The Isolated Political Blurt Thread

[RobDownSouth]

Can we assume the 28% is the Scaredy-Cat Vette demographic, in cahoots with some South Floridians that think they are going to get their plantations back?

Strange coalition: The bitter old white guys and the bitter old brown guys.

28%? Wasn't that exactly the same percentage of bitter-enders who thought Dubya was doing a heckuva job to the bitter end?

 

[Dumpington]

The Republican Party seems to have bounced back remarkably well since Bush left office, especially when you look at the results of last November's elections, with the G.O.P. taking control of the U.S. Senate, adding to their majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, adding several more Republican governors AND adding widespread strength to that party's state-house majorities!

Today reminds me a lot of Jimmy Carter's final two years in the White House. The Democrats controlled both the legislative & executive branches of the U.S. government when Carter won in '76, with the G.O.P. seriously crippled by the Watergate scandal & Nixon's resignation.

But Carter's inept leadership quickly reversed all that, and in 1984 Ronald Reagan landslided Carter from office with the incumbent president carrying only SIX STATES! Four years later, Carter's vice president would get landslided even WORSE, winning only ONE STATE to Reagan's 49! And four years after that, the Democrat's presidential candidate would carry only TEN states!

In three consecutive presidential election, the Democrats won a TOTAL of only 17-states! It'll be interesting to see what effect the Obama presidency will have on his party's future!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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The World Map, as seen by Fox News and its viewers.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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Literally hearing both sides.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Southern states still celebrate Confederate Robert E. Lee's birthday.
Do these people truly wish that slavery was still legal?

50 years of progress, gave everyone hope.

2014, and the right to vote is not protected.

Stevie Wonder wrote Happy Birthday, for M.L.K

You know it doesn't make much sense
There ought to be a law against
Anyone who takes offense
At a day in your celebration
'Cause we all know in our minds
That there ought to be a time
That we can set aside
To show just how much we love you

And I'm sure you would agree
It couldn't fit more perfectly
Than to have a world party
On the day you came to be

Happy birthday to you...

I just never understood
How a man who died for good
Could not have a day that would
Be set aside for his recognition

'Cause it should never be
Just 'cause some cannot see
The dream as clear as he
That they should make it become an illusion

And we all know everything
That he stood for time will bring
For in peace our hearts will sing
Thanks to Martin Luther King

Happy birthday to you...

Why has there never been a holiday, yeah
Where peace is celebrated
All throughout the world

The time is overdue
For people like me and you
Who know the way to truth
Is love and unity to all God's children

It should never be a great event
And the whole day should be spent
In full remembrance
Of those who lived and died for the oneness of all people

So let us all begin
We know that love can win
Let it out don't hold it in
Sing it loud as you can

Happy birthday to you...

We know the key to unify all people
Is in the dream that you had so long ago
That lives in all of the hearts of people
That believe in unity
We'll make the dream become a reality
I know we will
Because our hearts tell us so

Happy birthday
Happy birthday
Happy birthday

Song video at this link-

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...me-to-remember-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-Day-2015

 

[Dumpington]

How is celebrating Robert E. Lee's birthday seen as supporting slavery?

George Washington ALSO owned slaves --- does that mean that celebrating Washington's birthday is a sign of racism?

A lot of people also celebrate Barack Obama's birthday --- does that mean that they ALSO celebrate scandals, corruption, and foreign policy buffoonery such as we have all witnessed wholesale during this man's time in the White House?

Like him or not, Robert E. Lee was a great man in American history, and to equate him with slavery ignores history.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

How is celebrating Robert E. Lee's birthday seen as supporting slavery?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh because he fought for the side that supported its institution? For starters?

George Washington ALSO owned slaves --- does that mean that celebrating Washington's birthday is a sign of racism?

YUP.

A lot of people also celebrate Barack Obama's birthday

NO, "A LOT OF PEOPLE" DON'T.

--- does that mean that they ALSO celebrate scandals, corruption, and foreign policy buffoonery such as we have all witnessed wholesale during this man's time in the White House?

If they're living in Bizarro World like you are, sure!

