GOP’s 30-year spin job is over: Why we are not a center-right nation

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Monday, Jul 28, 2014 07:45 AM EDT

GOP’s 30-year spin job is over: Why we are not a center-right nation

From minimum wage to the environment to abortion, America is far more liberal than the media or the right admit

Joshua Sager


It is a persistent belief among many in the political and media establishments, fed by decades of right-wing propaganda, that the United States is a “center-right nation” that finds progressives to be far too liberal for mainstream positions of power.

If you look purely at electoral outcomes, those who assert this appear to have a fairly strong point. The last several decades of federal politics have been dominated by center-right policies and truly left-wing politicians have been largely marginalized (e.g., Bernie Sanders). Even Clinton and Obama — the last two Democratic presidents who, theoretically, should be leftists — are corporate-friendly moderates who have triangulated during negotiations with Republicans to pass center-right policy compromises (e.g., Obama’s Heritage Foundation-inspired ACA or the Clinton Defense of Marriage Act compromise).

While electoral results may support the idea of a center-right nation, looking beyond electoral politics — which involve a mixture of policy choices, party politics, fundraising and propaganda — and focusing purely upon raw policy preferences leaves us with an entirely different picture.

Here is a compilation of polling data from various reputable American polling organizations, describing the policy preferences of the Americans people over the last year.

Economic Issues

According to Gallup polling, 59 percent of Americans think that U.S. wealth “should be more evenly distributed” among a larger percentage of the people while only 33 percent thought that the current “distribution is fair.” While this is down from the 2008 modern high point, where 68 percent of Americans supported more redistribution, the public opinion of redistribution has held a stable majority, if not super-majority, for decades.

The fact that such a large number of Americans believes that the distribution of wealth is currently too skewed toward the wealthy is made far more relevant by the fact that they don’t actually know just how skewed the wealth distribution has become. As explained by Michael Norton of the Harvard Business School, Americans think that the current distribution of wealth is far more equal (middle bar graph) than it actually is (top bar graph) — in short, they recognize the problem, but lack an understanding as to just how bad it has become.

According to Pew Research, 69 percent of Americans oppose any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, even in order to cut the deficit, while only 23 percent support such cuts. Additionally, 59 percent oppose cuts on programs assisting the poor in order to address the deficit, while only 33 percent support such austerity.

A multitude of polls have indicated that between 60 percent and 80 percent of Americans support increasing taxes on the wealthy, depending upon how the question is worded and the polling venue — this indicates that a majority of Americans support increasing taxes on top-earners in order to reduce the deficit.

According to Quinnipiac Polling, 71 percent of Americans support increasing the minimum wage to at least $10.10 an hour, while only 27 percent oppose increasing the minimum wage.

According to Gallup Polling, 54 percent of Americans support labor unions, while only 39 percent disapprove of unions.

According to Gallup Polling, 37 percent of Americans think that we spend too much on defense, while only 28 percent think that we spend too little.

During the fight over letting jobless benefits expire, Quinnipiac Polling found that 58 percent of Americans supported extending benefits by at least three months, while only 37 percent of Americans supported letting benefits expire.

Cultural Issues

According to Washington Post/ABC polling, 59 percent of Americans support gay marriage, while only 34 percent oppose marriage equality.

According to Pew Research, 54 percent of Americans support keeping abortion “legal in all/most cases,” while only 40 percent support making abortion “illegal in all/most cases.” While informative of public opinion, this poll is moot, as abortion is a constitutionally protected right, and there is no way for even a majority of antiabortion voters (that hasn’t existed for decades) to legally make abortion illegal in most cases.

According to ABC/Washington Post polling, 51 percent of Americans disagree with the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, while only 33 percent support the decision. This decision was a direct result of the Alabama GOP’s attempts to circumvent the Voting Rights Act preclearance provision, and was engineered to allow right-wing legislatures to pass voter disenfranchisement laws.

According to polling by the Feldman Group, 62 percent of Americans support the Paycheck Fairness Act — which seeks to close the gender-based wage gap — while only 29 percent of Americans oppose the act.

According to Gallup Polling, 58 percent of Americans support legalizing marijuana, while only 39 percent support continued criminalization.

Even Fox News Polls indicate that 68 percent of Americans support a pathway to citizenship, while only 15 percent support deportation — of the remaining 17 percent of those polled, 13 percent support expanding guest worker programs while 4 percent didn’t know what they wanted.

