Military enlistmen

[KUJACK]

70% of American youth cannot qualify for military enlistment because they are obese.

 

[parodyluvr75]

^^^has fat head

 

[dolf]

thread's been done.

 

[BotanyBoy]

GET THA FUCK OFF MY OBSTACLE YOU FAT SLIMY WALRUS LOOKING PIECE OF SHIT!!
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[Sean Renaud]

Only 30% of youth qualify for a job that totals 1% of the population. Sounds like a non-issue to me. The military isn't even hurting that bad for bodies. We should be a lot more concerned about how many kids can't get into college and force us to import kids from nations where the education system doesn't suck.

 

[KUJACK]

Only 30% of youth qualify for a job that totals 1% of the population. Sounds like a non-issue to me. The military isn't even hurting that bad for bodies. We should be a lot more concerned about how many kids can't get into college and force us to import kids from nations where the education system doesn't suck.

We are the brain drain for the world. If you are smart and hard working, you will have a successful life. Our El-Hi education system is flawed because of government intervention. Our post grad university education is the best in the world.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We are the brain drain for the world. If you are smart and hard working, you will have a successful life. Our El-Hi education system is flawed because of government intervention. Our post grad university education is the best in the world.

I don't mind being a brain drain on the world, that's fine. Being smart however is only half the equation. Our El-Hi education is flawed because it's flawed not because of government intervention. However our Post Grad is the best in the world, but there are plenty of good non-US schools as well. I'd happily trade for slightly less awesome Post Grad system for an EL-Hi program that isn't complete crap.

 

[KUJACK]

I don't mind being a brain drain on the world, that's fine. Being smart however is only half the equation. Our El-Hi education is flawed because it's flawed not because of government intervention. However our Post Grad is the best in the world, but there are plenty of good non-US schools as well. I'd happily trade for slightly less awesome Post Grad system for an EL-Hi program that isn't complete crap.

I agree if it were possible. My daughter teaches in inner city Philly, grades 7 thru 12. She tells me of daily fights in the hallway and every other day in her class. Profanity is the norm, every nasty word every hour. The students know that they can't expelled because the school will lose federal money, so the crazyness goes on, with the students in charge. Try to teach in this environment.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I agree if it were possible. My daughter teaches in inner city Philly, grades 7 thru 12. She tells me of daily fights in the hallway and every other day in her class. Profanity is the norm, every nasty word every hour. The students know that they can't expelled because the school will lose federal money, so the crazyness goes on, with the students in charge. Try to teach in this environment.

First the students don't know they can't be expelled. I'd be willing to bet close to none of them are even aware at all of how schools get their funding. Now they may know good and damn well they won't be expelled but not because they understand the system. However that's an entirely different problem than what you mentioned previously.

 

[KUJACK]

First the students don't know they can't be expelled. I'd be willing to bet close to none of them are even aware at all of how schools get their funding. Now they may know good and damn well they won't be expelled but not because they understand the system. However that's an entirely different problem than what you mentioned previously.

The students know that after 9 times being expelled, that they will not be expelled again, because that is the limit and after 10 times it is permanent, and the school will lose federal funding for that student. The administration will not go further and expell this student to preserve federal funding for the student. They don't care about funding, you're right, but they know that they can't be permanetly expelled. You brought it up.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You can claim that, I call bullshit. I doubt most kids don't think the first expulsion is permanent. Hell since when precisely isn't it?

While no I didn't bring it up that's fine to bring up.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We are the brain drain for the world. If you are smart and hard working, you will have a successful life. Our El-Hi education system is flawed because of government intervention. Our post grad university education is the best in the world.

That's a total load of shit.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Only 30% of youth qualify for a job that totals 1% of the population. Sounds like a non-issue to me. The military isn't even hurting that bad for bodies. We should be a lot more concerned about how many kids can't get into college and force us to import kids from nations where the education system doesn't suck.

Do you honestly believe more people should be enrolled in college? I believe there are too many. Many of them take useless courses, graduate, and expect to parlay their degrees in Black Studies or Liberal Arts or History of Art or Basket Weaving or other crap into high paying jobs and the adulation of their peers. You might be right about students who study math and science and computer programming or medicine or other useful subjects.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

A degree from University of Phoenix Online or Oral Roberts U. just doesn't hold much weight.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Do you honestly believe more people should be enrolled in college? I believe there are too many. Many of them take useless courses, graduate, and expect to parlay their degrees in Black Studies or Liberal Arts or History of Art or Basket Weaving or other crap into high paying jobs and the adulation of their peers. You might be right about students who study math and science and computer programming or medicine or other useful subjects.

That's kind of a trick question and I'll tell you why. If you can parley any of those into a high paying job you fucking earned it and other than possibly basket weaving those are all things that should exist.

However I was specifically mentioning things that force us to important students. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that anybody ever came here from Japan to take Black Studies. They eat up slots to become doctors and engineers and the like.

Now if I had my way I would make getting a High School Diploma sufficiently difficult that it wouldn't be something you're just expected to have. It would be something that you earn. When we're talking about low to "mid" tier jobs most of them (especially retail stuff) you could handle with a goddamn 9th grade education. And the only reason you can't get a job at places like Wal-Mart with a GED is because everybody has them not because you couldn't do it with less. But that's kind of a separate issue.

