At least 11 Dead in Paris

[Jessie_Pinkman]

in my opinion, there can be only two solutions.....only two.....

One, a complete capitulation to Islam And hope they will treat us kindly

Two, annihilation of Muslims in host countries....

Yes!

Let's do that.
There are only about 1.6 billion followers, less than a quarter of earth's population.

I wonder if we can replicate Auschwitz, only x10,000% in size?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I wonder when the fog of denial that is distorting the sight of western civilization is going to blow away and we begin to confront Islam for what it is? Every time a horrific act like this occurs the usual suspects trot out their mantra's of "Islam is a religion of peace" in spite of 1300 years of history to the contrary. Or "not all Muslim's are terrorists", which is true on the surface. But huge numbers of those non-terrorists are enablers of terrorism.

Every act of conciliation on the part of the apologists have been met with escalating acts of terrorism. Rather than being placated they have been emboldened even further. Yet many of us, and way too many holding the reins of power continue to try to walk the path of Chamberlain.

When is the West going to shake off this lethargy and realize that we are at war and treat it as such?

Ishmael

Blah blah fucking blah.

Every time some religious extremist gets in the headlines, your ever-predictable response is to denigrate all Muslims.

 

[Libsam]

Did y'all hear that a woman let them in the building?
They accosted her outside at gun point, she typed in the security code and let them in... she lived.

Also, has anyone noticed how many videos of the this incident are floating around the internet? If one of those people had a gun instead of a smart phone...

Oh and 3 cops rolled up to the scene on their bicycles, but they had to leave because French police don't carry guns...

 

[Que]

Did y'all hear that a woman let them in the building?
They accosted her outside at gun point, she typed in the security code and let them in... she lived.

Also, has anyone noticed how many videos of the this incident are floating around the internet? If one of those people had a gun instead of a smart phone...

Oh and 3 cops rolled up to the scene on their bicycles, but they had to leave because French police don't carry guns...

She should have assumed she would be killed anyway and refused. Much easier said then done. I think she had her child with her as well.

 

[Libsam]

She should have assumed she would be killed anyway and refused. Much easier said then done. I think she had her child with her as well.

Oh, she had a kid with her... that does change my opinion.

 

[Noor]

You disappoint me.....you can't be that dense

What does it tell you that the Times changed the story?

LOL! You seriously think everyone believes the NY Times? All the news that fits, they print? It tells me the NY TImes is still the NY Times. The only part of it I take seriously is Bill Cunningham's On the Street

Get a grip! I know you like me

 

[Que]

Oh, she had a kid with her... that does change my opinion.

Not sure. I thought I read that in an early report.

 

[PullnPray]

This thread has now generated almost 250 responses. But only one at 197 on page 8 has suggested a solution (colddiesel).

His solution is terrifying - literally so because it advocates a massive, deliberately over the top response aimed at the heart of Islam, Saudi Arabia. But is there any other kind of response which might work? Talking to these people won't work - In any case who do you talk to?

There is no solution to the problem that doesn't sacrifice cherished principles. All we can do is hope that Islam figures a way to reform itself and stop breeding terrorism before one of these terrorist organizations manages to acquire nuclear weapons. Given the rate of technological proliferation, I'm not optimistic. If terrorists start destroying entire cities instead of just buildings, we'll have to choose between our survival and our principles.

 

[PullnPray]

From the Onion:




No One Murdered Because Of This Image
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/18/18053/16x9/700.jpg?1577

WASHINGTON—Following the publication of the image above, in which the most cherished figures from multiple religious faiths were depicted engaging in a lascivious sex act of considerable depravity, no one was murdered, beaten, or had their lives threatened, sources reported Thursday. The image of the Hebrew prophet Moses high-fiving Jesus Christ as both are having their erect penises vigorously masturbated by Ganesha, all while the Hindu deity anally penetrates Buddha with his fist, reportedly went online at 6:45 p.m. EDT, after which not a single bomb threat was made against the organization responsible, nor did the person who created the cartoon go home fearing for his life in any way. Though some members of the Jewish, Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist faiths were reportedly offended by the image, sources confirmed that upon seeing it, they simply shook their heads, rolled their eyes, and continued on with their day

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This thread has now generated almost 250 responses. But only one at 197 on page 8 has suggested a solution (colddiesel).

