Swedish FM: Israel irritating allies over Palestine recognition

[Beco]

Swedish FM: Israel irritating allies over Palestine recognition
Diplomatic tensions between Israel and Sweden continue to peak after Palestinian recognition, with Sweden's Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom saying Israel has 'crossed all limits,'

Sweden's foreign minister said on Friday Israel had irritated close allies by over-reacting to Stockholm recognizing the state of Palestine, saying its rhetoric over the issue had "crossed all limits".

"It is unacceptable how they have been talking about us and everybody else," Margot Wallstrom said in an interview in daily Dagens Nyheter. "It has irritated not only us, but the Americans and everyone who has anything to do with them right now."

 

[RobDownSouth]

Over-reaction is what Israel does best. They've been the gold standard of "disproportionate response" since the end of Nazi Germany.

Off-topic, but what's with the Schwarzenegger av? You back at the gym?

 

[Beco]

Over-reaction is what Israel does best. They've been the gold standard of "disproportionate response" since the end of Nazi Germany.

Off-topic, but what's with the Schwarzenegger av? You back at the gym?

I recently watched Pumping Iron, classic....still holds up. Aside from banging his maid, I love Arnold!

 

[lovecraft68]

I recently watched Pumping Iron, classic....still holds up. Aside from banging his maid, I love Arnold!

I liked pumping Irene better starring peter North.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

I recently watched Pumping Iron, classic....still holds up. Aside from banging his maid, I love Arnold!

It is a good movie. The mind games he plays on Lou Ferrigno are incredible.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Back when we thought with our dicks first, then our minds fourth, overwhelming force was our response too

That's better.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Back when we had real leaders, overwhelming force was our response too; Then you were born.

It's amazing you didn't make general in the Marines, as smart as you are.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Back when we had real leaders, overwhelming force was our response too; Then you were born.

And back then we had major wars like clock work. Our way of thinking has kept the global peace since before you were even born. So. . .yeah. Not going back to the bad old days.

 

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[FGB]

Oh, I don't know. Might just as well recognize those ISIS people or whom ever they are it is the same thing ...They don't have a country either and are trying to take over other peoples land.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

What major. . .or even official war have we had since then? As bad as Vietnam and Korea were they don't stack up against WWI, WWII, the Spanish American, the Mexican American (and that's just wars we were involved with) wars. The Napoleonic Wars.

The mere idea of Europe going to war with each other is utterly unthinkable in part because after WWII we didn't just fuck Italy and Germany. America and Europe spent half a century making faces at each other but never pulled the trigger and sure part of that was the threat of nukes but I doubt either side would have nuked if the others had shown up in person for our proxies.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Oh, I don't know. Might just as well recognize those ISIS people or whom ever they are it is the same thing ...They don't have a country either and are trying to take over other peoples land.

What precisely would be the downside to that actually?

You're full of shit Sean, Up until the first desert war, all of our major wars were Democrat wars. Your way of thinking killed more Americans than my way of thinking, by a huge amount.

Who cares if they were Democrat Wars (and the first Desert War wasn't a major war)

There was a time when everybody, Democrat and Republican, Liberal and Conservative thought like you. And then we got better. (To say nothing of the massive shift in Democrats and Republicans in the 60's) But that' actually immaterial.

 

[sexnovella]

It's too early since both sides are at war and the peace is most important.

It's too early since both sides are at war and the peace is most important.

 

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[Beco]

Two state solution??? right....

Over-reaction is what Israel does best. They've been the gold standard of "disproportionate response" since the end of Nazi Germany.

Off-topic, but what's with the Schwarzenegger av? You back at the gym?

AFP, Gaza City
Thursday, 18 December 2014
A small Islamic militant group claimed responsibility Thursday for a bomb attack that slightly damaged the French Cultural Center in Gaza City last week without causing any casualties.

Jund Ansar Allah is one of five groups in the Gaza Strip that subscribe to the Salafist version of Sunni Islam, an ultra-conservative strain of the religion.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Who got better, and when did we get better. We've been at war every year of the Obama Presidency, despite his surrender...he's too dumb to know the enemy gets a vote on when the war is over.

Immediately following WWII for all intents and purposes. We haven't been at war, not technically as it was never declared, and in real terms. They are never going to hurt us (and couldn't to begin with) and we aren't trying to hurt them despite the harm that we're doing.

Obama didn't surrender however, it would be nice if he had since the enemy really doesn't get a vote when you can take your toys and go home beyond their reach.

Still Even if you want to count Iraq as a war it really is America bullying a tiny nation. Not something that can be compared to the World Wars, or Napoleonics or really any of the wars that involved Europe as a whole.

 

[Beco]

Immediately following WWII for all intents and purposes. We haven't been at war, not technically as it was never declared, and in real terms. They are never going to hurt us (and couldn't to begin with) and we aren't trying to hurt them despite the harm that we're doing.

Obama didn't surrender however, it would be nice if he had since the enemy really doesn't get a vote when you can take your toys and go home beyond their reach.

Still Even if you want to count Iraq as a war it really is America bullying a tiny nation. Not something that can be compared to the World Wars, or Napoleonics or really any of the wars that involved Europe as a whole.

Iraq 1 &2 was a war, and Afghanistan was a war.... you're daft

 

[Sean Renaud]

Iraq 1 &2 was a war, and Afghanistan was a war.... you're daft

I don't recall Congress declaring either, but that still doesn't make them wars on a similar scale to what happened regularly in the past.

 

[Beco]

I don't recall Congress declaring either, but that still doesn't make them wars on a similar scale to what happened regularly in the past.

All of those were military engagements authorized by Congress, same thing

 

[Sean Renaud]

All of those were military engagements authorized by Congress, same thing

Not technically they aren't. But lets say that they are for the sake of argument.

Cooperative alliances between countries, such as the United Nations and the European Union, also represent an increase in trust and good faith. Sharing military responsibility for international conflicts, implementing a common currency and establishing international tribunals all point to a desire for stability and peace. Vaccines and other medical innovations have improved our quality of life, and education is available to more people than ever before.

Despite all the drawbacks of modern living, we really are living in the most peaceful time in recorded history. But remember, it's all relative. Even more peaceful days may be yet to come.

So, sorry. And it's not just less war, less violent crime as a whole. The world is simply a better place now than it was before. We can credit whoever and whatever you would like but none of that changes the fact that what we're doing now is clearly working better than anything that has been tried before.

 

[Disgustipated]

Who got better, and when did we get better. We've been at war every year of the Obama Presidency, despite his surrender...he's too dumb to know the enemy gets a vote on when the war is over.

Agreed. So are you happy about that or not?

 

[Beco]

Uh oh...

BEIRUT — An Israeli strike in Syria on Sunday killed the son of a slain top Hezbollah commander and another four fighters in a move that could ratchet up tensions with the powerful Lebanese Shiite movement, which recently boasted of rockets that can hit any part of the Jewish state.

Hezbollah fighters in towns and villages along the border with Israel went on high alert, said an official from the group. In the Shiite-dominated areas of south Lebanon and Beirut the streets emptied quickly, as residents feared an escalation. Hezbollah-run al-Manar TV warned that Israel was “playing with fire that puts the security of the whole Middle East on edge.”