New Witness to Michael Brown Shooting

[RobDownSouth]

It's time for AJ and Miles to act civilized.
:nods:

 

[Ishmael]

Do you get it yet?

Pretty much. How many times has this movie been redone?

Ishmael

 

[Busybody]

what will the toxicology tests show that was in the


HULKING THUG?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Six shots, says coroner.

The last one was a textbook headshot, it killed him immediately.
No gunpowder residue found on the body.

 

[Busybody]

1 hulking thug down

many more to go

 

[Busybody]

Possibly the most sickening thing about America is its racial selectivity. White person kills white person. Zzzzz. Black person kills black person. Zzzzz. Black person kills white person. Zzzzz. White person kills black person — the world stops. Or explodes.

(And if the person doing the shooting is not quite white, à la George Zimmerman, you can add a little bleach, dubbing him a “white Hispanic.”)

It’s not just that some life is held to be more valuable than other life. It’s that the value of life is measured by the color of the person who takes it. Which is a little weird, at a minimum.

Michael Brown’s life or Trayvon Martin’s life would be just as valuable if a person of a different color had done the shooting. But we would not know the victims’ names, of course. (It was proposed that an asteroid be named after Trayvon Martin. I don’t know whether the proposal was carried out.)

I realize that Al Sharpton, Rand Paul, and the rest of America can’t react to the fall of every sparrow. And I know full well about the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. But maybe we could mix it up a little, for variety’s sake?

 

[Busybody]

so the new witness LIED!

should be charged with a crime as it led to riots

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The video of the perp is racist.

I agree.

It should never have been shown in the name of justice.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Pretty much. How many times has this movie been redone?

Ishmael

Any time they can find a remake angle...



... all the actors already know their lines and are eager to perform a matinee.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

what will the toxicology tests show that was in the


HULKING THUG?

The good news is that the proper authorities, Eric Holder, are going to perform an official autopsy exam, one with clean blood samples and at least two rounds in the back, because they have a credible witness who is more believable and truer to the story than mere biased white facts can possibly be...



Calling Dr. Ben Carson, calling Dr. Ben Carson...

 

[toubab]

Those were credible, believable witnesses backed up by touab's vast investigatory experience so the ME must be white, must be a racist and MUST BE LYING!

So do you now believe the witnesses who said the cop shot at Brown while Brown was running away from him were lying?

 

[toubab]

SEE!

CREDIBLE!!!

This is the stuff of conviction!

Surely you don't think the autopsy report negates the eyewitness reports.

 

[Ishmael]

So do you now believe the witnesses who said the cop shot at Brown while Brown was running away from him were lying?

We just don't know, do we. But the autopsy shows that all wounds occurred while Brown was facing the officer.

Ishmael

 

[toubab]

Do you get it yet?

THE TEMPLATE!

The press, the race warlords, the administration, THE WITNESSES!

The story was already written in their heads. They've been writing it for years. The story was the gospel truth and everything they see and hear fits the story or they reject it out of hand and stick with the story, not unlike our beautiful people on the Left who post here.

The cop is guilty no matter what. The witnesses truly BELIEVE they saw him being shot in the back because they have been manipulated for years by constant unrelenting propaganda from the people who claim to be taking care of them (because they can't take care of themselves, the OPPRESSION MEME).
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Has it even occurred to you the witnesses thought Brown was shot in the back because the cop was shooting at him as Brown was running away from him?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So do you now believe the witnesses who said the cop shot at Brown while Brown was running away from him were lying?

Surely you don't think the autopsy report negates the eyewitness reports.

What did I tell you days ago?

What did I tell you today?

Witnesses are inherently unreliable during stressful incidents.

We had many people repeating that he was running away.

Some said he was kneeling.

Nobody cared what the cops had to say...

 

[toubab]

We just don't know, do we. But the autopsy shows that all wounds occurred while Brown was facing the officer.

Ishmael

No, we don't know. And I won't be surprised if another autopsy comes up slightly different on the arm wounds.

 

[toubab]

What did I tell you days ago?

What did I tell you today?

Witnesses are inherently unreliable during stressful incidents.

We had many people repeating that he was running away.

Some said he was kneeling.

Nobody cared what the cops had to say...