Like him or not, Robert E. Lee was a great man in American history, and to equate him with slavery ignores history.

No, to not equate him with the slavery he fought for would be ignoring history.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

When Robert E. Lee’s wife, Mary, fled Arlington House at the start of the Civil War, she gave her personal slave, Selina Norris Gray, the keys to the mansion and responsibility for the grand house the Lees had lived in for 30 years.

Arlington House had Washington heirlooms because Mary Lee was the great-granddaughter of Martha Washington, the president’s wife. And Mary Lee’s father, George Washington Parke Custis, had been raised by the Washingtons.

A photograph is listed as "Gen Lees Slaves" fearures Selina Norris Gray, the older woman in the picture, and probably her children.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f85a62-4fc7-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html

There was little to distinguish this report from the many others published in the Carroll County Democrat except for one small detail: these slaves were owned by Colonel Robert E. Lee, of Arlington, Virginia.

Wesley Norris had fallen under Lee’s ownership following the death of Lee’s father-in-law, George Washington Parke Custis.
As executor of the will, Lee carried out its contents to the letter, much to the resentment of Custis’ slaves.

Slaves, Wesley Norris, his sister Mary, and his cousin-

Upon their return to Arlington, Norris alleged that Lee ordered the overseer to administer fifty lashes each to himself and to his cousin, and twenty to his sister Mary.

When the overseer refused, the county constable was called in to execute the order.

The portrait that Norris paints of his master is very different from the image of the benevolent slaveowner often invoked by Lee admirers. Norris writes:

Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams [the constable] to ‘lay it on well,’ an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.”

Among the verifiable fact Pryor found was the receipt book showing payment to the constable.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national...bobby-lee-and-the-peculiar-institution/61428/

The Custis family has a reputation for interracial dalliance," Pryor writes, "and many of the mulatto servants had clearly descended from illicit ties."

Racist, violent, and a rapist ? Some hero!

 

[Dumpington]

IrezumiKiss --- You're serious?

People who respect George Washington & Robert E. Lee are racists? Do you know how irrational that makes you sound? It also makes you sound a LOT like a "Blame America First" political-progressive who very likely supports our current president (even though you deny celebrating his birthday!)

President Abraham Lincoln opposed slavery, but as president he allowed it to continue existing in those states that hadn't seceded, even after he unveiled the Emancipation Proclamation.

So is Lincoln to be despised, as well?

Are you aware that EVERY nation on our planet has at one time or another practiced slavery? And there are Islamic nations that continue to allow it to exist within their borders, even today!

Or, as I strongly suspect, are you just against slavery practiced 150-years ago here in the United States?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

IrezumiKiss --- You're serious?

People who respect George Washington & Robert E. Lee are racists? Do you know how irrational that makes you sound? It also makes you sound a LOT like a "Blame America First" political-progressive who very likely supports our current president (even though you deny celebrating his birthday!)

President Abraham Lincoln opposed slavery, but as president he allowed it to continue existing in those states that hadn't seceded, even after he unveiled the Emancipation Proclamation.

So is Lincoln to be despised, as well?

Are you aware that EVERY nation on our planet has at one time or another practiced slavery? And there are Islamic nations that continue to allow it to exist within their borders, even today!

Or, as I strongly suspect, are you just against slavery practiced 150-years ago here in the United States?

Ah. I follow your selective whine to its logical conclusion, but you give me this tired bullshit canard.

"Every place on Earth practiced slavery in the past and some still do, so what's the big deal?"

Spoken like true white privilege. If I had a dime for every time I heard this excuse for cognitive dissonance concerning the impact and severity of the institution of chattel slavery in America, I'd be ten dollars short of Donald Trump's wallet.

 

[Dumpington]

IrezumiKiss --- There are two political parties in the United States, one that was founded in opposition to slavery (Republicans), while the other supported both slavery and afterwards segregation (Democrats).

If you really despise Robert E. Lee then there's no way you could support the Democrats, unless you're a hypocrite.

Islam still recognizes slavery in many Islamic-dominated nations. Do you support the growth of Islam? If you're a racist-hypocrite then you probably do.

