Climate continues to change.

[4est_4est_Gump]

Meanwhile CO2 is at 400 ppm

That's 1,000,000-400=900,600ppm NOT CO2

Oceans hiding heat? We have no recordings to show that. Pure theory.

Ice caps expanding? Yes. Polar bear thriving? Yes. Chicken Little still looking for cove? Yes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Berkeley Lab scientists identify new driver behind Arctic warming

http://www.gloucestertimes.com/news...cle_1f209b88-dc86-5883-8395-94b78f44e40d.html

Real Science countered by the "concerns of the Glowball Warning Pop-Science Governmental Educational complex.

 

[Que Va]

In order to believe things that are not so, you have to be skilled in reading for snippets that support the thing you believe in. A phrase here, some partial results from a study, a chart there. You cannot ask broad, logical, sweeping questions about whether a proposed scenario is likely, under what circumstances and what are all the variables along with the amplitude of change each of those variables might bring to the party.

If we knew for an astronomical fact that a meteor was going to destroy the planet and every person on it in 8 years, they would still be saying global warming is the biggest threat to mankind and must be addressed immediately wit draconian measures against our financial interests.

Debt and unfunded obligations is the biggest threat to the survival of the United States.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I looked at that and it jumped out of me, the reduction of temperatures in July.


JULY!!!


I guess that was one of the coldest winters on record polar vortex redux...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Drudge Headlines:

DEEP FREEZE BLANKETS USA...

Coldest November Morning Since 1976...

1,360 RECORDS SHATTERED IN ONE WEEK!

5-FEET OF SNOW IN BUFFALO?

Cuomo deploys National Guard...

THE CHILL MAP...

'Global Warming' Activists Huddle Together In Capitol...

 

[domroger]

Interesting article on the BBC .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30311822

 

[thør]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10678862_423283414490393_4373333465718348203_n.png?oh=37418a35c22e9f028cfdb169147ace28&oe=55000309&__gda__=1426931889_018a0dffacadd9104e1606238716bafe

2 week forecast.....

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Drudge Headlines:

DEEP FREEZE BLANKETS USA...

Coldest November Morning Since 1976...

1,360 RECORDS SHATTERED IN ONE WEEK!

5-FEET OF SNOW IN BUFFALO?

Cuomo deploys National Guard...

THE CHILL MAP...

'Global Warming' Activists Huddle Together In Capitol...

Gotta love it.

Every winter the nimrods all get together to proclaim that climate change is a hoax because winter is cold.

 

[phrodeau]

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2014GL061940/abstract

We compare four independent estimates of the mass balance of the Amundsen Sea Embayment of West Antarctica, an area experiencing rapid retreat and mass loss to the sea. We use ICESat and Operation IceBridge laser altimetry, Envisat radar altimetry, GRACE time-variable gravity, RACMO2.3 surface mass balance, ice velocity from imaging radars and ice thickness from radar sounders. The four methods agree in terms of mass loss and acceleration in loss at the regional scale. Over 1992–2013, the mass loss is 83±5 Gt/yr with an acceleration of 6.1±0.7 Gt/yr2. During the common period 2003–2009, the mass loss is 84±10 Gt/yr with an acceleration of 16.3±5.6 Gt/yr2, nearly three times the acceleration over 1992–2013.

Just in case you were wondering why global temperatures haven't been increasing at the pace you think they ought to be. The additional heat has been melting Antarctic ice instead of bumping up thermometers.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Debt and unfunded obligations is the biggest threat to the survival of the United States.

No country has ever died of debt.

 

[chillywilly2]

Holy crap

we got 197.5 cm of snow in November this year..77 3/4" for those still in the dark ages

 

[KingOrfeo]

In order to believe things that are not so, you have to be skilled in reading for snippets that support the thing you believe in. A phrase here, some partial results from a study, a chart there. You cannot ask broad, logical, sweeping questions about whether a proposed scenario is likely, under what circumstances and what are all the variables along with the amplitude of change each of those variables might bring to the party.

Of course, the latter is what scientists including climatologists do.

 

[thør]

Holy crap

we got 197.5 cm of snow in November this year..77 3/4" for those still in the dark ages

Will be good for your grass.

 

[thør]

Holy crap

we got 197.5 cm of snow in November this year..77 3/4" for those still in the dark ages

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10422480_424311414387593_4659222987885995720_n.jpg?efg=eyJvbGF0IjoyMDB9&oh=ca57ae1ef9f17dbdd2d3b9bf051325a4&oe=550749BD

 

[chillywilly2]

Will be good for your grass.

We don't bother with grass this time of year, its covered in snow

 

[thør]

We don't bother with grass this time of year, its covered in snow

The deeper the cover, the better it will come through the winter.

 

[chillywilly2]

The deeper the cover, the better it will come through the winter.

I guess...maybe it will help when I spin the track on the front lawn and tear the shit out of it with 156 carbide studs..yeah, a couple more feet should help that

Riding this Sunday...I can hardly wait

 

[thør]

I guess...maybe it will help when I spin the track on the front lawn and tear the shit out of it with 156 carbide studs..yeah, a couple more feet should help that

Riding this Sunday...I can hardly wait

I only have studs in my car tires.

 

[thør]

Two new studies suggest that the Arctic ground squirrel and the beaver are major contributors to climate change.

 

[Kitty]

It's Dec in NYC and so far it looks like a snowless Christmas. I cannot remember having a snowless Christmas before.

 

[thør]

It's Dec in NYC and so far it looks like a snowless Christmas. I cannot remember having a snowless Christmas before.

http://dbffkv15yp72v.cloudfront.net/production/reports/history/year/000/031/081/2014/temperature_temperature_f.png
Last 12 months​

Snow doesn't look common for NYC at this time of year, based on the normal temperatures.

 

[Kitty]

http://dbffkv15yp72v.cloudfront.net/production/reports/history/year/000/031/081/2014/temperature_temperature_f.png
Last 12 months​

Snow doesn't look common for NYC at this time of year, based on the normal temperatures.

That chart is lovely, but I have still rarely gone without snow during Christmas while living here. My beautiful childhood memories can confirm.

 

[Que]

Two new studies suggest that the Arctic ground squirrel and the beaver are major contributors to climate change.

That sounds like the sort of thing that people on the opposing fringe from Phrodeau's fringe are going to seize upon. I sense someone angling for some grant money.

The premise is silly. Were beavers and rodents just introduced to the arctic? Surely this cycle is already accounted for in any historical data.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It's Dec in NYC and so far it looks like a snowless Christmas. I cannot remember having a snowless Christmas before.

2003 was my last Christmas in the NYC area. I remember lots of snow-less Christmases. So does the National Weather Service.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/Christmas.html

 

[phrodeau]

That sounds like the sort of thing that people on the opposing fringe from Phrodeau's fringe are going to seize upon. I sense someone angling for some grant money.

The premise is silly. Were beavers and rodents just introduced to the arctic? Surely this cycle is already accounted for in any historical data.

Read the article next time.

The study, by the University of Saskatchewan in Canada, estimates that beavers are indirectly producing 200 times more methane today than they were in 1900, when fur hunting had largely wiped out the populations in North American, Europe and Asia.

The population rebound, on the back of a conservation drive, has greatly increased the number of “beaver ponds”. They are now responsible for pumping 881,000 tons of methane into the atmosphere each year, according to the research, published in the journal Ambio.