Gay Basher... Bashed?

[JackLuis]

Unlucky gay-basher left bloodied and humiliated after tangle with gay married West Point grads

A would-be gay-basher got more than he bargained for when the two men he attacked in a New York City bodega turned out to be trained graduates of the U.S. military academy at West Point.

According to the New York Daily News, West Point graduates and husbands Daniel and Larry Lennox-Choate were shopping at a bodega in SoHo when a man spewing antigay epithets rushed up and punched Daniel in the face.

Larry Lennox-Choate wrote on Facebook that he leapt to his husband’s defense and the assailant “left covered in his own blood with his tail between his legs.”

“I handled the situation and tossed him in the street like the coward loser he is,” the Facebook post continued. “The hate crimes division of the NYPD is on the case and we have full faith a positive outcome will follow.”

 

[CyranoJ]

Pity it doesn't always turn out that way. Funny story, though.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So they say. SHOW ME THE MONEY!

 

[Handley_Page]

Understandable, but I still have trouble with the expressions "His Husband" or "Her wife"

 

[tomlitilia]

Understandable, but I still have trouble with the expressions "His Husband" or "Her wife"

It's quite easy really. "His" and "her" are possessive pronouns, referring to male and female persons, respectively. "Husband" and "wife" are terms used to describe marital status, again for male or female persons, respectively. Hope that helped.

 

[sr71plt]

I usually revert to "spouse." "Husband" and "wife" have connotation with some people on the role of that individual in the marriage. I avoid it unless I want to quickly convey the sense of traditional role taken by that partner.

 

[49greg]

My my my, if that happened more often then maybe those homophobes wouldn't be so vitriolic.

Whenever I hear about people who are so violently against homosexuality, I say to myself that perhaps they are just denying their true nature. I blame improper toilet training LOL.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My my my, if that happened more often then maybe those homophobes wouldn't be so vitriolic.

Whenever I hear about people who are so violently against homosexuality, I say to myself that perhaps they are just denying their true nature. I blame improper toilet training LOL.

TOILET is the key word. We think fags should be in toilets like other shit and flushed.

 

[JKendallDane]

I always got a kick out of the homophobic rednecks here that would make the mistake of thinking every gay person was not going to defend themselves and simply take a total beat down. More often than not, they quickly discovered they were in the fight of their life by picking the wrong (as our AH resident homophobe JBJ is so fond of saying) FAG to bash.

The best ones though were when some poor dumbass redneck boy had to come up with some explanation for his buddies about his wounds, since he sure the hell wasn't ever going to admit the drag queen he jumped was a former Navy Seal.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I always got a kick out of the homophobic rednecks here that would make the mistake of thinking every gay person was not going to defend themselves and simply take a total beat down. More often than not, they quickly discovered they were in the fight of their life by picking the wrong (as our AH resident homophobe JBJ is so fond of saying) FAG to bash.

The best ones though were when some poor dumbass redneck boy had to come up with some explanation for his buddies about his wounds, since he sure the hell wasn't ever going to admit the drag queen he jumped was a former Navy Seal.

Many years ago I observed a fag kick the asses of some homophobes, and I never forgot what he said: THE ONLY THANG I LIKE BETTER THAN SUCKIN DICKS IS KICKIN ASS!

But most of you fags just whine.

 

[JKendallDane]

Ya know, James...before you actually cross that line where you are even more curmudgeonly and bitter than pilot, you should really make peace with yourself over that one circle jerk or one time "helping a buddy" you got off to back in the 1960's. It doesn't mean you "went gay" temporarily or anything.

Well, so long as you didn't have tongues in each other's mouths while you were yanking each other's puds.

 

[sr71plt]

Ya know, James...before you actually cross that line where you are even more curmudgeonly and bitter than pilot, you should really make peace with yourself over that one circle jerk or one time "helping a buddy" you got off to back in the 1960's. It doesn't mean you "went gay" temporarily or anything.

Well, so long as you didn't have tongues in each other's mouths while you were yanking each other's puds.

Interesting that you call me names and pull me into posts irrelevantly, but that I have never made such a juvenile assertion as this on the sexuality of any other Lit. poster, even JBJ. He can certainly be homophobic for effect, whether he believes it or not, without having anything like this in his past.

 

[Bramblethorn]

It's quite easy really. "His" and "her" are possessive pronouns, referring to male and female persons, respectively. "Husband" and "wife" are terms used to describe marital status, again for male or female persons, respectively. Hope that helped.

Oh, they are, but... I'm part of a marriage equality lobby group, I staff booths and write letters to politicians and so forth, and I still have a moment of "wait, what?" when somebody mentions a man's husband or a woman's wife. Followed by "Oh, yeah, some people are allowed to do that now!"

Even after having consciously rejected those rules, it's hard to shed the baggage of several decades of social conditioning. But I think most of us will get there.

 

[JackLuis]

Oh, they are, but... I'm part of a marriage equality lobby group, I staff booths and write letters to politicians and so forth, and I still have a moment of "wait, what?" when somebody mentions a man's husband or a woman's wife. Followed by "Oh, yeah, some people are allowed to do that now!"