Nobody knows what the cop had to say. That's part of the problem.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Has it even occurred to you the witnesses thought Brown was shot in the back because the cop was shooting at him as Brown was running away from him?

As Brown was charging him...

But, you are at least realizing what I am saying, witnesses recollections are often based on things other than a step by step factual accounting of what they saw. The brain tries to help you make sense of what you just saw and in this attempt it often errs in interpreting the data coming from the eyes, ears and other senses.

See, the family representative is speaking now and they're using inflammatory language like execution.

It is a story that they have repeated to themselves so often, that it intrudes upon reality.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nobody knows what the cop had to say. That's part of the problem.

No, the problem is that the press went out and found everything they could, including your credible witness to advance the story and convict the cop with the threat of violence, a violence that they were eager and enthusiastic in setting in motion...

... they don't want justice for the cop or the Ute, they want the proper, and only. end to the story: Cop in jail, outrage justified, and in vindication of their reporting, they then begin casting about for the next similar story to repeat the cycle and bolster their political power and ability to shape the dialog of the "victim" groups and their champions.

 

[toubab]

As Brown was charging him...

But, you are at least realizing what I am saying, witnesses recollections are often based on things other than a step by step factual accounting of what they saw. The brain tries to help you make sense of what you just saw and in this attempt it often errs in interpreting the data coming from the eyes, ears and other senses.

See, the family representative is speaking now and they're using inflammatory language like execution.

It is a story that they have repeated to themselves so often, that it intrudes upon reality.

I am well aware of the fact witnesses are often wrong. That's why I said I found Tiffany Mitchell credible. If you get a statement from five witnesses to the same traumatic event, you will often get five different versions of what happened. Perhaps only slightly different, but sometimes vastly different.

This autopsy report is not that helpful in figuring out the crucial aspects of this case.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Interesting article here about social media's role in the Ferguson murder.

The VRWC was spoon-feeding their daily dose of hatred to wingnut nation, equal parts outrage over Ebola and Those Poor Jews, but all the bitter clingers wanted to bitch about was that Uppity Negro in Ferguson. The tail wagged the dog here.

 

[Balladeer08]

I'm no fan of police because I have had my share of bad encounters with some folks who had no business wearing a badge. Having said that they are due the same consideration and vice versa. If you ask me a lot of these shootings wouldn't happen if the police patrolled 2 in a car like the old days. Classic errors in Judgment.

When I was in San Francisco more than a decade ago, I noticed the police on foot patrol did it in groups of three. One to deal with whoever, one to watch the crowd to the front, one to the rear.

A lone officer can't watch everyone.

Plus he never has a numerical advantage. I've seen people who were ready to fight a "lone" cop drop their hands and surrender when they find out there are more cops standing behind them. It's the old Ron White routine: "I don't know how many of them it would take to whup my ass. But I knew how many they were planning to use. And that's good information."

 

[Busybody]

Has it even occurred to you the witnesses thought Brown was shot in the back because the cop was shooting at him as Brown was running away from him?

Brown couldn't have been running away from the COP and been shot in the back

UNLESS HE WAS RUNNING BACKWARDS

I actually thought you had sense and were reasonable

I was wrong

 

[Busybody]

I am well aware of the fact witnesses are often wrong. That's why I said I found Tiffany Mitchell credible. If you get a statement from five witnesses to the same traumatic event, you will often get five different versions of what happened. Perhaps only slightly different, but sometimes vastly different.

This autopsy report is not that helpful in figuring out the crucial aspects of this case.

to you


and you are aware of the transcript of the phone call?

where they say the HULKING THUG was BUM RUSHING the COP?

or

are you pretending ypu missed that one

 

[toubab]

No, the problem is that the press went out and found everything they could, including your credible witness to advance the story and convict the cop with the threat of violence, a violence that they were eager and enthusiastic in setting in motion...

... they don't want justice for the cop or the Ute, they want the proper, and only. end to the story: Cop in jail, outrage justified, and in vindication of their reporting, they then begin casting about for the next similar story to repeat the cycle and bolster their political power and ability to shape the dialog of the "victim" groups and their champions.

I agree most in the press want the cop to be guilty of murder. I'm just trying to figure out what actually happened, if possible.