Republicans planning stealth attack on Social Security

[Lunarfaggot]

On Wednesday morning, the GOP-controlled Senate Budget Committee is set to hold a hearing entitled: “The coming crisis: Social Security Disability Trust Fund Insolvency.” The dry bureaucratic language masks the drama inherent in what could prove the first high-profile skirmish in a series of battles that could go a long way towards defining the new GOP Congress: Battles over the future of the safety net.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lth-attack-on-social-security-democrats-fear/

 

[aqwertyuiop]

Yeah, the Disability Fund has been robbed blind and is going broke in 12 months.

I think the attack has already been made by the leaches who have sucked it dry.

I doubt many of them were Republicans.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The reality of the situation is that tech-driven unemployment (ie, robots taking your job) is about to rise so far and fast that in a generation, you won't even recognize your father's "safety net" because a universal guaranteed income will have been enacted, with full backing of ruling elites, whose automated factories can't sell to people with no jobs and no money.

Read Martin Ford's "The Lights in the Tunnel".

We are in the middle of an epochal change in basic economic mores, away from "he who does not work shall not eat" to "90% of the populous is economically superfluous, how do we prevent societal collapse??".

 

[NeverEndingMe]

On Wednesday morning, the GOP-controlled Senate Budget Committee is set to hold a hearing entitled: “The coming crisis: Social Security Disability Trust Fund Insolvency.” The dry bureaucratic language masks the drama inherent in what could prove the first high-profile skirmish in a series of battles that could go a long way towards defining the new GOP Congress: Battles over the future of the safety net.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lth-attack-on-social-security-democrats-fear/

why did you have a job?
why didn't you save money?

 

[Ishmael]

The only people that give a shit are the parasites, the wannabe parasites, and the Democrats (who are also parasites). Society has no obligation to parasites.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

The reality of the situation is that tech-driven unemployment (ie, robots taking your job) is about to rise so far and fast that in a generation, you won't even recognize your father's "safety net" because a universal guaranteed income will have been enacted, with full backing of ruling elites, whose automated factories can't sell to people with no jobs and no money.

Read Martin Ford's "The Lights in the Tunnel".

We are in the middle of an epochal change in basic economic mores, away from "he who does not work shall not eat" to "90% of the populous is economically superfluous, how do we prevent societal collapse??".

No one seems to get that, the democrats least of all.

Ishmael

 

[pointless]

The only people that give a shit are the parasites, the wannabe parasites, and the Democrats (who are also parasites). Society has no obligation to parasites.

Ishmael

No one seems to get that, the democrats least of all.

Ishmael

anyone wanna point out what's wrong with this? no? that's understandable.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

anyone wanna point out what's wrong with this? no? that's understandable.

your kind needs to discover that welfare isn't a career - get a job

 

[Sean Renaud]

The democrats do have an answer. Guaranteed income.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

The democrats do have an answer. Guaranteed income.

because your kind is too lazy to work

 

[Sean Renaud]

Or too smart. As was mentioned above we are about to hit a storm. Work will be impossible for most people soon.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Or too smart. As was mentioned above we are about to hit a storm. Work will be impossible for most people soon.

do you need a milk bottle to suckle on, baby?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes, and you'll go fetch it because in America you're my bitch.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

about time you realized you were a baby

now grow up and get a real job and just say NO to welfare

 

[dolf]

naked superhero dude, what about people who are genuinely, seriously disabled for life?

 

[possum123]

The democrats do have an answer. Guaranteed income.

That sounds real intelligent. Wonder who came up with that brain storm?

 

[Ishmael]

naked superhero dude, what about people who are genuinely, seriously disabled for life?

They are screaming "Wolf" is all that's going on. The truly disabled will be unaffected by any of the changes.

What has been going on for the past 6 years is wholesale fraud. Able bodied individuals who, with the help of attorneys that have turned the process into their very own cash cow, have managed to get on the disability dole.

And Judging by how the alt that started this thread is splattering the board I'd have to say he's one of those fraudsters that is in danger of being kicked off the gravy train.

Ishmael

 

[BoyNextDoor]

There are no legitimately disable people! Their existence is a myth! A fraud perpetrated by lazy liberals who vote themselves pay raises by feigning birth defects, having Alzheimer's and getting limbs amputated.

 

[Saint Peter]

Will the Death Panel Judges be determining who is "truly disabled" or will they be busy killing off the old people?

 

[LadyVer]

anyone wanna point out what's wrong with this? no? that's understandable.

I think it was the wannabe parasites, instead of the actual parasites.

 

[Ishmael]

This is the problem.

72,000 fraud allegations alone last year. It's a lot easier to prevent them from ever obtaining the loot than it is recovering. The fact is the money will probably never be recovered and then there is the cost of the prosecution, incarceration, and supervision.

This is what the Republicans are addressing.

Ishmael

 

[Lunarfaggot]

Will the Death Panel Judges be determining who is "truly disabled" or will they be busy killing off the old people?

Obama hates old people.

 

[Sean]

This is the problem.

72,000 fraud allegations alone last year. It's a lot easier to prevent them from ever obtaining the loot than it is recovering. The fact is the money will probably never be recovered and then there is the cost of the prosecution, incarceration, and supervision.

This is what the Republicans are addressing.

Ishmael

Allegations.

Let's assume all those allegations were proven. What percentage of claims is that?

 

[bronzeage]

Whether a person is disabled in the United States depends upon three things.

1. What's wrong with you.
2. Where you live.
3. Your level of education.

You'll find very few bank vice president who have to give up vice presidenting because of some physical problem. He might have to give up tennis, but there's still golf. The guy who mows the putting greens doesn't have that option.

It's not just a matter of can you work, it's a question of can you do the work that you are qualified to do.

If you can't do the tennis type jobs, are there any golf type jobs in your area?

If you aren't able to work, you're disabled.

The disability issue has been contentious ever since conservatives realized working class people were using it more than wealthy people. It dovetails in with all the minimum wage and health insurance arguments, which run along the lines that if poor people don't want to be poor, they should work harder and become a bank vice president.

 

[Ishmael]

Whether a person is disabled in the United States depends upon three things.

1. What's wrong with you.
2. Where you live.
3. Your level of education.

You'll find very few bank vice president who have to give up vice presidenting because of some physical problem. He might have to give up tennis, but there's still golf. The guy who mows the putting greens doesn't have that option.

It's not just a matter of can you work, it's a question of can you do the work that you are qualified to do.

If you can't do the tennis type jobs, are there any golf type jobs in your area?

If you aren't able to work, you're disabled.

The disability issue has been contentious ever since conservatives realized working class people were using it more than wealthy people. It dovetails in with all the minimum wage and health insurance arguments, which run along the lines that if poor people don't want to be poor, they should work harder and become a bank vice president.

What a load of horse shit that is.

Fraud is fraud. It would seem to me that ALL elected officials would be concerned with anyone attempting to defraud the government and hence the taxpayer.

Of those 72,000 allegations this past year, if only half were to be found to have a basis in fact that represents $36 Million/mo. ($432 million/yr) that the taxpayer is being defrauded of. It doesn't have a fucking thing to do with politics, it has to do with criminal behavior.

Ishmael