Twenty States Will Raise Their Minimum Wage on January 1st

[RobDownSouth]

Twenty states are set to raise their minimum wage on January 1st.

Glibertarians are verklempft.

Virtually none of the old Confederate States will raise their minimum wages, of course.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I was actually surprised to see Florida on that list.

 

[Busybody]

Twenty States Will Raise Their Minimum Wage on January 1st

excellent news for the two of you

 

[RobDownSouth]

Twenty States Will Raise Their Minimum Wage on January 1st

excellent news for the two of you

If this Obama Recovery keeps up, pretty soon even chronically unemployed layabouts like YOU will be able to get a job!

 

[Busybody]

If this Obama Recovery keeps up, pretty soon even chronically unemployed layabouts like YOU will be able to get a job!

https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/laugh-jpg.173197/

 

[FGB]

Interesting I wonder if people are less down south?

Certainly the cost of living varies from place to place.

 

[PoppingTom]

.... verklempft.

I like that word!

 

[mikey2much]

the south has its own set of demons

I think it is because we have grown up in a system that longs for the past plantation days, when blacks were slaves and whites ran everything.

It was never like that.

The south was really closer to Ireland than to the fairy tale world the southerner likes to remember. With a rich plutocracy and a everybody else a hired hand or a slave.

After the end of slavery, the vast numbers of unemployed blacks kept the southern men from the benefits of unions. A common saying from the sixties was, "Do your job with vim and vigor, or you'll be replaced with a big black niggar".

Today the fear of the black man's political power is driving the frightened southern voters to vote against their own best interest. They are totally incapable of understanding that they are all 'niggars' to the wealthy.

Florida is different only because of the number of yankees that retire down here.

I love the southern people, they are a hard working and long suffering people but they have problems that they seem to be unable to deal with.

I hope some day they are able to rise above their racist views and join with the black southerners to make a better life for all.

As long as they listen to the veiled racism of the republican right they have little hope of improvement.

 

[Jennifer]

I was actually surprised to see Florida on that list.

I was too, they are rocking a huge $0.12 increase. At least it's something, unlike my miserable state of Pa.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I was too, they are rocking a huge $0.12 increase. At least it's something, unlike my miserable state of Pa.

I honestly thought you were kidding us about the 12 cent raise.

Sadly, you weren't.

A whopping $4.80 per week raise for minimum wage workers.

Murica....Fuck Yeah!

 

[Jennifer]

I honestly thought you were kidding us about the 12 cent raise.

Sadly, you weren't.

A whopping $4.80 per week raise for minimum wage workers.

Murica....Fuck Yeah!

I never joke about money.

 

[CandiCame]

I knew it wouldn't be mine before I even looked. It's simply not how we roll. If we could legally pay people any less we totally would. We won't raise that shit voluntarily.

 

[Busybody]

care to explain, Otiose South

I honestly thought you were kidding us about the 12 cent raise.

Sadly, you weren't.

A whopping $4.80 per week raise for minimum wage workers.

Murica....Fuck Yeah!

Krugman on the Minimum Wage

December 29, 2014, 7:59 am


Via Don Boudreaux:


Bluecravat found something telling that I missed a few months ago, namely, Paul Krugman explaining back in August that one potential cause of the high unemployment rate in France is that country’s “high minimum wage.” As Bluecravat exclaims after quoting from Krugman’s August post: “Excuse me? What was that? Minimum wage levels impact employment?”

Of course, it could be that France’s minimum wage is too high compared to the one that Krugman advocates for the U.S. Krugman supports Pres. Obama’s call for a $10.10 hourly minimum wage. So how does the employment-discouraging minimum wage in France compare to the allegedly prosperity-enhancing, non-employment-discouraging minimum wage that Krugman, Obama, et al., support for the U.S.? According to Bluecravat, France’s current minimum wage, when adjusted for purchasing-power parity, is $9.30 per hour, a rate that is lower than the minimum-wage rate advocated by Krugman, Obama, et al.

The minimum wage is terrible anti-poverty policy. The thing to remember is that A. The majority of minimum wage earners are not poor (or in the poorest 20%); and B. The majority of the poor don't earn minimum wage. In most cases, the poor are poor because they don't get enough hours or don't have a job at all, a situation that will only be made worse with a higher minimum wage.

 

[someoneyouknow]

I find it amusing when companies try to justify the exorbitant salaries and packages their CEOs et al receive, using the excuse, "We need to pay to get the best", which, by their own admission of not paying the people doing the work more money means they don't want the best employees.

