Obama Vetos Keystone Pipeline Bill

[CandiCame]

It's up to the American market place to decide what is the best energy to use, not an Indonesian trained communist and his fellow travelers. This is supposed to be a free country.

I really want you to come to my house so I can force you to drink my water. The water that's poisonous. Because it's full of coal slurry.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's up to the American market place to decide what is the best energy to use, not an Indonesian trained communist and his fellow travelers. This is supposed to be a free country.

LOL....so how is that different from (R) doing the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING with coal and oil?

Hmmmm???

Are you even man enough to admit it's not? Do you have even the slightest shred of integrity? Cuz anyone with the tiniest fiber of it can admit (R) is just as much in oil/coals back pocket as (D) is 'green' energy sectors and neither give a rats fucking ass about the best energy policy for America? Come on...it's ok to admit (R) is something less that pure perfection in altruistic politics on Earth.

Or are you such a brainwashed partisan fuckwit you just keep deflecting all the hard questions with off topic "I hate Obama" rants?

 

[Adre]

LOL....so how is that different from (R) doing the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING with coal and oil?

Hmmmm???

Are you even man enough to admit it's not? Do you have even the slightest shred of integrity? Cuz anyone with the tiniest fiber of it can admit (R) is just as much in oil/coals back pocket as (D) is 'green' energy sectors and neither give a rats fucking ass about the best energy policy for America?

Or are you such a brainwashed partisan fuckwit you just keep deflecting all the hard questions with off topic "I hate Obama" rants?

My money's on 'partisan fuckwit.'

 

[BotanyBoy]

My money's on 'partisan fuckwit.'

IDK....for the first time in 7 years I saw the man admit he was mistaken the other day when the RWCJ bullshit he was peddling got point blank shut the fuck down. He usually just ignores whoever posted the commie manufactured propaganda (known as facts/evidence/records to the rest of us) then vanishes from the thread.

There could be a shred of hope yet....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's because a billionaire environmentalist pulls his strings, nothing more.

Ah, you mean the same way the billionaire Koch Bros. pull yours?

 

[BotanyBoy]

My money's on 'partisan fuckwit.'

Looks like you were right.

 

[FGB]

Oh, the pipeline will be built.

It's going to be needed for future business deals with Mexico and other More Southern American countries.

And that's all I got to say about that!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh, the pipeline will be built.

It's going to be needed for future business deals with Mexico and other More Southern American countries.

And that's all I got to say about that!

LOL no it won't B...you're done ....it's not happening.

 

[FGB]

LOL no it won't B...you're done ....it's not happening.

I will bet you a drink of your choice that within eighteen months it's a done deal.

Make my day!

 

[CandiCame]

I will bet you a drink of your choice that within eighteen months it's a done deal.

Make my day!

I'll bet you a glass of my water. Because then it'll be extra funny.

The implication here being that the loser has to drink it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I will bet you a drink of your choice that within eighteen months it's a done deal.

Make my day!

You guys have the majority....you ain't got 2/3's so unless you got some activist judges ready to nullify a veto and what it takes to run one over with some voodoo bullshit....it won't happen.

I don't drink and there is no way to collect but I'll take your bet.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Oh, the pipeline will be built.

It's going to be needed for future business deals with Mexico and other More Southern American countries.

And that's all I got to say about that!

Mexico exports oil. How would a pipeline in the U.S. facilitate that trade?

 

[CandiCame]

Mexico exports oil. How would a pipeline in the U.S. facilitate that trade?

It's not meant to be thought too hard on.

 

[FGB]

You guys have the majority....you ain't got 2/3's so unless you got some activist judges ready to nullify a veto and what it takes to run one over with some voodoo bullshit....it won't happen.

I don't drink and there is no way to collect but I'll take your bet.

If you win I will send you a Bottle of Qzarka water and a picture of me holding a sign stating "I FGB lost a bet with BotanyBoy ."

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you win I will send you a Bottle of Qzarka water and a picture of me holding a sign stating "I FGB lost a bet with BotanyBoy ."

Just post the pic on here...I'll do the same should I lose. AUG 2016....

 

[FGB]

Mexico exports oil. How would a pipeline in the U.S. facilitate that trade?

Well, now...That is a Question isn't it.

Just because you have oil doesn't mean it's the grade and type you would like to have...or can refine it.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

The POTUS gets to veto any bill passed by Congress. He does not even have to give a reason.

Apparently, in the United States of Republicanville the House of Representatives passes a bill, the Senate passes the same bill without fail, and the President has no choice but to sign it.

It's just a Constitution, fuck it, right?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Well, now...That is a Question isn't it.

Just because you have oil doesn't mean it's the grade and type you would like to have...or can refine it.

Mexico has refineries, too.

 

[FGB]

Mexico has refineries, too.

Dig deeper.

 

[luvslingerie200]

Interesting......

Obama killed a bill that would have forced the authorization of the Keystone XL pipeline, designed to bring crude from Alberta tar sands in Canada to refiners on the Gulf coast. The project would create 40,000 jobs in construction and pipefitting over the two years it would take to finish it.

For that reason, unions strongly backed the Keystone XL project, while environmentalists bitterly opposed it. Both of those are important constituencies for the Democratic Party, and the tension was reflected in the votes on the bill in both chambers. Twenty-nine House Democrats joined all but one of the House Republicans in passing the bill 270-152, while nine Senate Democrats joined all 53 GOP Senators for a 62-36 passage in the upper chamber.


