.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't think anybody argues that immigration both legal and not does contribute to the income gap. The debate is in what to do about it and if it's the primary driving factor. It seems pretty clear when you see the increase in pay at the top that it's clearly not the only factor by a long shot. The decrease in unions clearly contributed to that in a significant way. Lower taxes contributed. Increased automation and the internet (assuming you count them separately) have contributed. Globalization has contributed.

I was also impressed when Trump mentioned that hedge fund managers should pay more. So he's not entirely devoid of quality ideas.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm too young to remember Quayle as much of anything and it's difficult to get any feel for how the public felt about someone even a few years back forget about over twenty years.

As for the none of the above people say that every goddamn year. I'm pretty sure that's just something people say and it has no bearing on reality whatsoever.

Actually, it's more than that. In NV it's on the ballot, and sometimes wins.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/11/nevada-votes-for-none-of-the-above/

Politicians hate it, because it's a way for citizens to express their disdain. It would probably only appear on ballots if the initiative process is in operation, such as in CA.

It did appear on the ballot as an initiative in 2000 but won only about one third of the votes. http://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_23,_the_"None_of_the_Above"_Act_(2000)

 

[Sean Renaud]

I stand corrected.

Though I think CA is a bad example. A LOT of us don't really take voting, at least for the President, particularly seriously for a few reasons. First just in a realistic manner our state is going blue. Correct me if I'm wrong isn't Reagan the last time we went Red? (Well Republican, up until Bush Red=Incumbant not Republican but hey whatever.) Second by sheer math my vote is worth less than people who live in fucking worthless fly by states.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I stand corrected.

Though I think CA is a bad example. A LOT of us don't really take voting, at least for the President, particularly seriously for a few reasons. First just in a realistic manner our state is going blue. Correct me if I'm wrong isn't Reagan the last time we went Red? (Well Republican, up until Bush Red=Incumbant not Republican but hey whatever.) Second by sheer math my vote is worth less than people who live in fucking worthless fly by states.

There were Governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson in the 1980's and 1990's. In 1988, the state voted for Bush Senior, and he probably would also have won in 1992 if not for Ross Perot.

My presidential vote is pretty useless but I also vote for Congress critters and on initiatives.

At one time, "Red" meant Communist.

 

[akatrex]

I don't believe any other Dem would have much chance of winning the general election. Biden is a clown and Bernie is too much of an extremist to win the nationwide election. He would be another McGovern of Dukakis. That is not to say I expect Silly Hilly to win either.

Hillary is a Lying Cunt. Oh oh did I say the C Word???

C L I N T O N. . . . Lying Bitch.

Questions.

Please send all emails to my Personal Server in my Bomb Shelter Bunker!!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

There were Governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson in the 1980's and 1990's. In 1988, the state voted for Bush Senior, and he probably would also have won in 1992 if not for Ross Perot.

My presidential vote is pretty useless but I also vote for Congress critters and on initiatives.

At one time, "Red" meant Communist.

We had Governor Schwartzenegger as well. I was only talking about at the Presidential level there.

I occasionally vote on Congress Critters though that's often also a waste. They run virtually unapposed.

And oh no commies. I still can't believe you guys were so scared of that stuff.

 

[akatrex]

We had Governor Schwartzenegger as well. I was only talking about at the Presidential level there.

I occasionally vote on Congress Critters though that's often also a waste. They run virtually unapposed.

And oh no commies. I still can't believe you guys were so scared of that stuff.

Hillary is a Lying Cunt. Oh oh did I say the C Word???

C L I N T O N. . . . Lying Bitch.

Questions.

Please send all emails to my Personal Server in my Bomb Shelter Bunker!!!

 

[LadyVer]

Hillary is a Lying Cunt. Oh oh did I say the C Word???

C L I N T O N. . . . Lying Bitch.

Questions.

Please send all emails to my Personal Server in my Bomb Shelter Bunker!!!

PS Where you been?

What's worse is the 16 and counting LYING GOP candidates.

 

[Boxlicker101]

PS Where you been?

What's worse is the 16 and counting LYING GOP candidates.

All politicians lie, but Hillary lies more than most.

 

[LadyVer]

All politicians lie, but Hillary lies more than most.

Do you remember Richard M. Nixon? Hillary lies more than most? I'm still laughing.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Do you remember Richard M. Nixon? Hillary lies more than most? I'm still laughing.

The two are comparable, except that Nixon's lies were banner headlines, while Hillary's chicanery is only now being reported, even though it goes back to the time she was still unmarried.

 

[LadyVer]

The two are comparable, except that Nixon's lies were banner headlines, while Hillary's chicanery is only now being reported, even though it goes back to the time she was still unmarried.

That's some weird logic.

 

[The_Trouvere]

The two are comparable, except that Nixon's lies were banner headlines, while Hillary's chicanery is only now being reported, even though it goes back to the time she was still unmarried.

Nixon was driven from office because by 1974 powerful Americans had turned against the War in Vietnam. Nixon was prolonging a war the United States did not deserve to win. In addition, the inflationary recession of 1974 put the electorate in a bad mood, and made Nixon vulnerable to popular resentment. The Watergate coverup was only an excuse to get Nixon.

Compared with prolonging the War in Vietnam Hillary has not done anything terribly wrong. Unless she was passing classified material in her deleted e-mail messages, and I am confident she was not, I do not see what the problem is.

 

[The_Trouvere]

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hillary-vampire.jpg

This photograph illustrates the pathological animosities that govern the Clinton haters. They are loathsome.

 

[JackLuis]

This photograph illustrates the pathological animosities that govern the Clinton haters. They are loathsome.

I know but I put it up to show that fact.