Islam could get better

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Spinoff from this thread.

What was actually said..

"Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ," Obama said Wednesday. "And in our home country, slavery, and Jim Crow, all too often was justified in the name of Christ."
Obama made the comments while giving a major speech on religion at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. Citing Islamic, Jewish, and Christian scripture, Obama touted his own faith.

"This prayer tradition has brought us together, giving us the opportunity to come together in humility before the Almighty and to be reminded of what it is that we share as children of God," he said. "And certainly for me this is always a chance to reflect on my own faith journey. No matter the challenge He has been there for all of us. He certainly strengthened me through the power of his spirit."

Obama went on to condemn violent jihadists who are "betraying" Islam. He specifically called out the Islamic State group that has "carried out unspeakable acts of barbarism" in the Middle East and the militants who recently massacred the employees of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

"This is not unique to one group or one religion," Obama cautioned. "There is a tendency in us, a sinful tendency, that can pervert and distort our faith. And in today's world when hate groups have their own Twitter accounts and bigotry can fester in hidden places in cyberspace, it can be even harder to combat such intolerance. But God compels us to try."


Where exactly did the President say anything wrong?

Now, I read that and I think, how fortunate we are, to have arrived at a point in history where horrible things done in Christ's name are almost all in the past! Not long past -- as recently as the 1960s some people were using the Bible and the "Curse of Ham" to justify racism -- but all of that has fallen by the wayside. Very infrequent murders of abortion providers are the only Christian atrocities that seem to happen any more.

I think Dar al-Islam is about where Christendom was in the 17th Century, when religious differences appeared to be worth fighting over. Christendom got better. It took a long time, but Christendom got better -- partly by becoming what we might now call more Christian, in the love-thy-neighbor ethical sense, but mainly by becoming less religious and more secular. Islam could get better, by that same route. And the modern age being what it is, it probably will not take another 400 years; all international cultural pressures tend in the direction of secularization. At some point in the future, the world's Muslims are going to look back at today's jihadism, ISIS, etc., the same way Christians look back at the 30 Years' War, wondering what all the fuss was about and why anybody thought this a war worth fighting.
 
Then I'll be surprised if any Muslim captive wants to trade ISIS captivity for Christian slavery.

Back in the 1850s plenty of free Negroes came South to trade freedom for slavery. Its in William Johnsons diary THE BARBER OF NATCHEZ. Johnson was an emancipated slave who went North, learned to be a barber, and came back to Mississippi to open a business and own slaves. More....plenty of slaves bought wives, sold their children, and sold the wives to buy young wives. It was common. Obamullah talks out his ass about slavery.

http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai/identity/text4/williamjohnsondiary.pdf

Johnsons Diary
 
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Islam cannot get better because the culture is economically backward and unable/unwilling to change.


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I don't play politics, never did and never will. But I know too many Muslims to not and try to defend their beliefs. I'll rather be a murder than I child molester anyday.
 
Spinoff from this thread.



Now, I read that and I think, how fortunate we are, to have arrived at a point in history where horrible things done in Christ's name are almost all in the past! Not long past -- as recently as the 1960s some people were using the Bible and the "Curse of Ham" to justify racism -- but all of that has fallen by the wayside. Very infrequent murders of abortion providers are the only Christian atrocities that seem to happen any more.

I think Dar al-Islam is about where Christendom was in the 17th Century, when religious differences appeared to be worth fighting over. Christendom got better. It took a long time, but Christendom got better -- partly by becoming what we might now call more Christian, in the love-thy-neighbor ethical sense, but mainly by becoming less religious and more secular. Islam could get better, by that same route. And the modern age being what it is, it probably will not take another 400 years; all international cultural pressures tend in the direction of secularization. At some point in the future, the world's Muslims are going to look back at today's jihadism, ISIS, etc., the same way Christians look back at the 30 Years' War, wondering what all the fuss was about and why anybody thought this a war worth fighting.


also, when Obama brought up the Crusades that was a TWO WAY deal. Islam was the other side doing very bad things too. Plus, Islam allows SLAVERY to this very day.
 
Islam still allows slaves

Then I'll be surprised if any Muslim captive wants to trade ISIS captivity for Christian slavery.

Back in the 1850s plenty of free Negroes came South to trade freedom for slavery. Its in William Johnsons diary THE BARBER OF NATCHEZ. Johnson was an emancipated slave who went North, learned to be a barber, and came back to Mississippi to open a business and own slaves. More....plenty of slaves bought wives, sold their children, and sold the wives to buy young wives. It was common. Obamullah talks out his ass about slavery.

http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai/identity/text4/williamjohnsondiary.pdf

Johnsons Diary


Obama defends Islam
 
I find it odd that not a single one of our keyboard brigade that wants to kill the Muslims, have picked up a weapon and headed over to Syria yet.

It's just mind-boggling.
 
Obama defends Islam

That's because he believes in freedom of religion, like the vast majority of this country. He does not defend or support the actions of lunatics and their acts of terror. Trying to link Obama to that in any way is absolutely ridiculous...

Theres a black guy running the country.. You racist assholes really need to get over it. :rolleyes:
 
That's because he believes in freedom of religion, like the vast majority of this country. He does not defend or support the actions of lunatics and their acts of terror. Trying to link Obama to that in any way is absolutely ridiculous...

Theres a black guy running the country.. You racist assholes really need to get over it. :rolleyes:

He's a Muslim butt boy.
 
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