Why is the media promoting transgenderism so heavily?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Ok so then let me ask you this.

Why is "normal" a requirement for you to treat someone like a human fucking being?

NORMAL is a statistical term.

 

[FGB]

Ok so then let me ask you this.

Why is "normal" a requirement for you to treat someone like a human fucking being?

I treat everyone like a human being. I believe there are very few cases that people should be treated as special."

Neither by race, religion or sexual preference.

And I expect the same out of them.

 

[Beco]

Since when is 'reporting' or 'noting' the same as 'promoting?'

Reporting, actual reporting, has gone the way of the horse and buggy....

 

[Kitty]

Yes. There's more variation within genders than cross-genders. If I had a full-blood female sibling, her stats would be nearly equal mine. If I were female, the hormonal difference is not great enough to change base stats. It's the training that changes them. In fact, there have been long-term studies that show that this is cultural. My culture is actually a good example of this. Cherokee women, at least in the Eastern Band, play football really well. This is because they aren't conditioned to think that they can't. I know that Karmaloff-Smith did some cross-cultural studies with infants, and parents thought and encouraged male children- AS YOUNG AS THREE MONTHS OLD to do more dangerous and trying physical tasks than female children. They were perceived as being able to train more, as being more physically capable far before there would be ANY gender difference whatsoever, because that doesn't even kick in until puberty.

Have you ever mentioned the Two Spirit theory of some Native people?

 

[removed121614]

You know... I guess that's something that we get from being raised in a democracy. "There are fewer of them. So fuck them." Is something that I think gets engrained in you from being raised thinking that you do what the majority wants, what's been voted in, even if it fucks everybody over. I'm not sure how you fix that, tho. Even as a little kid if you have a disagreement, the first thing you do is 'take a vote'. It's not really cool to take a vote on someone else's body.

Where in the world have I stated that "they should be fucked because they're the minority"? I just stated the true fact that how the world views them.

Also, majoritariansm doesn't always win.

 

[Beco]

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/1b/1a/35/1b1a3560c70c5ad7735b74047695dcc9.jpg

I never understood this.....I mean, how do you eat? or smoke reefer?

 

[CandiCame]

Well that's sexist...why not let them play in their own league? Pee wee? It's not like NFL or NOTHING is reasonable in any sort of way. Sorry but that's just asshole nuts.

Further more put a bunch of 100-160lb women on the field against the Seattle Seahawks.....a bunch of 250-350 Lb 6'+ guys.

They would get fucking DESTROYED. DE- FUCKIN- STROYED.



Buuu shit.



Because they can't....it's not weird.



That must be why so many women are kicking ass in the special forces schools and beating men 2x their size down in UFC on a regular basis right?

IDC what your article says, on the high extreme end of physical fitness and athleticism there are VERY few realms in which women can compete with men.

None of them are in the brute strength category.

The short answer to all of that is that they're conditioned to think they can't. In societies where they aren't, you don't see that difference. Interestingly, collectivist cultures tend to have the fewer danty women, because heartyness is a gender-neutral value, rather than a male one. In my grandpa's day, one doesn't marry a woman that can't fight you because her ass can't work a farm. You need a bitch that can toss a caper. Or she'll probably bleed out and die when she tries to give birth. Ain't nobody got time for that.

But now that people DO have time for that, the idea of women being physically weak is causing them to not be as strong because they think they don't have to. Mostly... I've noticed, because they think we'll do it for them if they pretend to be weak. "Carry this shit for me, lift this up for me-" You do that your whole life and you don't grow up big and strong.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Doesn't bother me. I'm also glad that Laverne Cox and Janet Mock are at the forefront of this new recognition/definition movement. They're saying good stuff in the smartest way without allowing or giving space for ignorance to take over the narrative.

Cox has said something to the effect that most people don't know how to process transgenders because society up until this point has indoctrinated you to think it's a purely sexual aberration that exists in/for pornography and the sex life instead of a personal lifestyle using the freedom and choice to redefine your identity into what you feel most comfortable being.

For many people, porn is the only reference they have to those existing outside the "norm" and it's a shitty way to learn about others different from you. Not everyone is gonna understand or accept this and it's small steps going forward like all social movements that seek to improve the lives of a minority.

Let people live, basically. It's never gonna actually damage the stat quo. Whenever I walk in the city, I'm still bombarded by images of cis white women, usually blonde, thin and leggy, as THE de facto standard of beauty and THE social definition of "woman." I seriously doubt I'll ever see that media paradigm change up completely in my lifetime.

