"Who We Are As Americans"

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So true about how Obama likes to claim his values are our values:


The Arbiter Of 'Who We Are As Americans' Gets It Wrong Again
by DEBRA HEINE 15 Dec 2014, 1:10 PM PDT

“Some of the actions that were taken were contrary to our values” said President Obama upon the release of last week's Senate report on the enhanced interrogation techniques that were used during the Bush administration.

Obama has a habit of defining who we are as Americans and what our values are as Americans in speeches and interviews, implying his left-wing values are the correct, quintessentially "American values."

Keith Koffler of White House Dossier and Andrew Ferguson of the Weekly Standard both wrote about the president's annoying conceit in posts, today.
Often Obama's comments about "who we are as Americans" have, as Ferguson notes, "a friendly lilt to it, as though the president were giving us a pat on the back. You hear him at the 9/11 museum saying, “Nothing can ever break us. Nothing can change who we are as Americans,” and you think, Thanks, Obama!"

But more often than not - the president uses the phrase in conjunction with his preferred liberal policies.

“We shape our destiny . . . that’s who we are.” So, number five, we are destiny shapers who always go get our prisoners of war, even if we have to let loose a bunch of Taliban first. Remember the underwear bomber? He proved that “we will be guided by our hopes, our unity, and our deeply held values. That’s who we are as Americans.” So we’re hopeful, united, and festooned with those values, unspecified. Extending unemployment benefits past 99 weeks is “who we are as Americans.” We’re big spenders when it comes to public funds. Income inequality “challenges the very essence of who we are as a people.” We can all make lots of money, as Americans, but not too much.

Koffler points to a new CBS poll that reveals that the nation's opinion of Bush-era interrogation techniques is not what Obama had in mind when spoke on our behalf, last week.

According to the just-released survey, which doubtless won’t get much play on . . . CBS . . . the number of Americans who think “water boarding and other aggressive interrogation tactics” are “sometimes justified” solidly exceeds those who think they are not justified, 49-36 percent.

Unlike Obama, who toasted the report’s release, Americans by 52-33 percent believe the report “poses a threat to the security of the U.S.”

Obama's mushy use of the language is meant to brow-beat the majority into thinking they're anti-American troglodytes who need to join the civilized society of those who share his "deeply held American values." Of course, Obama's definition of "who we are as Americans" is what he wants to force us into becoming as Americans.

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Scalia says torture isn't punishment and terrorists aren't protected by the Constitution. And if terrorists plan to do harm they gotta expect a harsh reception.

 

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[badbabysitter]

I mean, look at all the times we've saved LA from nuclear bombs.. and all the reams of helpful information we've gotten out of torture

 

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[Sean Renaud]

This reads like someone who's just looking to pick at shit. I mean great God.

 

[LadyVer]

Geeze. Double yawn.

Hey SeanR.

 

[Que]

I mean, look at all the times we've saved LA from nuclear bombs.. and all the reams of helpful information we've gotten out of torture

The fruits of torture got Obama a second term, so there is that to weigh against the practice.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I think Obama is, subconsciously maybe, using "The Royal We."

 

[phrodeau]

Look who's interested in what Obama says now.

 

[Que]

I think Obama is, subconsciously maybe, using "The Royal We."

Not very deeply subconscious. What the King says is law. Royal speech.

 

[miles]

So true about how Obama likes to claim his values are our values:


The Arbiter Of 'Who We Are As Americans' Gets It Wrong Again

When The Fraud says "we" it makes me think he has a mouse in his pocket.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The fruits of torture got Obama a second term, so there is that to weigh against the practice.

That's utter nonsense.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

When The Fraud says "we" it makes me think he has a mouse in his pocket.

Makes him think ROBs tongue is in his pocket feeling for a hole.

 

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[phrodeau]

This guy knows what American values are. http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/15/world/asia/philippines-transgender-slaying/index.html

 

[Sean Renaud]

The fruits of torture got Obama a second term, so there is that to weigh against the practice.

The evidence doesn't suggest that. I'm assuming your talking about Bin Laden cus that's been proven to be BS and that torture probably made it harder because they hated us more than they had to.

 

[Kitty]

The fruits of torture got Obama a second term, so there is that to weigh against the practice.

Query, did you hear that Obama is cheating on Michelle? Says the National Enquirer, anyway. He supposedly has a secret passageway from the Jefferson Hotel to sneak out a champagne room and fucks chicks. It's known as the Barack Door. That's such bullshit.

 

[Que]

The evidence doesn't suggest that. I'm assuming your talking about Bin Laden cus that's been proven to be BS and that torture probably made it harder because they hated us more than they had to.

Since it directly led to the knowledge of the courier it led to Bin Laden. You can argue that they might have eventually found Bin Laden, but the knowledge came from water-boarding.

"Some of it came from ... interrogation tactics that were used," he said. "But the fact is we put together most of that intelligence without having to resort to that. I think we could have gotten bin Laden without that."

Notice he did not say "all." We may have found him without it, but the fact is one of the puzzle pieces came from water-boarding. The nationality of the courier was known only from the water-boarding. This led to figuring out the nickname he was known by. He "thinks" we may have solved the puzzle another way, but the way it was solved included that information.

The fact that the highly partisan Senate white-wash included in the partisan release of the torture report by an out-going lame-duck Democratic Senate suggests it didn't help when the director said it did is nonsense.

Maybe the information was attainable some other way. The fact is, that is how we got it.

 

[Que]

Query, did you hear that Obama is cheating on Michelle? Says the National Enquirer, anyway. He supposedly has a secret passageway from the Jefferson Hotel to sneak out a champagne room and fucks chicks. It's known as the Barack Door. That's such bullshit.

National Enquirer is not my first choice in a source. Doesn't mean its false, but and unnamed source is either giving him up for money, or making something up for money. No way to tell.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Since it directly led to the knowledge of the courier it led to Bin Laden. You can argue that they might have eventually found Bin Laden, but the knowledge came from water-boarding.

When you get MOST of the information without it you should safely assume you could have gotten it all. And lets say you could, catching Bin Laden was in no way worth it.

 

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[Disgustipated]

At this point, how do you know it's bullshit?

You are such a tool. My god.

 

[Sean Renaud]

At this point, how do you know it's bullshit?

Not being an idiot would be a good start.

 

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