His solution is terrifying - literally so because it advocates a massive, deliberately over the top response aimed at the heart of Islam, Saudi Arabia. But is there any other kind of response which might work? Talking to these people won't work - In any case who do you talk to?

Small scale responses won't work either. Maybe a reprise of the 1492 solution would work. Ferdinand and Isabella evicted all the Moslems (and Jews) from Spain successfully. Proportionately, to evict all Moslems from Europe (and USA) would be a smaller task today.

A start might be to deny all social services, unemployment pay, and any kind of government benefit to any citizen not willing to acknowledge and affirm the national laws as the only applicable legal system.

Would any 'reasonable' solution work or will western governments eventually be forced to take 'unreasonable' actions?

What are your realistic solutions - not dreams - no more rants from either right or left, but realistic solutions?

I proposed a solution in busybody's thread.

The answer for all religions seeking to become a dominant political course is the Diaspora. Then they have to internalize their religion. Take Mecca, occupy it, destroy the pagan meteorite and erect a church on the site. Give them their come to Jesus moment so necessary to peaceful coexistence.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Realistic solutions by necessity are going to be brutal and bloody.

As far as oaths and affirmations go, the fundamentalist Muslim is going to lie. As part of their faith, lying to an infidel or barbarian is NOT a sin. To them it's roughly akin to lying to a dog. Any ruse, betrayal, or lie is perfectly fine if it furthers their goals. A trait that makes them especially dangerous when attempting to deal with them on a diplomatic basis.

And it's not the Saudis that are the problem, it's their partners the Wahhabi's that are. Saudi Arabia is a bifurcated nation when it comes to governance. The royal family are the 'front men' and in reality have been good partners on the international scene, the Wahhabi's are the power behind the throne, the royal family deals with the secular, the Wahhabi's the divine. Should either side act against the other the kingdom will fall into anarchy and civil war. A state of affairs that no one wants to see except the fundamentalists. They will do anything to gain control of Mecca.

Getting back to dealing with the problem, because the fundamentalist will lie to avoid detection how do you know which Muslim is truly a Muslim that is content to live within the laws of the nation in which they reside?

Ishmael

The answer is that it is not a purely religious movement any more than the Crusades were launched to keep the Franks from continually plundering each other:

It's in the writings and the life of he who cannot be depicted.

When weak, be nice loving and tolerant.
When you get a little stronger, start asking for special privileges.
When you get them and are a little more numerous, demand them and threaten violence.
Once you are in the majority, everyone else must convert, submit, pay a tax and be invisible, or simply be killed.

How hard can it be for people to not get Islam? Take the Jews of Medina, in Saudi Arabia, for example, first they sheltered he who can not be depicted, and now they can't even board a Delta flight...
A_J, the Atheist

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I wonder when the fog of denial that is distorting the sight of western civilization is going to blow away and we begin to confront Islam for what it is? Every time a horrific act like this occurs the usual suspects trot out their mantra's of "Islam is a religion of peace" in spite of 1300 years of history to the contrary. Or "not all Muslim's are terrorists", which is true on the surface. But huge numbers of those non-terrorists are enablers of terrorism.

Every act of conciliation on the part of the apologists have been met with escalating acts of terrorism. Rather than being placated they have been emboldened even further. Yet many of us, and way too many holding the reins of power continue to try to walk the path of Chamberlain.

When is the West going to shake off this lethargy and realize that we are at war and treat it as such?

Ishmael

You saw chipbutty. They have already achieved their aims by terror. Many of us are terrified at the thought of blaming the religion. You can hate a conservative to your dying day for one offensive phrase or thought, but Islam but always have the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Busybody]

LOL! You seriously think everyone believes the NY Times? All the news that fits, they print? It tells me the NY TImes is still the NY Times. The only part of it I take seriously is Bill Cunningham's On the Street

Get a grip! I know you like me

yes, the world reads it

 

[Busybody]

France rounds up 900 Islamic terror suspects

In the three days since the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris, the French authorities have rounded up 900 individuals across France on suspicion of involvement in Islamic terror, DEBKAfile reports. The detentions on an unprecedented scale for France continues.

why do they allow em IN??????????????