Laverne Cox, not unlike most actors and actresses, only cares about Laverne Cox. You never saw “Laverne Cox Reads A Letter From A Transwoman Currently In Prison” - Cox supporting a transwoman who brutally raped and murdered a little black girl? The video was taken down and most likely you will never find it because of the swift (and barely reported) backlash:

"Laverne Cox partnered with us on our End Solitary campaign by reading a letter from SRLP member Synthia China Blast in a video, but has since requested that we remove the video from our site because of her concerns about Synthia’s convictions."
http://srlp.org/endsolitary/videoinformation/

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Yes. There's more variation within genders than cross-genders. If I had a full-blood female sibling, her stats would be nearly equal mine. If I were female, the hormonal difference is not great enough to change base stats. It's the training that changes them. In fact, there have been long-term studies that show that this is cultural. My culture is actually a good example of this. Cherokee women, at least in the Eastern Band, play football really well. This is because they aren't conditioned to think that they can't. I know that Karmaloff-Smith did some cross-cultural studies with infants, and parents thought and encouraged male children- AS YOUNG AS THREE MONTHS OLD to do more dangerous and trying physical tasks than female children. They were perceived as being able to train more, as being more physically capable far before there would be ANY gender difference whatsoever, because that doesn't even kick in until puberty.

I don't know how to respond because you are 100% wrong.

It is like I am in bizarro world.

Maybe Yuri Bezmenov was right and we are seeing his predictions come true.

"The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. "

Video

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Laverne Cox, not unlike most actors and actresses, only cares about Laverne Cox. You never saw “Laverne Cox Reads A Letter From A Transwoman Currently In Prison” - Cox supporting a transwoman who brutally raped and murdered a little black girl? The video was taken down and most likely you will never find it because of the swift (and barely reported) backlash:

"Laverne Cox partnered with us on our End Solitary campaign by reading a letter from SRLP member Synthia China Blast in a video, but has since requested that we remove the video from our site because of her concerns about Synthia’s convictions."
http://srlp.org/endsolitary/videoinformation/

Oh, come on, Funk. That don't prove she's only out for dolo moves. If anything, it means that she's making sure that people's problematics aren't going to derail the main cause if she has to vet shit.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't know how to respond because you are 100% wrong.

It is like I am in bizarro world.

Maybe Yuri Bezmenov was right and we are seeing his predictions come true.

"The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. "

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Here's some scholarly articles to get you started on your journey of understanding the sociocultural roles of the genderfication of physical traits.

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFMwjXonRaYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA123&dq=gender+roles+strength+theory&ots=xhNfClIagI&sig=RmIgVbOLMIzehp6t12V0G2NWFHs#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20strength%20theory&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=PDrnIaoQON0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA31&dq=gender+roles+physical+strength&ots=ycMwtg3JHW&sig=c-kMmpf4QAvSnCeQxKyVluxY3ro#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20physical%20strength&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFMwjXonRaYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA123&dq=gender+roles+strength+theory&ots=xhNfClIbdE&sig=S_7bcqKflVtaa87ivbYZg4vj3KU#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20strength%20theory&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6yZ6lYa_kosC&oi=fnd&pg=PA207&dq=gender+roles+physical+strength&ots=eDd_pHx-8c&sig=rNhlTlxV3dBlzcVlvxTaUUmiVKY#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20physical%20strength&f=false

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10413209108406432#.VI3Z3Hs3m9c


This doesn't just fuck over women by making them physical weaker, it makes men much more likely to get injured trying to fulfill their gender roll. I've already explained how it fucks over children. So as you can easily see, the things that transgendered folk are fighting for, like less rigid gender rolls will benefit everyone, not just trans folk themselves.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I do a happy dance when others do stupid fucking stunts like cut their weeners off and abort and leap from high buildings.

I laughed my ass off when 5 bruthas got shot in a ghetto bar Friday night. The cops weren't within a mile of the place. HANDS UP DONT SHOOT. One of the bruthas has attention deficit disorder.

I like when it black law students don't study for their finals. All the lawyers love it, too.

 

[CandiCame]

Have you ever mentioned the Two Spirit theory of some Native people?

I wouldn't know. That's not my kind of Indian. I'll google it, tho.

Edit: The Wikipage had left me feeling "meh". Not horrible but it still defines and confines gender and I'm not a super big fan of that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The short answer to all of that is that they're conditioned to think they can't.

Show me a woman beating the ever living fuck out of a male world champion fighter or an all girls sports team creaming the shit out of their current male counter parts.

I WOULD LOVE to see a bunch of 300lb monster women go crush the super bowl champs.....but it will never happen man.

They women have tried to compete in sports with men and they have had their ass beat EVERY TIME. Even in baseball, tennis and fucking GOLF bro....totally got their ass's handed to them.

Sorry....there are very few physical competitions where women can even compete with men much less kick their ass's.

Gymnastics....skating....certain endurance comp's. but that's about it.

That's why we segregate sports for M and F.....so that it's fun for everyone, not a total slaughter.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Here's some scholarly articles to get you started on your journey of understanding the sociocultural roles of the genderfication of physical traits.

