Character Creation, Conflicts, And Personality

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Too many stories at LIT impress me as communion wafer bland and Barbie'ish. Theyre sitcoms, really, and far removed from forms like Charles Dickens or Tolstoy wrote. Imagine what could be done with Pip, Estella, and Miss Havesham if LIT allowed GREAT EXPECTATIONS to be eroticized! Or TURN OF THE SCREW, which is underage incest beneath its paint. Its GHOST performed by children.

Personality is an arena academics battle on. Personality types come and go depending on how the brainiacs vote when the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual shrinks use is updated. I don't keep up with it anymore. In my lifetime homosexuality has gone from a depraved mental disorder to chic. But to my way of thinking Gay remains a satellite of Masochistic and Sadistic Personality Types regardless of its social/political status at the moment. A century ago sex with kids wasn't a problem for most people. If your sister died you placed her girls at a whore house, and apprenticed her boys.

My point is: Personality TAGS come in political flavors while maintaining a set of traits that are real stereotypes in spite of PC angst against stereotypes. And if your writing skills are inferior to Shakespeare youll likely default to the stereotypes I plan to illustrate.

TO BE CONTINUED

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY TYPES.

In a nutshell these people are criminals since childhood, or puberty if theyre females. They steal your heart, steal your wallet, steal your life. Rules and boundaries mean nothing to them. They open the door to opportunity the moment it knocks. Jail is their natural habitat. Theyre often addicts and alcoholics. ACT BEFORE YOU THINK, LEAP BEFORE YOU LOOK. Theyre impulsive.

When they have partners the partners are masochists, martyrs, and the devoted types who they cheat on: Teachers, nurses, therapists. They prefer sex with dramatic, mercurial, and antisocial personalities. Youre not likely to find them paired with vigilant, reclusive, weird, or obsessive people. Their ideal pair bond are pimp-hooker or cabbie-hooker.

Here's a real world scheme I knew of: The female, a psychologist, spent her career working at prisons. She wasn't beautiful but she was the only pussy in the place. So she fucked the most masculine inmates who then made her available to other men for stuff. That is, the bulls pimped her.

TO BE CONTINUED.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

DRAMATIC PERSONALITY TYPE

"The Attention Whore." "Drama Queen."

These folks do whatever it takes to draw all the attention to themselves. Lady Gaga comes to mind. They invented provocation, attraction, and marketing. They flatter, seduce, flaunt, and exhibit themselves as much as it takes to capture your attention. But you may not get laid, because the show is the whole deal, AND theyre emotionally chameleons who cant find the right mood. We call that LABILE. Their feelings are all over the map. About the time you slip your cock in her she's ready for something else. And she was sincere about wanting to fuck, but that was then. Theyre not really teases to bust your balls, she simply changed her mind. There's so much to do and so little time for it all.

Attention whores prefer self confident narcissists. The narcissist isn't upset if other men fuck her or flirt with her, the others validate the narcissists good taste.

Who are the male drama queens and attention whores? Fags.

 

[49greg]

DRAMATIC PERSONALITY TYPE

"The Attention Whore." "Drama Queen."

These folks do whatever it takes to draw all the attention to themselves. Lady Gaga comes to mind. They invented provocation, attraction, and marketing. They flatter, seduce, flaunt, and exhibit themselves as much as it takes to capture your attention. But you may not get laid, because the show is the whole deal, AND theyre emotionally chameleons who cant find the right mood. We call that LABILE. Their feelings are all over the map. About the time you slip your cock in her she's ready for something else. And she was sincere about wanting to fuck, but that was then. Theyre not really teases to bust your balls, she simply changed her mind. There's so much to do and so little time for it all.

Attention whores prefer self confident narcissists. The narcissist isn't upset if other men fuck her or flirt with her, the others validate the narcissists good taste.

Who are the male drama queens and attention whores? Fags.

Sounds like a mother and son I once knew. Don't think sex is involved, even now that her hubby is gone, But she demands that she be the center of attention, plays fast and loose with the truth and changes her opinion at will. The son thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and heaven forbid anyone slight him. And yes, there was speculation that he was involved in secret homosexual affairs, I could go on and on about that pair. I no longer have any face to face contact with them, and they don't know where I live.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Sounds like a mother and son I once knew. Don't think sex is involved, even now that her hubby is gone, But she demands that she be the center of attention, plays fast and loose with the truth and changes her opinion at will. The son thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and heaven forbid anyone slight him. And yes, there was speculation that he was involved in secret homosexual affairs, I could go on and on about that pair. I no longer have any face to face contact with them, and they don't know where I live.

Theyre a natural pair-bond. And that's the point of this thread. Barbie and Ken make poor porn. What matters is the fire beneath the pot. The 40 year old teacher wants that young criminal in her bed.