 

[Busybody]

The Islamist brothers barricaded in factory with hostages


Conflicting reports of people killed in a shootout Friday at an industrial estate outside Dammartin-en-Goele northeast of Paris, where the two Charlie Hebdo killers who are barricaded with hostages in a factory. There are first reports of negotiations between police and the terrorists. At least a thousand police have been mobilized with helicopters to the area in an operation to detain the terrorists. Roads to and from the town ae blocked. Residents of Dammartin-en-Goele are advised to stay indoors. The Kouachi brothers are reported to have hijacked a car from a woman before taking hostages. Two air flights have aborted landings at Charles de Gaulle international airport nearby..

 

[Busybody]

Britain's MI5 chief warns al Qaeda in Syria planning mass attacks on West

yet we all scream ITS NOT ISLAM

don't we KNOW what to do? isn't the answer SIMPLE?

round up MUSLIMS....either deport or KILL em and don't let ANY IN

its simple



or DIE

 

[Busybody]

JSuis Charlie. “The brave social(ist) justice warriors are ever ready to speak truth to the power that will not hurt them.

Towards Islam, otoh they adopt the crouching position and kiss the terrorists’ gangrenous blood-soaked pudenda.”

They scream about WAR ON WOMEN....but ignore MUSLIMS and ISLAM

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

How many of the posters that still have yet to offer even a moment of sympathy for those killed in the attack and their families are now advocating for genocide of an entire religious group, diaspora, or mass incarceration of same?

I find it sort of concerning that of all people, one who claims Jewish descent would advocate the cleansing of an entire religion. Likewise talk of diaspora, which translates to "scattering"'. How does one "scatter" 1.6 billion people which are already scattered over the entire world? Unless of course they are speaking only of scattering the middle eastern population, which would require first an overthrow of their governments and forced occupation, following a crusade of course.. Or simply war if crusade bothers you so much.

Then there's the people who "only" advocate for mass incarceration or expulsion of people from their country based on religion. That's the same sort of mentality that led to the imprisonment of Asian Americans who had done nothing but be the wrong ethnicity. The same sort of mentality which allowed the rise to power of Hitler in Germany and the religious persecution and cleansing that followed.

 

[Busybody]

How many of the posters that still have yet to offer even a moment of sympathy for those killed in the attack and their families are now advocating for genocide of an entire religious group, diaspora, or mass incarceration of same?

I find it sort of concerning that of all people, one who claims Jewish descent would advocate the cleansing of an entire religion. Likewise talk of diaspora, which translates to "scattering"'. How does one "scatter" 1.6 billion people which are already scattered over the entire world? Unless of course they are speaking only of scattering the middle eastern population, which would require first an overthrow of their governments and forced occupation, following a crusade of course.. Or simply war if crusade bothers you so much.

Then there's the people who "only" advocate for mass incarceration or expulsion of people from their country based on religion. That's the same sort of mentality that led to the imprisonment of Asian Americans who had done nothing but be the wrong ethnicity. The same sort of mentality which allowed the rise to power of Hitler in Germany and the religious persecution and cleansing that followed.

STFU and DROP DEAD!

 

[Busybody]

Mainstream Media Effectively Sides With Muslim Terrorists Following Charlie Hebdo Massacre
http://moonbattery.com/graphics/media-bowing-to-islam.jpg

At least there is a thin silver lining to the horrific Charlie Hebdo massacre. After this, no one is likely to waste misplaced respect on the crawling cowards who constitute the mainstream media.


In its breaking news coverage of the Paris killings at Charlie Hebdo magazine, “Fox & Friends,” the morning show of Fox News, showed a shot of one of the magazine’s controversial cartoons. Yet the network, according to a spokeswoman, has “no plans” to show further examples. Fox News’s decision falls in line with those of other cable news outlets. As reported earlier here and here, CNN has cropped out the provocative drawings from its coverage of the killings. And in an extensive rundown of the news media’s approach to the matter, Rosie Gray and Ellie Hall of BuzzFeed note this policy at the NBC family: “Our NBC News Group Standards team has sent guidance to NBC News, MSNBC, and CNBC not to show headlines or cartoons that could be viewed as insensitive or offensive.”