The bipartisan nature of the vote represented, and perhaps underrepresented, the broad approval of Keystone XL among the American electorate. A CNN poll in January showed that 57 percent of Americans wanted it approved, while only 28 percent opposed it. The bill had majority or double-digit plurality support in almost every demographic – age, region, gender, income, education. Only among Democrats and self-described liberals did opposition exceed support, and in those cases only by single digits.

With this level of general agreement on a significant issue, one might think that a president who wants to find ways to “work together” with Republicans on bipartisan initiatives, as Obama repeatedly promised, would have signed the Keystone XL bill. That, however, assumes that Obama wants to “work together,” and actually supports moderate and bipartisan initiatives. This veto shows clearly that Obama, as Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said in his response to Obama’s action, is “a pawn of the radical Left.”

Obama has talked about generating jobs in America. The Keystone XL project would create tens of thousands of direct and indirect good paying jobs for the duration of its construction phase, and would continue to support job creation in Louisiana, a point Jindal emphasized in his response as well. "The President is shirking his responsibility to deliver good paying jobs to American workers,” he continued. “They are ready to work; they just need the Obama administration to get out of the way.”


The Obama administration has been dismissive of this claim, pointing out that the jobs would be temporary. That’s true – but the mythical “shovel-ready jobs” from Obama’s 2009 stimulus plan were just as temporary, if not more so, being mostly generated in public-infrastructure maintenance that only lasted a few months to a year. Plus, this project did not require massive government spending, as the companies that benefit from the pipeline would have funding most of the effort. It would cost Obama almost nothing to create those jobs other than the ink it took to affix his signature to the legislation.

 

[Sean Renaud]

^^^ In a fight between environmentalists and unions the unions MUST lose. It's rare I get to say I'm proud of Obama but goddamnit, good fucking job Mr. President.

It's up to the American market place to decide what is the best energy to use, not an Indonesian trained communist and his fellow travelers. This is supposed to be a free country.

Not in the real world it's not, in the real world our government MUST make that call because we are in no position to make it ourselves in most of the country. I don't get a choice as to what company provides my power, we allow electricity (and water and cable) monopolies because it would be horrific if all of them digging all over the place all the fucking time.

This is something we handle with government Comrade.

 

[CandiCame]

Living in coal country you have no idea how, on a personal level, that job creation thing aggravates the shit outta me. It's not the government's problem that you, as an individual, decided to dedicate your professional life to a dying industry.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Interesting......

Obama killed a bill that would have forced the authorization of the Keystone XL pipeline, designed to bring crude from Alberta tar sands in Canada to refiners on the Gulf coast. The project would create 40,000 jobs in construction and pipefitting over the two years it would take to finish it.

For that reason, unions strongly backed the Keystone XL project, while environmentalists bitterly opposed it. Both of those are important constituencies for the Democratic Party, and the tension was reflected in the votes on the bill in both chambers. Twenty-nine House Democrats joined all but one of the House Republicans in passing the bill 270-152, while nine Senate Democrats joined all 53 GOP Senators for a 62-36 passage in the upper chamber.


The bipartisan nature of the vote represented, and perhaps underrepresented, the broad approval of Keystone XL among the American electorate. A CNN poll in January showed that 57 percent of Americans wanted it approved, while only 28 percent opposed it. The bill had majority or double-digit plurality support in almost every demographic – age, region, gender, income, education. Only among Democrats and self-described liberals did opposition exceed support, and in those cases only by single digits.

With this level of general agreement on a significant issue, one might think that a president who wants to find ways to “work together” with Republicans on bipartisan initiatives, as Obama repeatedly promised, would have signed the Keystone XL bill. That, however, assumes that Obama wants to “work together,” and actually supports moderate and bipartisan initiatives. This veto shows clearly that Obama, as Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal said in his response to Obama’s action, is “a pawn of the radical Left.”

Obama has talked about generating jobs in America. The Keystone XL project would create tens of thousands of direct and indirect good paying jobs for the duration of its construction phase, and would continue to support job creation in Louisiana, a point Jindal emphasized in his response as well. "The President is shirking his responsibility to deliver good paying jobs to American workers,” he continued. “They are ready to work; they just need the Obama administration to get out of the way.”


The Obama administration has been dismissive of this claim, pointing out that the jobs would be temporary. That’s true – but the mythical “shovel-ready jobs” from Obama’s 2009 stimulus plan were just as temporary, if not more so, being mostly generated in public-infrastructure maintenance that only lasted a few months to a year. Plus, this project did not require massive government spending, as the companies that benefit from the pipeline would have funding most of the effort. It would cost Obama almost nothing to create those jobs other than the ink it took to affix his signature to the legislation.

You're supposed to attribute your cut and pastes

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Colum...-Demonstrates-Obama-s-Extremism-And-Hypocrisy

 

[dan_c00000]

. The project would create 40,000 jobs in construction and pipefitting over the two years it would take to finish it.

Your basic premise is wrong:

Using the State Department math, it’s safe to say nearly 4,000 construction jobs will be created, at least temporarily.

This was never about creating jobs. This was about energy companies who want to make more money. And if they have to destroy the environment to do it so be it.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

how long have you been a slave?

clearly, you want to get more oil from ISIS

fucking retard

Your basic premise is wrong:

Using the State Department math, it’s safe to say nearly 4,000 construction jobs will be created, at least temporarily.

This was never about creating jobs. This was about energy companies who want to make more money. And if they have to destroy the environment to do it so be it.