10 Commandments For Atheists Who Want To Explore Their Values

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Religion News Service | By Kimberly Winston
10 Commandments For Atheists Who Want To Explore Their Values.




STANFORD, Calif. (RNS) An atheist, a humanist and an agnostic walk into a restaurant.

The hostess says, “Table for one?”

An old joke, yes, but its essence lies at the heart of “Atheist Mind, Humanist Heart: Rewriting the Ten Commandments for the Twenty-First Century,” a new book by Lex Bayer and John Figdor.

Bayer, 36, is a Stanford grad and longtime humanist, and Figdor, 30, is the new humanist chaplain at Stanford University. The two met when Bayer, a venture capitalist and engineer, wrote a news story about Figdor’s arrival at Stanford. The two soon discovered they liked hashing out difficult ideas about the way people live.

They began meeting regularly for coffee, brought along their computers and were soon on their way to drafting a book — a kind of philosophical roadmap to essential beliefs for nonbelievers.

“There are lots of books out there about why you should not believe in God,” Bayer said. “But there aren’t any about what do secular people believe in. I think that’s the question John and I felt hadn’t been adequately addressed.”


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The Ten Non-Commandments:

I. The world is real, and our desire to understand the world is the basis for belief.
II. We can perceive the world only through our human senses.
III. We use rational thought and language as tools for understanding the world.
IV. All truth is proportional to the evidence.
V. There is no God.
VI. We all strive to live a happy life. We pursue things that make us happy and avoid things that do not.
VII. There is no universal moral truth. Our experiences and preferences shape our sense of how to behave.
VIII. We act morally when the happiness of others makes us happy.
IX. We benefit from living in, and supporting, an ethical society.
X. All our beliefs are subject to change in the face of new evidence, including these.
 
Atheists don't need no stinking rules.
 
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I don't like #8. I act morally regardless of other people's feelings or actions.

When I feel like it. ;)
 
Reconcile 7 & 8 with any scenario where the chances of detection are minimal and the immoral thing can be rationalized as being a small part of a much larger picture. For example your employer made 8 billion dollars after expenses including taxes last year. You could divert 4-5 shipments of about $250,000 each and pocket a cool million. (by the way, this is a real world, local example, it was done and they did get away with it, until they got greedy and tried again some cop noticed a truck headed the wrong way.) The missing million is only 1/8 of 1/1000th of their profits. A rounding error really. Why NOT do it?

That said, why would said employer hire someone with the above value structure?
 
How do you know when you are acting morally and when you are not?

Shit just got real with this question.

Can I answer, for myself that is? :)

Ok well I'll do it anyway:

by consulting religious text on what isn't moral, of course. I believe Atheists are some of the most morally intelligent people, and they simply just intentionally rebel against the idea of following these principles. Then there are others who have no clue what the fuck they're talking about and just want to bitch about how the Bible is a comic book at best. But without religious doctrine guiding us on what is right and wrong, I'm sure we can determine for ourselves what is right and wrong. Just look at the actions and mentalities and social practices that ruin the world or simply hurt someone.
 
I don't like #8. I act morally regardless of other people's feelings or actions.

When I feel like it. ;)


Exactly the problem. If there are no moral absolutes, whether it makes someone else happy or whether it prevents someone from being unhappy entirely depends on your relationship with that person.

Experiments such as pressing a button to deliver a shock to a stranger for a benefit to oneself show that people are not inherently noble.

worse still, if I don't like someone, it is very easy to consider taking an action that would make them as unhappy as they make me.

Humans have an infinite capacity to rationalize their actions.
 
Shit just got real with this question.

Can I answer, for myself that is? :)

Ok well I'll do it anyway:

by consulting religious text on what isn't moral, of course. I believe Atheists are some of the most morally intelligent people, and they simply just intentionally rebel against the idea of following these principles. Then there are others who have no clue what the fuck they're talking about and just want to bitch about how the Bible is a comic book at best. But without religious doctrine guiding us on what is right and wrong, I'm sure we can determine for ourselves what is right and wrong. Just look at the actions and mentalities and social practices that ruin the world or simply hurt someone.

How do we determine what is right and wrong? Is there some human action that is wrong, without regard to context or motive? What is absolutely forbidden, without exception?
 
How do we determine what is right and wrong? Is there some human action that is wrong, without regard to context or motive? What is absolutely forbidden, without exception?

Don't eat apples that snakes give you.
 
You meant the number I rule, right?

This is why there should be no stinking rules. It just leads to me axing people over silly things.

Edited to add: Auto correct is the debil.
 
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There are good rules. Things like:

1. Don't spit into the wind.
2. Don't tug on Superman's cape.
3. Don't pull the mask of the old, Lone Ranger.
4. Don't mess around with Jim.
 
There are good rules. Things like:

1. Don't spit into the wind.
2. Don't tug on Superman's cape.
3. Don't pull the mask of the old, Lone Ranger.
4. Don't mess around with Jim.

These are things I can get behind.
 
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