So which is it: either you're paying to get the best person for the job, or you're just perpetuating the good 'ol boy network.

 

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[Que]

Care to guess which states will not experience a surge in new entry level jobs in January?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I think it is because we have grown up in a system that longs for the past plantation days, when blacks were slaves and whites ran everything.

It was never like that.

The south was really closer to Ireland than to the fairy tale world the southerner likes to remember. With a rich plutocracy and a everybody else a hired hand or a slave.

After the end of slavery, the vast numbers of unemployed blacks kept the southern men from the benefits of unions. A common saying from the sixties was, "Do your job with vim and vigor, or you'll be replaced with a big black niggar".

Today the fear of the black man's political power is driving the frightened southern voters to vote against their own best interest. They are totally incapable of understanding that they are all 'niggars' to the wealthy.

Florida is different only because of the number of yankees that retire down here.

I love the southern people, they are a hard working and long suffering people but they have problems that they seem to be unable to deal with.

I hope some day they are able to rise above their racist views and join with the black southerners to make a better life for all.

As long as they listen to the veiled racism of the republican right they have little hope of improvement.

There were few Irish in the South until recent times,95% of Southerners were Scots or Scots from Northern Ireland....the so-called Scotch-Irish.

Blacks have no political power except as slumlords within ghetto reservations.

 

[Conager]

If you gotta concern yourself with what is the least your boss can pay you, you got bigger problems.

 

[Busybody]

Krugman on the Minimum Wage

December 29, 2014, 7:59 am


Via Don Boudreaux:


Bluecravat found something telling that I missed a few months ago, namely, Paul Krugman explaining back in August that one potential cause of the high unemployment rate in France is that country’s “high minimum wage.” As Bluecravat exclaims after quoting from Krugman’s August post: “Excuse me? What was that? Minimum wage levels impact employment?”

Of course, it could be that France’s minimum wage is too high compared to the one that Krugman advocates for the U.S. Krugman supports Pres. Obama’s call for a $10.10 hourly minimum wage. So how does the employment-discouraging minimum wage in France compare to the allegedly prosperity-enhancing, non-employment-discouraging minimum wage that Krugman, Obama, et al., support for the U.S.? According to Bluecravat, France’s current minimum wage, when adjusted for purchasing-power parity, is $9.30 per hour, a rate that is lower than the minimum-wage rate advocated by Krugman, Obama, et al.

The minimum wage is terrible anti-poverty policy. The thing to remember is that A. The majority of minimum wage earners are not poor (or in the poorest 20%); and B. The majority of the poor don't earn minimum wage. In most cases, the poor are poor because they don't get enough hours or don't have a job at all, a situation that will only be made worse with a higher minimum wage.

 

[mikey2much]

I didn't mean that there were a lot of irish in the south

There were few Irish in the South until recent times,95% of Southerners were Scots or Scots from Northern Ireland....the so-called Scotch-Irish.

Blacks have no political power except as slumlords within ghetto reservations.

I meant that there were a lot of poor people living around and at the mercy of the big plantations which were owned by rich people in Europe and ran by their managers.

It was almost a feudal system. After the civil war during the occupation of the union forces, things got so bad that many of the whites were forced to leave.

This is when so many people from the south went west, just as many of the irish had to leave their home and come to america during the potato famine.

 

[mikey2much]

I can picture you now vette

Welfare posing as sound economics.

sitting on cases of canned food waiting for the next two years for the republicans to make americans so poor that your sex life can resume.

Been a long time since vietnam.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I meant that there were a lot of poor people living around and at the mercy of the big plantations which were owned by rich people in Europe and ran by their managers.

It was almost a feudal system. After the civil war during the occupation of the union forces, things got so bad that many of the whites were forced to leave.

This is when so many people from the south went west, just as many of the irish had to leave their home and come to america during the potato famine.

According to my ancestors memoir slaves ruined the labor market for poor whites.

 

[mikey2much]

the low wage jobs always have a high turnover rate

Care to guess which states will not experience a surge in new entry level jobs in January?

McDonalds will not close any stores over this.

I am a poor man yet I pay ten bucks an hour when I hire someone to do chores for me. Its the least that I would expect someone to have to work for.

Here in the south many people drive fifty miles a day to and from work. The minimum wage hasn't been raised since gas was one dollar and fifteen cents a gallon.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Care to guess which states will not experience a surge in new entry level jobs in January?

You want to play that game? Cus you know you'll get slaughtered.

 

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