New Witness to Michael Brown Shooting

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If Brown had his hands up, why was he shot 4 times in the arm? A killer would aim for center body mass.

He was doing damn good to hit him in the arm 3 times. The average rate for police getting on target is around 30% when the person isn't shooting back.

 

[Que]

CNN is reporting that a source tells them that Officer Darren Wilson did not have a broken eye socket after his altercation with Michael Brown. Don Lemon reports that Wilson did go to the hospital with a swollen face, but x-rays came back negative on a broken or torn eye socket.

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/cnn-report...altercation-with-michael-brown/#ixzz3B4exFAP1

Cop should have either let himself be assaulted again or at LEAST wait for the X-rays before shooting his assailant.

 

[about_average]

Oopsies!

CNN: NO ORBITAL BLOWOUT, NO EYE INJURY FOR OFFICER WILSON

Read it and weep, wingnuts: No break, no tear....NOTHING

Well, it better turn out that Brown actually was charging him, or he's probably fucked.

 

[Que]

Well, it better turn out that Brown actually was charging him, or he's probably fucked.

Oh, the standard is you have to have actual broken bones from an assault to reasonably fear for your life?

Kinda like Zimmerman? Shoulda let him crack his head against the sidewalk a coupla more times to get the concussion before shooting?

 

[toubab]

I just watched Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, no friend of the police, and she was pointing out the differences between the way the Ferguson Police Department has handled the Brown shooting and the way the North St. Louis Police Department has handled the Powell shooting. NSLPD Chief Dotson has put everything out on their case as soon as possible. Giving a full account of the shooting from the officers' standpoint within 90 minutes of the shooting. Putting out an unedited video of the entire incident, obtained from a witness, as soon as possible. Putting out copies of the full police report, as soon as possible. Answering every question she or MSNBC has asked, fully and completely. And promptly. And she pointed out there have been no problems in the black community of North St. Louis, or with anyone else, unlike the situation in Ferguson. Apparently NSLPD took notice of the way the police in Ferguson handled their shooting, and decided not to make the same mistakes in handling theirs. Good thinking.

 

[Sean]

I just watched Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, no friend of the police, and she was pointing out the differences between the way the Ferguson Police Department has handled the Brown shooting and the way the North St. Louis Police Department has handled the Powell shooting. NSLPD Chief Dotson has put everything out on their case as soon as possible. Giving a full account of the shooting from the officers' standpoint within 90 minutes of the shooting. Putting out an unedited video of the entire incident, obtained from a witness, as soon as possible. Putting out copies of the full police report, as soon as possible. Answering every question she or MSNBC has asked, fully and completely. And promptly. And she pointed out there have been no problems in the black community of North St. Louis, or with anyone else, unlike the situation in Ferguson. Apparently NSLPD took notice of the way the police in Ferguson handled their shooting, and decided not to make the same mistakes in handling theirs. Good thinking.

I grew up a poor black child. Joke, I know, but I grew up in Moss Side in Manchester. Overwhelmingly Afro-Carribean demographic. The only white people were irish or Polish. And YOU DID NOT TRUST THE POLICE. For good reason. The met finally admitted in the Lawrence report to "institutional racism" in the police force. Maybe it's time the US faced up to the same thing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I just watched Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, no friend of the police, and she was pointing out the differences between the way the Ferguson Police Department has handled the Brown shooting and the way the North St. Louis Police Department has handled the Powell shooting. NSLPD Chief Dotson has put everything out on their case as soon as possible. Giving a full account of the shooting from the officers' standpoint within 90 minutes of the shooting. Putting out an unedited video of the entire incident, obtained from a witness, as soon as possible. Putting out copies of the full police report, as soon as possible. Answering every question she or MSNBC has asked, fully and completely. And promptly. And she pointed out there have been no problems in the black community of North St. Louis, or with anyone else, unlike the situation in Ferguson. Apparently NSLPD took notice of the way the police in Ferguson handled their shooting, and decided not to make the same mistakes in handling theirs. Good thinking.

I saw a writeup on that earlier. The difference between the two departments insofar as community relations go could not be more pronounced.

Despite the endless excuse making from the usual suspects here, it seems Ferguson PD was bound and determined to antagonize their citizens as much as possible. They are the antithesis of a professional police department.