"Just because Barack Obama's political party supported slavery, what's the big deal?"

Spoken just like a politically-progressive Democrat!

 

[Disgustipated]

IrezumiKiss --- There are two political parties in the United States, one that was founded in opposition to slavery (Republicans), while the other supported both slavery and afterwards segregation (Democrats).

If you really despise Robert E. Lee then there's no way you could support the Democrats, unless you're a hypocrite.

Islam still recognizes slavery in many Islamic-dominated nations. Do you support the growth of Islam? If you're a hypocrite then you probably do.

"Just because Barack Obama's political party supported slavery, what's the big deal?"

Spoken just like a politically-progressive Democrat!

I just can't. Holy shit.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I just can't. Holy shit.

This is why the political forum was made. To keep 5-watt lightbulbs like Dump from dumb-littering good spaces when he dumps.

It had to be done and we're the better for it.

 

[Dumpington]

IrezumiKiss --- Seriously, you support Democrat Party politicians like Barack Obama despite the FACT that Obama's party ran the south during the generation when the Ku Kux Klan dominated politics in that region and segregation was the norm?

Are you really OK with being a racist bigot, IrezumiKiss?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

IrezumiKiss --- Seriously, you support Democrat Party politicians like Barack Obama despite the FACT that Obama's party ran the south during the generation when the Ku Kux Klan dominated politics in that region and segregation was the norm?

Are you really OK with being a racist bigot, IrezumiKiss?

You're a dumbass, Dumpington.

But that's okay. Because the beauty of America is that you have the freedom to be a dumbass. Not only a dumbass, but the best dumbass you can be. Which is what you're striving for here, I can acknowledge. And praise.

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[IrezumiKiss]

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#YayACA
#GOPforObamaCare

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Once upon a time, Democrats were the party of slavery, states' rights, secession and nullification. After the Civil War and Reconstruction, the solid Democratic South sought the "Redemption" of the former Confederate states with the reestablishment of white supremacy through violence and voter suppression.

For a hundred years, the architects and enforcers of Jim Crow poll taxes and literacy tests, lynchings and cross-burnings, Klan rallies and White Citizens Councils, and segregation and separate-but-equal primarily called the Democratic Party their home.

But that was all before the Great Trade.

During the height of the civil rights movement in the middle of the 20th Century, the Republican and Democratic parties were transformed by the greatest swap of political philosophies, personalities and constituencies in modern history. The integration of the American military in 1948, the end of state-mandated separate but equal schooling with Brown v. Board of Education in 1954, the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965 upended both parties. The Democrats' slow but steady embrace of the civil rights movement and the GOP's response with its Southern Strategy literally changed the complexion of both parties.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...ats-and-the-Great-Trade-of-a-half-century-ago

Fact or Fiction ?

Ronald Reagan traveled to Philadelphia, Mississippi to kick-off his 1980 presidential campaign. There, where civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were slaughtered in 1964, Reagan declared "I believe in States' Rights."

State's Rights

States' rights were revived in the late 1940s over the matter of race. In the 1948 election, Democrat harry s. truman pushed for a more aggressive civil rights policy. Southern opponents, known as the "Dixiecrats," bolted the Democratic party and ran their own candidate, J. strom thurmond. Their "states' rights" platform called for continued racial segregation and denounced proposals for national action on behalf of civil rights. Reagan, who had denounced the so-called "welfare queen," the "strapping young buck" and declared the 1965 Voting Rights Act "humiliated the South," soon had more company among Southern conservatives in Republican ranks.

In 1983, Texan Phil Gramm joined the GOP. Eleven years later, Alabama's Richard Shelby followed suit. It's no wonder that casual race-baiting long-discredited notions like states' rights, secession, and nullification are now standard fare on today's Republican menu.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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"It's just a movie."

 

[JohnnySavage]

Just a point of order to Reece Filon - American Sniper was about a sailor, not a solider.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[Que]

It'll be the same campaign speech we have heard for 8 years running now.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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Prez' trolling game on fleek.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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Get 'em, Bam!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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It's on, baby.

 

[pointless]

yep. this is pretty shitty alright.