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFMwjXonRaYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA123&dq=gender+roles+strength+theory&ots=xhNfClIagI&sig=RmIgVbOLMIzehp6t12V0G2NWFHs#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20strength%20theory&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=PDrnIaoQON0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA31&dq=gender+roles+physical+strength&ots=ycMwtg3JHW&sig=c-kMmpf4QAvSnCeQxKyVluxY3ro#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20physical%20strength&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFMwjXonRaYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA123&dq=gender+roles+strength+theory&ots=xhNfClIbdE&sig=S_7bcqKflVtaa87ivbYZg4vj3KU#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20strength%20theory&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6yZ6lYa_kosC&oi=fnd&pg=PA207&dq=gender+roles+physical+strength&ots=eDd_pHx-8c&sig=rNhlTlxV3dBlzcVlvxTaUUmiVKY#v=onepage&q=gender%20roles%20physical%20strength&f=false

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10413209108406432#.VI3Z3Hs3m9c


This doesn't just fuck over women by making them physical weaker, it makes men much more likely to get injured trying to fulfill their gender roll. I've already explained how it fucks over children. So as you can easily see, the things that transgendered folk are fighting for, like less rigid gender rolls will benefit everyone, not just trans folk themselves.

You didn't read my post. You have basically given me links written by the very people my post mentioned.

 

[CandiCame]

Show me a woman beating the ever living fuck out of a male world champion fighter or an all girls sports team creaming the shit out of their current male counter parts.

I WOULD LOVE to see a bunch of 300lb monster women go crush the super bowl champs.....but it will never happen man.

They women have tried to compete in sports with men and they have had their ass beat EVERY TIME. Even in baseball, tennis and fucking GOLF bro....totally got their ass's handed to them.

Sorry....there are very few physical competitions where women can even compete with men much less kick their ass's.

Gymnastics....skating....certain endurance comp's. but that's about it.

That's why we segregate sports for M and F.....so that it's fun for everyone, not a total slaughter.

Again, I don't follow sports. But science says you're wrong. So if that's true, it's a cultural thing. I've seen women football players beat men, but that was on a highschool, not professional level, and I wasn't paying much attention. I was just forced to be there because there's a thing at my high school every year where the girls team plays the boys team but this girl named Regina, who incidentally I really hated, beat the living shit out of the male quarterback and was later the reason that we couldn't have plastic trays in the cafeteria. So she may have skewed the game. Because she was a fucking bitch.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Oh, come on, Funk. That don't prove she's only out for dolo moves. If anything, it means that she's making sure that people's problematics aren't going to derail the main cause if she has to vet shit.

Come on, all Hollywood people are in it for themselves. I am supposed to be Cox is the exception? Removing your penis makes you a saint now?

 

[CandiCame]

You didn't read my post. You have basically given me links written by the very people my post mentioned.

I can't help that you don't trust science. But that would indicate that all these international, cross cultural research teams came from the same post-hippie culture and I have a difficult time believing that was a global phenomenon.

 

[Kitty]

I wouldn't know. That's not my kind of Indian. I'll google it, tho.

Edit: The Wikipage had left me feeling "meh". Not horrible but it still defines and confines gender and I'm not a super big fan of that.

I, too, don't understand nor fully accept that theory. But for different reasons... Yet it still is a pathway to accepting the mainstream idea of transgenderism, should you choose to learn about it a bit more.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Again, I don't follow sports. But science says you're wrong.

Really?

Women...can compete with men on the brute size and strength scale hua?

Show me.....show me women benching just as much as men, show me the world champ women fighters creaming the male world champ fighters.

Show me all the female operators in spec-ops....

Show me the womens world records in sports NOT getting totally creamed by mens....

And I'll bend over and kiss my own ass...

 

[CandiCame]

Really?

Women...can compete with men on the brute size and strength scale hua?

Show me.....show me women benching just as much as men, show me the world champ women fighters creaming the male world champ fighters.

Show me all the female operators in spec-ops....

Show me the womens world records in sports NOT getting totally creamed by mens....

And I'll bend over and kiss my own ass...

Even if none of those people exist, which I doubt, it's still cultural, not physical problems that they're facing.

 

[Kitty]

Even if none of those people exist, which I doubt, it's still cultural, not physical problems that they're facing.

I'm sure any female could beat one of these guys in an arm wrestlin' competition.

 

[toubab]

Reporting, actual reporting, has gone the way of the horse and buggy....

Messiahs don't simply report. Changing the world requires more than reporting.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Even if none of those people exist, which I doubt, it's still cultural, not physical problems that they're facing.

Really? That must be why Men pretty much UNANIMOUSLY across the board hold all the physical prowess records for speed/strength....

Because no female competitor ever wanted it bad enough. buushit.

"Scientific" conjecture aside until there is at least SOME evidence, real world kind that women can "Hulk Smash" just as hard as men.....I'm calling bullshit.

JUST ONE video of ANY woman going water boy and dominating the NFL......creaming 300 pounders across the field every Sunday. UFC girl beating GSP retarded in the octagon. Let's see ANY girls smashing their elite male counterparts.....where are the records??

Just ONE win for women over men in the "Hulk Smash!" department and I'll STFU, admit I was wrong about it and totally re-consider my stance on women physical prowess over men in the brute strength department.

 

[warrior queen]

I usually stay out of threads like this.....but I have to ask......
Why is this even an issue?
What difference does it make if we are seeing transgender in the media? Seriously - how is this any different to any other minority group?
Your life isn't going to change in any major way just because transgender people become more understood/accepted.

Your family won't break down, your job won't disappear, your rights aren't infringed, your identity won't be stolen....

So what, exactly, is the problem?