Activists outraged: Registration does lead to confiscation

[FGB]

Police in Buffalo, N.Y. are demonstrating what gun rights activists across the map have been saying for years – and gun prohibition lobbyists have been denying – about how registration leads to confiscation as they will reportedly begin confiscating guns legally owned by people who have recently passed away, according to a report yesterday on Fox News.

more: http://www.examiner.com/article/activists-outraged-registration-does-lead-to-confiscation

 

[RobDownSouth]

Dead people got rights? Who knew?

 

[possum123]

The live people who will inherit the guns have rights.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The live people who will inherit the guns have rights.

Not sure, but doesn't an estate have to pass through probate in NY first? I.e. the gummint gets what's theirs, and then the will is settled? I don't know, I'm asking. Gawd knows we have enough lawyers on this board, even without Ken's alt army.

 

[unregistered]

 

[RobDownSouth]

Their estate has rights.

Go play outside with your friends. The adults are talking here.

 

[FGB]

Down here guns are passed down through the generations.

I have my grandmothers S&W 38 Short colt hammerless. It was passed on to me when my mother died. I actually found a half dozen rounds in Washington state for it. The bullets goes a little bit faster than a BB but not much.

 

[Skiddles2014]

The 'interesting' parts are bolded.

as they will reportedly begin confiscating guns legally owned by people who have recently passed away, according to a report yesterday on Fox News

'nuff said.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Go play outside with your friends. The adults are talking here.

Estates are people too...derp.

 

[phrodeau]

We must make sure that every thug who gets gunned down in the streets is able to pass his handguns down to his preschool kids.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Actually the Dead do have rights in so far as their wishes pertaining to the disposition of their estate.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Well then, let me throw out a hypothetical situation:

An aging gun-fetishist (let's call him "Vetteman") ingests too many poppers (Amyl Nitrates) at a gay bar and dies an ugly death.

His three adult children (let's call them "Lee", "Harvey" and "Oswald") are, like the children of many gun-fetishists, mentally deficient and legally barred from owning (or even touching) firearms.

Yet, "Vetteman" has bequeathed at least one of his steel penis collection to each of his subhuman children.

Whose "rights" are paramount here? The estate's "right" or the public's "right" to safety?

 

[KingOrfeo]

The 'interesting' parts are bolded.



'nuff said.

Agreed, and I would not take this story too seriously until backed up by a more reliable news source. Nevertheless, kudos to the Fox News headline writer:

Cold, dead hands: Buffalo to seize guns from families following owners' funerals

Also:

The plan is legal under a longstanding, but rarely enforced state law. . . .

<snip>

Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derrenda said at a press conference last week that the department will be sending people to collect guns that belong to pistol permit holders who had died so "they don't end up in the wrong hands." The department will cross reference pistol permit holders with death records and the guns will be collected when possible, he said.

Derrenda said guns pose a threat if their owner is no longer alive to safeguard them, especially if a recently-deceased gun owner's home is burglarized.

"At times they lay out there and the family is not aware of them and they end up just out on the street," he said, according to WGRZ.com.

The state law says that if the permit holder dies, the estate has 15 days to dispose of the guns or turn them in to authorities, who can hold the weapons up to two years. LoHud.com reported that violation of the law by survivors is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine.

So, not so much confiscation as temporary sequestration. They ain't gonna melt down these guns to make manhole covers.

Also, I'm reminded of Men in Black:

BUG-EYED MONSTER: Give me your weapon!

FARMER: You can have my gun when you pry my cold, dead fingers off of it!

BEM: Your offer is acceptable.

*grab*scream*munch*slurp*urp*

 

[domroger]

Just what can be expected from Fucks News .

 

[Boxlicker101]

Agreed, and I would not take this story too seriously until backed up by a more reliable news source. Nevertheless, kudos to the Fox News headline writer:





Also:



So, not so much confiscation as temporary sequestration. They ain't gonna melt down these guns to make manhole covers.

Also, I'm reminded of Men in Black:

BUG-EYED MONSTER: Give me your weapon!

FARMER: You can have my gun when you pry my cold, dead fingers off of it!

BEM: Your offer is acceptable.

*grab*scream*munch*slurp*urp*

Here is a more positive source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/buffalo-police-search-for-firearms-at-home-after-funerals/

And this statement appears in the link:

Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derrenda said at a press conference last week that the department will be sending people to collect guns that belong to pistol permit holders who had died so "they don't end up in the wrong hands." The department will cross reference pistol permit holders with death records and the guns will be collected when possible, he said.

In other words, it's not an opinion; it's fact.

 

[Ishmael]

Obviously it is in the best interest of the citizen NOT to register shit. Or just lie and say, "Guns? No guns here. My dear departed father must have sold them."

Of course the cops are going to say, "Selling them without filing with us is against the law."

And the reply is, "Really? Are you gong to arrest my departed father? Will he need a lawyer? You can find him at Amherst Cemetery, plot 376."

Ishmael

 

[Amberchgo]

Here is a more positive source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/buffalo-police-search-for-firearms-at-home-after-funerals/

And this statement appears in the link:

Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derrenda said at a press conference last week that the department will be sending people to collect guns that belong to pistol permit holders who had died so "they don't end up in the wrong hands." The department will cross reference pistol permit holders with death records and the guns will be collected when possible, he said.

In other words, it's not an opinion; it's fact.

So the wishes in an estate plan don't count in New York. Surprised?