The Isolated Blurt Thread IX: Insurrection

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I haven't been to Bombay 's since my band played there and I only go to the sewer before a show across the street. I'm sure we have seen each other.

I only go to either one when a band I want to see is playing. No doubt we've crossed paths.
 
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10 Hours Of Walking Through NYC As A Woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A


I knew it was bad, but this is fucking insane. It's a battlefield outside every day for women.

Here is a complete list of everything said to her:

"How you doing today?"
"I guess not good."
"Smile."
"What's up beautiful, have a good day."
"Hey what's up girl, how you doing?"
"Somebody is acknowledging you for being beautiful."
"You should say thank you more."
"God bless you Mami."
"Damn."
"Hey beautiful."
"How are you this morning."
"Have a nice evening."
"Nice."
"Damn."
"Hi beautiful."
"God bless."
"Sexy american eagle."
"Hello good morning."
"God bless you, have a good day alright."
"How you doing, good?"
"Hey lookie there, I saw a thousand dollars."
"Damn girl."
"You don't wanna talk? Because I'm ugly?"
(Creep does actually pursue her for her number)
"What's up miss."
"How you doing?"
"Have a nice evening darling."
 
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I can't read your tone or intent with your post. Are you listing those to indicate the weren't saying terrible things? Without the men's' tone or, for at least a couple, their proximity, it doesn't sound as menacing. But, did you think that was a comfortable situation?

Those uninvited comments were not welcoming. With two of the guys, I was actually quite nervous for her.

The ones walking next to her just trailing her, that shit was scary. I can't understand how men would think that would be okay or that it would get them somewhere.
 
I can't read your tone or intent with your post. Are you listing those to indicate the weren't saying terrible things? Without the men's' tone or, for at least a couple, their proximity, it doesn't sound as menacing. But, did you think that was a comfortable situation?

Those uninvited comments were not welcoming. With two of the guys, I was actually quite nervous for her.

most of the comments were pretty harmless and, taken in isolations, no big deal. but what a lot of guys don't seem to fathom is the sheer volume. she was dressed in a fairly drab way, so would attract less attention than she might otherwise. it becomes oppressive, just by numbers. when you say 'smile for me, beautiful!', you might be the fifteenth guy that day and it might be wearing pretty bloody thin.

also, it's a no win. if you ignore you're a stuck up bitch. if you engage you're encouraging them. each guy thinks he's a special little snowflake who deserves your response, when in reality he's just one of thousands who will use a similar tactic.

one of the best things about getting older is that I can walk past groups of young guys and they'll say nothing, because i'm mom generation now. having been dealing with it since I was 13, it's a welcome relief. i'm not saying it ruined my life, but it did put downers on otherwise good days.
 
most of the comments were pretty harmless and, taken in isolations, no big deal. but what a lot of guys don't seem to fathom is the sheer volume. she was dressed in a fairly drab way, so would attract less attention than she might otherwise. it becomes oppressive, just by numbers. when you say 'smile for me, beautiful!', you might be the fifteenth guy that day and it might be wearing pretty bloody thin.

also, it's a no win. if you ignore you're a stuck up bitch. if you engage you're encouraging them. each guy thinks he's a special little snowflake who deserves your response, when in reality he's just one of thousands who will use a similar tactic.

This. I agree that the most unsettling were the guys that followed her. It's true that most of those comments are innocuous taken out of context, but in the frame of the experience they demonstrate a serious cultural schism.

This video is one of the best I have seen that flips the paradigm. It's a bit intense but the point comes across well. The subtitles aren't great- the translation could have been better- but you'll get the gist.

http://www.upworthy.com/a-french-film-showing-men-what-being-a-woman-feels-like-kinda
 
That woman who is planning on taking her own life makes me sad. Both because she knows her fate, but also because she's made her struggle so public.
 
Not even 8 am and I'm already thinking about what's for dinner... The Swedish thread is putting meatballs at the top of the current list.
 
Yes, this.

I'm part of now-mom generation who had some unsettling experiences with this as a teen and twenty-something but now experiences very little. My daughters are 11 and 13, though. I wish they could bypass this crap.

Then don't let them visit any city anywhere in the world; but especially not any European city.


What struck me about the hit piece, was that NYC has a reputation as being rude, stand-offish, a place where people ignore each other.

Now, it's in trouble for being too friendly. "Hello, beautiful" OMG! I'm such a pig!!!

Of course, the point of the video was to establish an agenda and then film the fulfillment of the agenda.


People need to get the hurt out of their butts.
 
Yes, this.

I'm part of now-mom generation who had some unsettling experiences with this as a teen and twenty-something but now experiences very little. My daughters are 11 and 13, though. I wish they could bypass this crap.
my daughter first came home crying at the age of 13, after two friendly guys followed her a short distance in the street, commenting on her body. had she realised how friendly they were, i'm sure she would have been overjoyed. i'm an idiot, because, instead of telling her to get over her butthurt, I told her the world is full of douchebags and there's not a lot can be done about it.
 
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