So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?

[4est_4est_Gump]

Some of them was just blowing smoke. But I couple of them I know will do it. I don't think they will just walk outside and shoot a cop though. But in a situation where they are strap and a cop jump out them, on some stop and frisk shit. I think they would open up on them. (Open up means shoot)

I get the gist of the colorful Jersey street vernacular.



I know some rednecks who are very particular about their 'hunting stands' too. Game Warden better be careful about where he's stumbling around, you don't want to disturb the chronic...

 

[BotanyBoy]

You manage to secede and I would move there. My mom's place in Oregon is incredible, but I suspect my politics would not be welcome in the locale.

Oh it will never happen, CA isn't about to let their cash/water assets go.

Idk we got some wal mart towns around you might like....I mean there ARE republicans around so you won't be alone. And you're odd ball RW enough that you might fit in OR pretty well. I still wouldn't wave your GOP flag though...it's like having an Obama bumper sticker, in West Virginia.

And since I left it out, Nor Cal could care less if we So Calers died in a fire. Hell they might appreciate us not stealing their water.

Nah for all the shit we give you guys we still love ya in that hippie way we love everyone....and it's entertaining to see y'all up here, you stand out like a sore thumb. Gives us something to talk about during the weekly social out in the grocery store parking lot when they come up here to buy weed.

And yea...the water thing is bullshit and a large reason why the whole state of Jefferson thing is even there. Tired of sucking hind tit so the folks in LA can keep their fucking golf courses nice and green and getting literally NO say so in the matter.

Ah well...we keep it up and they will be in for a world of hurt here pretty soon, shit just won't be there.

 

[muycurioso]

not so fast

When white people cede all politics to non-white people.

Then, there will be honest discussion as "we" decide how much you "owe" us.

White people have a lot of money just laying around...

I am not trying to be rude here, but when blacks run the show things most of the time look like Haiti or Zimbabwa (sp?) When will Magabe (again sp?) die. He is the norm rather than the minority of black leaders.

And onto the riots: how is it taking it to the "man" by burning up all YOUR local businesses, incl the Publix. Real smart. If those people wanted to take it to the "man" why didn't they march/drive to the prosecuter the hate so much house?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Here's the snag at the end of the day. Perception heavily colors reality. If I feel like I don't matter, then I feel like I don't matter and you need something a little better than "stop being silly" to make it sink in. I think there are sufficient riots and protests not just in Ferguson but around the country to make it clear that as a whole African Americans do not feel like we matter.

So you can continue telling us we're being silly if you like. Good luck insulting us into your point of view though.

You don't matter and no one gives a shit about your feelings. Youre the toilet paper of the Democrats. This is the reality.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I am not trying to be rude here, but when blacks run the show things most of the time look like Haiti or Zimbabwa (sp?) When will Magabe (again sp?) die. He is the norm rather than the minority of black leaders.

And onto the riots: how is it taking it to the "man" by burning up all YOUR local businesses, incl the Publix. Real smart. If those people wanted to take it to the "man" why didn't they march/drive to the prosecuter the hate so much house?

That has less to do with race that their philosophical underpinnings and economic acuity.

Most of the time, you see "black people" living in cultures dominated by tribalism (see also: RJThoughts) and an economy of the communal pot which is a variation on little if no ownership of property and the traditional emphasis on shared resources which, are of course, for the tribe only and must be jealously and assiduously guarded from those outside of the tribe. This "community" is run by "Attila and the Witch Doctor."

It is a polity embraced by the Modern Western Liberal who thinks he can direct and manage the resources to the various tribes which he has nanny-like dominion over, which actually serve only to maintain his/her erudite lifestyle and power base, in a manner sufficient to keep them pacified and on the reservation/plantation with no ambition to replace the Liberal leadership with leadership of their own, which has been trained to tribalism, Attila and the Witch Doctor.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I am not trying to be rude here, but when blacks run the show things most of the time look like Haiti or Zimbabwa (sp?) When will Magabe (again sp?) die. He is the norm rather than the minority of black leaders.

And onto the riots: how is it taking it to the "man" by burning up all YOUR local businesses, incl the Publix. Real smart. If those people wanted to take it to the "man" why didn't they march/drive to the prosecuter the hate so much house?