By characterizing even the bland Danish cartoons as “insensitive or offensive,” they are siding with the terrorist butchers, whose objective was to establish anything they don’t want people to see as insensitive or offensive and therefore unpublishable. Alleged “journalists” have submitted to sharia out of sheer moonbattery and cowardice, the two most despicable motives conceivable.

Speaking of despicable, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer explicitly denounced Charlie Hebdo for offending the delicate Islamic maniacs:


Reporting live on CNN, Wolf Blitzer accused Charlie Hebdo of occasionally going “over the line” in their satirical criticisms of current events.

The comment came as Blitzer was detailing the Islamic terrorist attack against the Charlie Hebdo office, which resulted in the deaths of 10 staff members and two police officers.

Similarly, Associated Press doesn’t have the character to come near the cartoons:


“None of the images distributed by AP showed cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad,” an Associated Press spokesman said, according to the Daily Beast. “It’s been our policy for years that we refrain from moving deliberately provocative images.”

However,


in case you want to admire the “work of art” from three decades ago that consisted of a photograph of a crucifix in a vat of the photographer’s urine, the AP will sell it to you.

Christians are the good guys. Therefore it’s okay to offend them, since they aren’t going to kill anyone over it. Besides, as a rule liberals don’t like Christians, whereas ever since September 11, 2001 they have adored Muslims.

The New York Daily News and The Telegraph also earn prominent spots on the dhimmi coward dishonor roll.

Obviously, scuttling cockroaches like Wolf Blitzer cannot do their job of informing the public about the Charlie Hebdo massacre without showing us the otherwise harmless cartoons that inspired it. But if you want real news rather than liberal propaganda, you are left with the alternative media anyway. Liberal propaganda entails slavish support for Islam.

 

[oggbashan]

France rounds up 900 Islamic terror suspects

In the three days since the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris, the French authorities have rounded up 900 individuals across France on suspicion of involvement in Islamic terror, DEBKAfile reports. The detentions on an unprecedented scale for France continues.

why do they allow em IN??????????????

Allow them in?

I know you are stupid, but that stupid?

The suspects in the Charlie Hebdo killings are French citizens, born in France to French citizen parents.

The majority of Muslims in France are French citizens, born in France. Before 1962, Algeria was considered part of France, as much French as Alaska is part of the United States. After De Gaulle pulled France out of Algeria, many Algerians who had been supporting the French had to flee to France.

 

[Busybody]

Yes, Oggy.....they came back from Jihad


Yes, many r born there

Kick em all out

Or

Kill em all

 

[Busybody]

Allow them in?

I know you are stupid, but that stupid?

The suspects in the Charlie Hebdo killings are French citizens, born in France to French citizen parents.

The majority of Muslims in France are French citizens, born in France. Before 1962, Algeria was considered part of France, as much French as Alaska is part of the United States. After De Gaulle pulled France out of Algeria, many Algerians who had been supporting the French had to flee to France.

Ok, Mrs Smarty

What would you do

Assuming you think there is problem

 

[miles]

France is seeing the end result of a "diverse"culture, and now they're in a world of shit.

 

[RobDownSouth]

How many of the posters that still have yet to offer even a moment of sympathy for those killed in the attack and their families are now advocating for genocide of an entire religious group, diaspora, or mass incarceration of same?

I find it sort of concerning that of all people, one who claims Jewish descent would advocate the cleansing of an entire religion. Likewise talk of diaspora, which translates to "scattering"'. How does one "scatter" 1.6 billion people which are already scattered over the entire world? Unless of course they are speaking only of scattering the middle eastern population, which would require first an overthrow of their governments and forced occupation, following a crusade of course.. Or simply war if crusade bothers you so much.

Then there's the people who "only" advocate for mass incarceration or expulsion of people from their country based on religion. That's the same sort of mentality that led to the imprisonment of Asian Americans who had done nothing but be the wrong ethnicity. The same sort of mentality which allowed the rise to power of Hitler in Germany and the religious persecution and cleansing that followed.

Well said. *standing ovation*

I predict Zipman (aka 4est_Gump-with-a-yarmulke) will be around shortly to call you an anti-Semite.