Even after having consciously rejected those rules, it's hard to shed the baggage of several decades of social conditioning. But I think most of us will get there.

We need new words to shed these conditioned stereotypes. Husband and Wife in current context are gender specific. If we want to use a word that is not gender specific, we need to look at what it is we are trying to describe.

What are we trying to describe? Partnerships is the best current word I can think of, however how do we describe individual partners? Why do we need to?

Why do I care?

 

[CyranoJ]

I see there are people paying attention to JBJ.

So, okay, n00b question time: why does that ever happen? I'm not being funny.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I see there are people paying attention to JBJ.

So, okay, n00b question time: why does that ever happen? I'm not being funny.

Why do people go to the zoo or slow to look at wrecks?

 

[JKendallDane]

I see there are people paying attention to JBJ.

So, okay, n00b question time: why does that ever happen? I'm not being funny.

We have to acknowledge him every so often since he is Lit's version of Archie Bunker. No matter how many times you want to slap him upside the head, he is entertaining at times.

If nothing else, he leaves such great openings to be able to poke him back for the shitz~n~giggles factor. Sure he is the old guy that stands on his front porch and yells at all the kids to "get off my lawn" but he is also the type that slips you your first Playboy later.

Plus JBJ takes things without playing the sanctimonious victim card like our resident head curmudgeon who regularly attacks others but suddenly becomes holier-than-thou when his butt gets pinched.

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

We have to acknowledge him every so often since he is Lit's version of Archie Bunker. No matter how many times you want to slap him upside the head, he is entertaining at times.

If nothing else, he leaves such great openings to be able to poke him back for the shitz~n~giggles factor. Sure he is the old guy that stands on his front porch and yells at all the kids to "get off my lawn" but he is also the type that slips you your first Playboy later.

Plus JBJ takes things without playing the sanctimonious victim card like our resident head curmudgeon who regularly attacks others but suddenly becomes holier-than-thou when his butt gets pinched.

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Real men like me only cry when our dog's or ma dies. Everything else is just an inconvenience NOT a modern man 5 alarm 911 PTSD disaster.

 

[bygirl]

Thank you to those who help make this site a fairly safe place for LGBT individuals to communicate with each other despite a few consistent attackers who are called out and exposed by members for their hate speech. Many fear what they don't understand, or are envious of, so thank you to those who let us know they're fearful right up front.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Thank you to those who help make this site a fairly safe place for LGBT individuals to communicate with each other despite a few consistent attackers who are called out and exposed by members for their hate speech. Many fear what they don't understand, or are envious of, so thank you to those who let us know they're fearful right up front.

We understand it perfectly. You people are nature's freaks, like albinos and dwarfs. And your whole fucking existence is finding a new date.

 

[sr71plt]

We need new words to shed these conditioned stereotypes. Husband and Wife in current context are gender specific. If we want to use a word that is not gender specific, we need to look at what it is we are trying to describe.

What are we trying to describe? Partnerships is the best current word I can think of, however how do we describe individual partners? Why do we need to?

Why do I care?

I've already suggested spouse. I don't get married out of "partner," so that doesn't really substitute for husband and wife.

 

[bygirl]

You're right. We're in the minority, around 10-20 %. Aren't you concerned about your reputation? If you keep sniffing around all the LGBT posts, people might think you're one of us proud freak flag flyers!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You're right. We're in the minority, around 10-20 %. Aren't you concerned about your reputation? If you keep sniffing around all the LGBT posts, people might think you're one of us proud freak flag flyers!

You got the wrong guy.

 

[bygirl]

Did we just make a semblance of a joke? Ok, let's just agree to disagree. Life's too short not to be happy or as some would say... gay.

 

[Dyslexicea]

We need new words to shed these conditioned stereotypes. Husband and Wife in current context are gender specific. If we want to use a word that is not gender specific, we need to look at what it is we are trying to describe.

What are we trying to describe? Partnerships is the best current word I can think of, however how do we describe individual partners? Why do we need to?

Why do I care?

Obviously you care or you wouldn't have written what you did.

Although gender isn't as specific as you seem to believe, lets ignore that for now, defining a wife as a female identified person who is legally married and a husband as a male identified person who is legally married, hopefully not to his lawn mower(thank you congressmen King). Do you have a problem with my definition? I would think not!

When I refer to Jessica as my wife I am using the proper gender specific term, being we're both women doesn't change the gender of the term wife.

Although we wrote our own vows part of those vows included this “I, Diane, take you, Jessica, to be my lawfully wedded wife”, again the proper gender specific term.

The fact that you and others have trouble wrapping your minds around the fact that married couples can now be composed of two wives or two husbands doesn't change the gender of the words wife, a married woman or husband, a married man.

By the way you don't need any new terms to refer to our relationship, just like other married people we are a married couple.

You'll just have to adjust, those of us who have fought long and hard for equal justice aren't about to give up the words wife, husband, married or even spouse, live with it!