Blacks help business unload excess inventory. Detroit doesn't give a shit how many new cars niggers burn, the insurance company pays full price.

 

[Ishmael]

That has less to do with race that their philosophical underpinnings and economic acuity.

Most of the time, you see "black people" living in cultures dominated by tribalism (see also: RJThoughts) and an economy of the communal pot which is a variation on little if no ownership of property and the traditional emphasis on shared resources which, are of course, for the tribe only and must be jealously and assiduously guarded from those outside of the tribe. This "community" is run by "Attila and the Witch Doctor."

It is a polity embraced by the Modern Western Liberal who thinks he can direct and manage the resources to the various tribes which he has nanny-like dominion over, which actually serve only to maintain his/her erudite lifestyle and power base, in a manner sufficient to keep them pacified and on the reservation/plantation with no ambition to replace the Liberal leadership with leadership of their own, which has been trained to tribalism, Attila and the Witch Doctor.

"Attila and the Witch Doctor." If not a book, it's a movie title.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Or an essay in a Liberally-hated book of essays...



We're turning out racial comprachicos.

 

[Ishmael]

When I was at the barbershop them ignorant dummies was talking about shooting cops. Saying shit like we just need to pop about 3 cops, and they will get the message. I didn't want to post this cause I don't want to be a conspiracy to shit. But they were saying shit like something gotta give, shit like this can't be happening, boycott Black Friday. I told them dummies, you are not going to get away with killing a cop. You will do life in jail or worst. Violence is only going to bring more violence. And yall saying shit like this, is the reason they shoot and kill us now. When you act like a animal you get treated as such.

I wonder if they paid the slightest attention to you?

Most of that is just mouth, but it only takes one to carry it through to bring a world a hurt down on everyone. You shoot a cop and the rest of the cops are going to swarm, and they don't give a shit as to what the communities predominant skin tint is. They have a tribe of their own to protect.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Race relations will never improve as long as the black Liberal intelligentsia thinks along these lines:

http://time.com/3594636/ferguson-is-the-wrong-tragedy-to-wake-america-up/

In his mind, the results of the Grand Jury testimony do not fit his interpretation of the facts and thus "The Story" must still be the underlying explanation to any bad behavior coming out of his community.



I would suggest that we withdraw all white law enforcement from each and every majority black community and let them run their own no-go-zones like they do with Sharia in Europe.

 

[cowslinger64]

You "men" argue like fucking little girls.

Race relations will never improve as long as the black Liberal intelligentsia thinks along these lines:

http://time.com/3594636/ferguson-is-the-wrong-tragedy-to-wake-america-up/

In his mind, the results of the Grand Jury testimony do not fit his interpretation of the facts and thus "The Story" must still be the underlying explanation to any bad behavior coming out of his community.



I would suggest that we withdraw all white law enforcement from each and every majority black community and let them run their own no-go-zones like they do with Sharia in Europe.

Obviously, you didnt read the transcript of his testimony. If you had, it reads like a fiction novel. If he would have been put on the stand, he would have been torn to shreds. At the very least, there is a lot of reasonable doubt about his story.

 

[miles]

Double

 

[miles]

While I too have driven crappy cars in the past, I don't now. Plus I drive slow because I have learned that there is no gain in hurry...

So are you one of those old farts who drives 20 miles with their turn signal on?

 

[Ishmael]

Race relations will never improve as long as the black Liberal intelligentsia thinks along these lines:

http://time.com/3594636/ferguson-is-the-wrong-tragedy-to-wake-america-up/

In his mind, the results of the Grand Jury testimony do not fit his interpretation of the facts and thus "The Story" must still be the underlying explanation to any bad behavior coming out of his community.



I would suggest that we withdraw all white law enforcement from each and every majority black community and let them run their own no-go-zones like they do with Sharia in Europe.

Well, you know what would happen if someone made the attempt to carry that out. Everyone would be screaming bloody murder. The cops can't win. On Monday night the police showed restraint and were accused of "allowing Ferguson to burn." Had they gone in in force, like they did shortly after the incident took place, they would have been accused of 'heavy handed, provocative, behavior", just like they were back then.