Ultimately the idea that there are too many people in college is a bad one. One could never have a society that has too many college educated people, even if a great many of them are educated in something "worthless" it's simply impossible to have too many educated people. What you are arguing and I don't disagree with is that our market is kinda skewed. But I honestly don't think too many college people is the problem so much as as we've reduced the amount of work in the world a lot of us have become increasingly redundant.

Blah blah blah automation, email, online shopping, cell phones, yadda yadda. But that is again a separate issue.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by KUJACK View Post

We are the brain drain for the world. If you are smart and hard working, you will have a successful life. Our El-Hi education system is flawed because of government intervention. Our post grad university education is the best in the world.

That's a total load of shit.

Actually, that's largely true. We may not be the brain drain for other advanced countries but we are for third-world nations. Professionals from those places want nothing more than to come to the US to advance their careers.

As for "government intervention" that's a strange thing to say because schools are parts of a government. I will agree if you mean school boards and other governments should stand back, for the most part, and let teachers do what they do best.

 

[neci]

maybe if the military worked with michelle obama, more kids could be service ready.

 

[Sean Renaud]

maybe if the military worked with michelle obama, more kids could be service ready.

Not that it's necessary for the reason listed above but there are far worse ideas in the world than that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Actually, that's largely true.

Not even close to reality.....in what world does hard work = getting paid? I LOL every time I hear some retard conservative utter that total pile of shit.

You make the big bucks by getting a bunch of people together and getting them to work hard for you......

If what you said was true the Jose and Juanita would be balling the fuck out now wouldn't they? But they are indeed not...neither are any of the ground level grunts working their tits off every day for jack shit pay just enough to keep them on food stamps.

Their boss's boss's boss? Makes 7 figures a year off their hard work while he goes to schmooze moar deals with all his money at the country/yacht club.

I repeat, hard work = you're doing it fucking wrong....

 

[Boxlicker101]

Not even close to reality.....in what world does hard work = getting paid? I LOL every time I hear some retard conservative utter that total pile of shit.

You make the big bucks by getting a bunch of people together and getting them to work hard for you......

If what you said was true the Jose and Juanita would be balling the fuck out now wouldn't they? But they are indeed not...neither are any of the ground level grunts working their tits off every day for jack shit pay just enough to keep them on food stamps.

Their boss's boss's boss? Makes 7 figures a year off their hard work while he goes to schmooze moar deals with all his money at the country/yacht club.

I repeat, hard work = you're doing it fucking wrong....

I still say if a person is capable and smart and willing to work hard, he or she will be successful, even sometimes earning a seven figure income. Of course, the work must be in the right field of endeavor. You are never going to get rich digging ditches or working on an assembly line but most people who are capable and smart don't do that kind of work, at least not any longer than they can help.

Like many of your kind, your thoughts seem to be stuck in the 19th Century.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I still say if a person is capable and smart and willing to work hard, he or she will be successful, even sometimes earning a seven figure income. Of course, the work must be in the right field of endeavor. You are never going to get rich digging ditches or working on an assembly line but most people who are capable and smart don't do that kind of work, at least not any longer than they can help.

Like many of your kind, your thoughts seem to be stuck in the 19th Century.

No, yours are stuck in the 19th century. In the real world there is a very real "luck" factor that works in. Yes there are people who are smart enough to overcome a lot of crap but usually there are limits.

 

[Boxlicker101]

No, yours are stuck in the 19th century. In the real world there is a very real "luck" factor that works in. Yes there are people who are smart enough to overcome a lot of crap but usually there are limits.

I will concede that being in the right place at the right time can be a factor in success but, unless we mean total dumb luck, such as winning the lottery, it takes more than luck.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I will concede that being in the right place at the right time can be a factor in success but, unless we mean total dumb luck, such as winning the lottery, it takes more than luck.

Yes it takes more than luck. If you aren't "prepared" when the luck comes your way it won't do you any good. But all things considered it's better to be lucky than good. A little luck can over come a lot of lack of talent, but ultimately no amount of talent will ever overcome a lack of luck.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I still say if a person is capable and smart and willing to work hard, he or she will be successful, even sometimes earning a seven figure income.

Until the toilet scrubbers, fruit pickers and construction workers are balling the fuck out I still say you're full of shit.

Of course, the work must be in the right field of endeavor. You are never going to get rich digging ditches or working on an assembly line but most people who are capable and smart don't do that kind of work, at least not any longer than they can help.

Ohhhhhhh of course here come the stipulations. I thought all you need is hard work and a good head on your shoulders!!

LMFAO I know a lot of intelligent hard working folks that are barely scraping by....I also know a lot of fucking morons who got the hook up and spend 180k a year on rent.

Your conservitard theory that hard work = success is bullshit.

Like many of your kind, your thoughts seem to be stuck in the 19th Century.

LOL whut? Says the guy spouting a 19th century conservitard catch phrase used to fool people into pullnig up to that assy. line thinking they were doing something other than making someone else rich as fuck.

I will concede that being in the right place at the right time can be a factor in success but, unless we mean total dumb luck, such as winning the lottery, it takes more than luck.

More often than not....it really doesn't.