 

[49greg]

Theyre a natural pair-bond. And that's the point of this thread. Barbie and Ken make poor porn. What matters is the fire beneath the pot. The 40 year old teacher wants that young criminal in her bed.

Oh yeah, I had a few forty year old teachers I wanted to spend the night with, but alas I wasn't a young delinquent. Not that any of my teachers would ... would they?

It is interesting how much attention the media gives to those cases where a female teacher is caught in an affair with a young male student. And not just recently, back in the sixties I remember hearing about a kid in the forties who chased all over the country after adult women, ran off with a mother of other kids when he was in high school. The woo woo kid or some such. Apparently it made national headlines at the time. They made a movie about it later on, eighties or nineties I think.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Oh yeah, I had a few forty year old teachers I wanted to spend the night with, but alas I wasn't a young delinquent. Not that any of my teachers would ... would they?

It is interesting how much attention the media gives to those cases where a female teacher is caught in an affair with a young male student. And not just recently, back in the sixties I remember hearing about a kid in the forties who chased all over the country after adult women, ran off with a mother of other kids when he was in high school. The woo woo kid or some such. Apparently it made national headlines at the time. They made a movie about it later on, eighties or nineties I think.

I well recall a trial where a lesbian teacher attempted to terminate parental rights of her teen lover's parents. The whole fucking world loved the idea, including the sheriff and attorney generals office. I was the plaintiff on behalf of the teacher and LGBT mob. I thought it was insane, and asked the judge: AM I THE ONLY PERSON HERE WHO KNOWS THE PROPOSITION IS A FELONY SEX OFFENCE? THE KID IS A MINOR! THE JUDGE THREW THE CASE OUT. The faggots were outraged with me.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

THE MERCURIAL STYLE

When such people are taken away by the guys in the white coats the diagnosis is BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER. The tag doesn't mean theyre Taco Bell fanatics, it means theyre always psychotic or neurotic, sometimes both. That is, delusional plus in a panic.

Remember the movie FATAL ATTRACTION? Glenn Close played a Borderline/Mercurial woman. The rabbit died, indeed.

When I first went to work in mental health a colleague told me Borderline/Mecurial is the default setting for all American females, and he was right. Youre likely to be in her pants 5 minutes after you meet her, and out the door 5 minutes after you finish your cigarette. Their sentiments change like thermometers. And hell hath no fury like a mecurial female. You are both the best and worst lover she ever had. And your status changes in a heart beat, usually because a crazy idea popped into her brain or she thought of something that scared her.

I usta advise newbies about these people (almost all are female). I said, IF YOU FIND YOU WANNA STAB THEM THRU THE HEART WITH YOUR PENCIL 15 MINUTES AFTER THEY WALK IN THE DOOR, THE DIAGNOSIS IS BORDERLINE PERSONALITY. They are intense and over the top is where they always start.

The cops usta bring these women to the hospital, usually carried in by 4 men. The second the cops left the women removed their clothes, and often tried to rub their pussies against my face or rub their tits against my head. But in the next breath they'd shout, WHAT YOU LOOKING AT YOU PERVERT!

Mecurials seem to prefer men with vigilant personality style.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

And yet, that is all why I write erotica and I stick it here...

For gawkdsakes aren't there any people around who just do sex because of sex, without any other pretext?!

Not saying you're wrong at all - it's just that these days there seem to be so many more of these pathological types all over the place. They aren't interesting to me anymore; just annoying.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

And yet, that is all why I write erotica and I stick it here...

For gawkdsakes aren't there any people around who just do sex because of sex, without any other pretext?!

Not saying you're wrong at all - it's just that these days there seem to be so many more of these pathological types all over the place. They aren't interesting to me anymore; just annoying.

I'm right. I spent a career working closely with people, and I've never met one person who isn't a sick pup when it comes to their sexual interactions. With some, while youre in the bathroom shaving, brushing your teeth, and splashing Olde Seaman colon on your face, she shitting on your bed, to throw at you.....schizotypal personality or idiosyncratic type. Some pray to Jesus.

 

[lovecraft68]

Tbe people who on the surface are not pervs are the suppresed type that feel guilty over natural desires usually caused by religious guilt

Those are the ones who end up having the most sadistic fantasies...then feel even guiltier a vicious cycle

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Tbe people who on the surface are not pervs are the suppresed type that feel guilty over natural desires usually caused by religious guilt

Those are the ones who end up having the most sadistic fantasies...then feel even guiltier a vicious cycle

What I do is come-on to Jehovah's Witnesses, and they never stop at my house again.

 

[49greg]

THE MERCURIAL STYLE

When such people are taken away by the guys in the white coats the diagnosis is BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER. The tag doesn't mean theyre Taco Bell fanatics, .....