 

[toubab]

I grew up a poor black child. Joke, I know, but I grew up in Moss Side in Manchester. Overwhelmingly Afro-Carribean demographic. The only white people were irish or Polish. And YOU DID NOT TRUST THE POLICE. For good reason. The met finally admitted in the Lawrence report to "institutional racism" in the police force. Maybe it's time the US faced up to the same thing.

If Ferguson and North St. Louis are good examples, that may not apply across the board. At least not equally. Obviously the police in Ferguson have a lot to learn about a lot of things. At least a lot more than the police in North St. Louis, it appears.

 

[toubab]

I saw a writeup on that earlier. The difference between the two departments insofar as community relations go could not be more pronounced.

Despite the endless excuse making from the usual suspects here, it seems Ferguson PD was bound and determined to antagonize their citizens as much as possible. They are the antithesis of a professional police department.

The proof seems to be in the pudding, doesn't it?

 

[Sean]

If Ferguson and North St. Louis are good examples, that may not apply across the board. At least not equally. Obviously the police in Ferguson have a lot to learn about a lot of things. At least a lot more than the police in North St. Louis, it appears.

Thing is, if you grow up thinking the police are the enemy, that's a hard thing to dispel. I'm a white, now arguably middle class, male in a tech job. I'm supposed to trust the police, but I don't. I never will. Imagine how it is for a black bloke working his arse off and getting stopped just because of the colour of his skin?

 

[toubab]

Thing is, if you grow up thinking the police are the enemy, that's a hard thing to dispel. I'm a white, now arguably middle class, male in a tech job. I'm supposed to trust the police, but I don't. I never will. Imagine how it is for a black bloke working his arse off and getting stopped just because of the colour of his skin?

When I was small, I was the only white kid in my entire neighborhood. I don't remember anyone ever saying anything about the police, one way or the other.

I trust the police about as much as I trust non-police. Which is not a great deal.

 

[Disgustipated]

Why is the OP so interested in this topic?

 

[Sean]

When I was small, I was the only white kid in my entire neighborhood. I don't remember anyone ever saying anything about the police, one way or the other.

I trust the police about as much as I trust non-police. Which is not a great deal.

But non police don't get to make your life a misery. I'm going on purely UK experience here, our cops don't tend to shoot people, but poor people, and especially ethnic minorities, get treated like shit by the police. I'm the same bloke whether I'm wearing a suit or my scruffs, and what I'm doing that day dictates the uniform. If I'm in a suit and tie, they're polite. If I've been crawling under floorboards all day laying cable, they treat me like scum. If my skin was black, and I was dirty? It's hard to explain to people that haven't experienced it. But it explains the riots in Ferguson.

 

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[toubab]

Why is the OP so interested in this topic?

Probably for much the same reasons most people in the country seem interested in it, judging by how it's dominating the news day after day, and night after night. But maybe I take even more interest in it than most, because it's taking twists and turns I didn't anticipate. It's unique, in my experience. I can't understand why the Ferguson PD have mishandled this the way they have, if this was a justified shooting.

 

[Disgustipated]

Why do you care?

It's a discussion board, dummy.

 

[Sean]

Probably for much the same reasons most people in the country seem interested in it, judging by how it's dominating the news day after day, and night after night. But maybe I take even more interest in it than most, because it's taking twists and turns I didn't anticipate. It's unique, in my experience. I can't understand why the Ferguson PD have mishandled this the way they have, if this was a justified shooting.

You don't understand. Vettebigot has been told by Fox that the niggers are getting uppity.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Why is the OP so interested in this topic?

He is obviously a concerned citizen.
:nods:

 

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[Sean]

You have nothing to contribute.

And you hate non whites. Your history shows it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You have nothing to contribute.

Gosh, if you feel that strongly about him, why don't you put him on ignore?

 

[unregistered]

 

[Disgustipated]

You have nothing to contribute.

Like your endless copy and paste bullshit?

Gosh, if you feel that strongly about him, why don't you put him on ignore?

He'll never do that.

He's mine.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Like your endless copy and paste bullshit?



He'll never do that.

He's mine.

That last bit made my eyes hurt

 

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