So exactly what is it the community wants the cops to do? I believe that the majority of the black community is just like any other community, they want to live in peace and be secure from the criminals among them. But just how is that to be accomplished? Without some law enforcement presence it isn't going to be accomplished (unless the community wants to form vigilante committees, and that is an alternative). What is it they want the police to do? Show a significant presence but sit in the cruisers and do nothing? If that's the case then what's the point? It's the virtual fulfillment of the scenario you postulated.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So are you one of those old farts who drives 20 miles with their turn signal on?

I don't think it's on...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Well, you know what would happen if someone made the attempt to carry that out. Everyone would be screaming bloody murder. The cops can't win. On Monday night the police showed restraint and were accused of "allowing Ferguson to burn." Had they gone in in force, like they did shortly after the incident took place, they would have been accused of 'heavy handed, provocative, behavior", just like they were back then.

So exactly what is it the community wants the cops to do? I believe that the majority of the black community is just like any other community, they want to live in peace and be secure from the criminals among them. But just how is that to be accomplished? Without some law enforcement presence it isn't going to be accomplished (unless the community wants to form vigilante committees, and that is an alternative). What is it they want the police to do? Show a significant presence but sit in the cruisers and do nothing? If that's the case then what's the point? It's the virtual fulfillment of the scenario you postulated.

Ishmael

They even hand-picked black law enforcement to be in charge and I saw Cap'n Ron on the TV Tuesday morning saying, "this one is on the community."

 

[Que]

They even hand-picked black law enforcement to be in charge and I saw Cap'n Ron on the TV Tuesday morning saying, "this one is on the community."

Most departments actively seek out recruits that are black. They cannot find enough.

The "Us vs Them" is exacerbated every time the usual suspects conflates an incident that had nothing to do with race or police brutality into one. The more these tensions are inflamed the less OK it is for a youth to aspire to be a cop.

The Irish and the Italians found it perfectly acceptable to have gangster, cops and priests from the same neighborhood.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Most departments actively seek out recruits that are black. They cannot find enough.

The "Us vs Them" is exacerbated every time the usual suspects conflates an incident that had nothing to do with race or police brutality into one. The more these tensions are inflamed the less OK it is for a youth to aspire to be a cop.

The Irish and the Italians found it perfectly acceptable to have gangster, cops and priests from the same neighborhood.

I get that. From high school experience and from the kids I taught through the years, the ranks of the police force (and the 'teachers campus') are fleshed out by lots of white trash who were always picked on and were never, ever going to be college material. I can only suspect why black youth with of little prospect don't gravitate into a career field just dying to give them a leg up...

 

[Que]

I get that. From high school and from the kids I taught through the years, the ranks of the police force (and the 'teachers campus') are fleshed out by lots of white trash who where always picked on and were never, ever going to be college material. I can only suspect why black youth with of little prospect don't gravitate into a career field just dying to give them a leg up...

If nothing else, wouldn't you think the gangs would want to quietly, and peaceably infiltrate?

I would assign someone's little brother with a clean record to go to the academy if I was running things.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If nothing else, wouldn't you think the gangs would want to quietly, and peaceably infiltrate?

I would assign someone's little brother with a clean record to go to the academy if I was running things.

That's been the basis of many a Mafia movie.



The gangs do not need to infiltrate as per my earlier remarks about the efforts of effete Liberals academics and their support team to introduce blanket multiculturalism to explain and accept each and every aberrant behavior.

 

[smoothg103rd]

If nothing else, wouldn't you think the gangs would want to quietly, and peaceably infiltrate?

I would assign someone's little brother with a clean record to go to the academy if I was running things.

Here it is some cops that are in a gang ( not many). Or affiliated In some kind of way. It's a principal, who really is Grape.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Most departments actively seek out recruits that are black. They cannot find enough.

The "Us vs Them" is exacerbated every time the usual suspects conflates an incident that had nothing to do with race or police brutality into one. The more these tensions are inflamed the less OK it is for a youth to aspire to be a cop.

The Irish and the Italians found it perfectly acceptable to have gangster, cops and priests from the same neighborhood.

Only difference between a gangster and a cop is the cop get's paid less because they are foot soldiers at work for the gangsters, but they get a badge and away with a lot of bullshit so it works out for them.

At the end of the day you have to pay them both your protection money, or they will be coming for you and all your shit.

Thug life.....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/G.W._Bush_delivers_State_of_the_Union_Address.jpg

 

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