It wouldn't be mistaken for Taco Bell where I live, we have a pizza place called "Borderline Pizza". The name refers to the short distance to the Minnesota line rather than the quality of the pizza. But I'm sure I've seen some borderline personality types in there.

What I do is come-on to Jehovah's Witnesses, and they never stop at my house again.

I heard somewhere that if you tell them you're a staunch Catholic they leave you alone. And yes, I got horrified looks the first time and they left immediately, but they do come back. I'll have to try the come-one next time. Do you have to invite them in, or can you just make suggestions at the door?

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

I'm not sure exactly at what age I decided to actively go in search of the genuinely (to me) interesting personalities. I think quite late, and it was also a combination of making some independent money with which to fund this 'expedition,' not just the desire to steer clear of the abundantly available problem people.

On the one hand it may have been possible to exploit the psychopathology of so many people around me - one the other hand it obviously didn't appeal to me to do that.

'Scratch beneath the surface' is not always necessary - I'm not a pessimist; there are people who have organised their minds and their lives sufficiently enough not to be so psychologically problematic as the stereotypes suggest a lot or even most people are.

But, indeed they are few and far between. This has been my experience, certainly.

The problem as far as writing stories goes is with the commonplace ideology that crisis and conflict makes stories 'go.' What conflict? I never have experienced conflict with anyone that I actually got on with!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It wouldn't be mistaken for Taco Bell where I live, we have a pizza place called "Borderline Pizza". The name refers to the short distance to the Minnesota line rather than the quality of the pizza. But I'm sure I've seen some borderline personality types in there.



I heard somewhere that if you tell them you're a staunch Catholic they leave you alone. And yes, I got horrified looks the first time and they left immediately, but they do come back. I'll have to try the come-one next time. Do you have to invite them in, or can you just make suggestions at the door?

I know the Bible better than most JW's so I add to their presentations, and try and touch the lady JWs. Lady JWs tend to be submissives so the crew gets nervous and leaves.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

THE IDIOSYNCRATIC TYPE

We know them when we see them but theyre impossible to pigeon-hole because of their diversity. The diversity ranges from the religious mystic to the absent minded professor to the old lady who fills her freezer with dead cats. Could be a Mummer or a Hare Krishna or a Klansman with a burning cross.

When we speak of PSYCHOPATHS these folks are the people we speak of. They aren't necessarily lethal or dangerous but they sure as shit are different from Barbie and Ken and the Bradys. Billy Jack comes to mind.

Theyre in the news a lot. When an idiosyncratic type is put in charge of Multicultural Diversity Day at school it never occurs to her to have all the kiddies bring ethnic food to the diversity potluck in the school cafeteria. It never occurs to her to have the kiddies wear their ethnic costumes. No, she makes all participate in bizarre rituals and ceremonies that scare the crap outta Barbie and Ken. AFTER LUNCH, JOSE FROM GUATEMALA, WILL SHOW US HOW TO CUT OUT A BEATING HEART USING STONE KNIVES AS HIS ANCESTORS DID. WE NEED A VOLUNTEER! Or maybe she lets Jose demonstrate how to make cocaine from coca leaves.

Theyre not interested in sex. Who they need is someone to clean their robes and change the sheets while they read tea leaves and chicken bones.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

THE AGGRESSIVE TYPE to wit: Dom, Top Dog, Head Nigger in Charge, Cave Man

These people don't need lessons or hints for how to take charge, theyre born in charge. They lead, you follow. Theyre mostly males but a few are female tho these girls tend to use weapons and restraints to assert their dominance. Some wait till their man is drunk or asleep to kick his ass.

Dependent types like the Doms because Doms instinctively take charge and responsibility for whatever fun erupts. If she gets fucked who can fault her! He's so big or whatever.

I usta work with a Pollack guy named Frankie who was all muscle and taller sitting down than most people are standing up. He was a giant. He called all our black employees COONS and all the managers CUNTS. No one objected.

Anyway, one afternoon we're at a tavern and Frankie orders a Rolling Rock Cola. The gang laughed at him. So Frankie says LEMME TELL YOU PUSSIES A STORY ABOUT WHY I DONT DRINK NO MORE. ABOUT A YEAR AGO ME AND THE OLD LADY WENT OVER TO THE MAVERICK (a red neck bar). THAT WAS MY FIRST MISTAKE. GETTING SHIT-FACED WAS MY 2ND MISTAKE. My 3rd MISTAKE WAS WHEN MARILYN (his wife) TRIED TO GET ME TO GO HOME. I KNOCKED HER ON HER ASS. Marilyn was maybe 5-2, Frankie was above 6-5. He continued: MY NEXT MISTAKE WAS GOING HOME. I GOT IN THE BED, FELL ASLEEP, AND MARILYN JUMPED ATOP MY CHEST AND BEAT MY HEAD WITH AN IRON SKILLET.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hammer to the nail on that last one.

I come down to the floor at work and three alleged supervisors are standing around looking confused. I ask what's up and they tell me something went wrong.

"So what are you doing about it?"

"Umm, well....nothing yet."

"Why not?"

"Well if we do this then, if we do that then..." and more confusion.

I say

"Just do this."

Three nods and smiles and off they run.

They're not stupid, it falls to none of them wants to own it if they make the wrong choice so they wait for someone that they can tell the owner "so and so said" if there is an issue.

Some people grow to adulthood mentally, some stay in third grade.

I'll stop before I start going into Alpha's and lemmings....

Hey JB....do the psychic vampire next

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hammer to the nail on that last one.

I come down to the floor at work and three alleged supervisors are standing around looking confused. I ask what's up and they tell me something went wrong.

"So what are you doing about it?"

"Umm, well....nothing yet."

"Why not?"

"Well if we do this then, if we do that then..." and more confusion.

I say

"Just do this."

Three nods and smiles and off they run.

They're not stupid, it falls to none of them wants to own it if they make the wrong choice so they wait for someone that they can tell the owner "so and so said" if there is an issue.

Some people grow to adulthood mentally, some stay in third grade.

I'll stop before I start going into Alpha's and lemmings....

Hey JB....do the psychic vampire next

Sure, I ran into the same thing in Vietnam. We got a serious mortar attack and all the brass ran around with their hair on fire till a lowly grunt jumped atop a crate and screamed orders at them. They obeyed him.

OK! There's a personality that covers vampires and other animals.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

For Lovecraft68

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 4th Edition has no personality category for psychic vampires, so I made one up from personality types that exist and overlap and work together to make monsters: Sadistic Personality Type and Schizoid Personality Type.

What we have here is a violent loner....a serial killer without relationships or friends. He murders those who get close to him. Norman Bates comes to mind. But don't limit your imagination to blood and gore. The Psychic Vampire steals your happiness and contentment and peace of mind and other emotional states, like confidence, trust, love, hope, etc.

The only people they bond with is Ma, that is, The Devoted Style. And if Ma gets a hankering for sex or a husband or a friend, Norman will likely murder Ma and her friend. He killed his Ma in the movie when she got a boyfriend. Norman is a psychic zombie, his feelings are dead yet murderous.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

THE SELF ABSORBED STYLE

He knows what he likes and that's how its gonna be, and fuck you if you don't like it. Whatever he wants comes first.

I once worked with a guy named Paul. Paul had a problem arriving at work on time. He had no car because he preferred to buy pot rather than make car payments or buy insurance/make repairs when his momma bought him cars. He preferred to stay up late and sleep in. He refused to leave for work till his wife cooked him a full country breakfast. He was fired.

If you insist they do something they don't wanna do they'll fuck it up. If you loan them money they wont repay the loan cuz they wanna use the money for beer or pot or a trip to Disney World. And they always find willing patsies to help them out. America has more doormats and patsies than any other types. The self absorbed always marry doormats and patsies. On another board a doormat discovered her man is a closet fag. Now she's all hot to find him guys to fuck.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Any left brain/right brain stuff - I've noticed a lot of business guys are stuck in the right side a lot and then they get angry, or drunk.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Any left brain/right brain stuff - I've noticed a lot of business guys are stuck in the right side a lot and then they get angry, or drunk.

Theyre who we call obsessive, compulsive, conscientious, or anal. Depends on the degree of pathology. Are they fretting about stolen strawberries, wire hangers in the closet, a missing coin of no real value, or are they military drill instructors forcing lessons on undisciplined recruits.

Your sample of business guys need to learn LATERAL THINKING to allow themselves to escape rigid, orthodox methodology. Edward de Bono, MD, PhD invented it. He was a Brit flight engineer during WW2, and responsible for fixing in flight emergencies.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

I literally did know this one guy who used to worry about wire coat hangars in the closet.

We both worked for a particular government agency at the time and when we went on assignments in distant places, and stayed at hotels, he would check the closets, and count the coat hangars.

At the start he joked it off, but after a while I learned he used to go to this shrink about it. A female shrink. Whom he bedded because he was pretty good looking and no doubt highly sexed as far as I could tell. He would talk about the women he thought would be good to fuck if he made them bark like a dog.

Actually he was a really really nice sort of fellow. There were some pretty decent people in that organisation back then.

Not anymore.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Back then I never really thought about it as being stuck in the right brain, but now that I think back about it, although he was nice, I always thought he was a touch shallow.

On the other hand though - I am a touch sinister I suppose, from the ordinary person's perspective.