According to Pew Research, 81 percent of Americans support universal background checks for all gun purchases, while only 17 percent oppose them. A University of California, Davis, poll concluded that even 55.4 percent of gun sellers supported universal background checks and disqualifying offenses for gun purchase, while only 37.5 percent opposed background checks.

Environmental Issues

According to USA Today/Stanford University polling, 73 percent of Americans believe in climate change and 52 percent of Americans say that it will be a “very serious” problem if we don’t implement policies to reduce it (as opposed to 10 percent who say that climate change will be “not serious at all”).

According to polling by Perception Insight/Greenberg Quinlan, 66 percent of Americans support stronger EPA air regulations, 72 percent support stronger carbon-emission regulations, and 60 percent support stronger regulations on motor vehicle emissions.

Center-Left America

According to these policy polls, an “average American” supports the redistribution of wealth through taxing the wealthy more, wants to increase the minimum wage and environmental protections, thinks that unions are beneficial to society, and opposes attempts to cut anti-poverty programs or entitlements, even if those cuts are intended to balance the budget. On social issues, this theoretical American supports gay equality, reasonable abortion access, universal background checks for gun purchases, wage equality for women and the legalization of marijuana.

In short, this “average American” holds views that line up almost exactly with a center-left political ticket, similar to what many European social democratic parties have run on. It is certainly true that this description of the average doesn’t take into account regional variations (e.g., the South likely holds many extremely conservative Americans whose preferences are simply canceled out in these national poll by the more populous coastal cities), but this is an accurate description of the aggregate opinion of the entire population of the United States.

While Americans tend to align with the left or center-left in terms of policy, a disproportionate number still vote for Republicans or self-identify as conservatives. These people are voting based upon their perception of the parties (e.g., voters can grow up “conservative” or “liberal” and will reflexively vote for a person who identifies as part of that “tribe” over others) or other non-policy criteria. They are using heuristics and socialized cues (e.g., religion) to decide whom to vote for, rather than an objective assessment of which candidate better supports their policies.

This phenomenon was summarized succinctly in a recent working paper by Broockman from U.C. Davis and Skovron from the University of Michigan:

Politicians consistently and substantially overestimate support for conservative positions among their constituents on these issues. The differences we discover in this regard are exceptionally large among conservative politicians: across both issues we examine, conservative politicians appear to overestimate support for conservative policy views among their constituents by over 20 percentage points on average. In fact, on each of the issues we examine, over 90% of politicians with conservative views appear to overestimate their constituents’ support for conservative policies. This misperception is so large that nearly half of sitting conservative officeholders appear to believe that they represent a district that is more conservative on these issues than the most conservative legislative district in the entire country despite the fact that over half of these officeholders actually support positions more conservative than their own districts’ median voter.

The tendency of the American public to vote based upon party or cultural identification rather than objective policy preferences creates a situation where almost half of our political representation in the federal government supports policies that are supported by only a tiny minority of the total population; this is what has led Congress to have a 13 percent approval rating, up slightly from when it cratered to 9 percent in late 2013.

If the American people want to actually implement their policy preferences, they need to stop voting based upon cultural or party identifiers and start voting based purely upon policy. Democrats need to vote for progressive politicians while Republicans need to vote for conservatives who do not live so far out on the fringe that they fall off the edge of sanity.
 
Naaaah.

Libertarian is our default setting. Its the default setting for every society I know of. When the government checks aren't in the mail people barter pussy for beans and bullets and beer.
 
I remember reading about a study that was done where Americans were polled on the standards of living that they believed we had, versus the standards of living that we actually had. The options they had to choose from were reasonably in-depth, describing tax rates, access to social programs, and access to healthcare and education. Each option was based on the real-world indices of a different country. When the study was concluded, the results were examined to see where we believed we ranked in the world for quality-of-life.

We thought we were Sweden.
 
The further you travel from the epicenter of any large metropolitan area, the further right you go.
 
Naaaah.

Libertarian is our default setting. Its the default setting for every society I know of. When the government checks aren't in the mail people barter pussy for beans and bullets and beer.

Who knew the Senior Center was such a hub of commerce.
 
I keep ending up ditched in the Mississippi...


:mad:

What a dance do they do
Lordy how I'm telling you
They don't need no band
They keep time by clapping their hands
Just as happy as a cow chewing on a cud
When the people beat their feet
When the people beat their feet
When the people beat their feet
On the Mississippi mud
 
Where's the confounded bridge...

;)

No, they made it way too tall and it sets off my vertigo when I am driving over high-flying birds.
 
The further you travel from the epicenter of any large metropolitan area, the further right you go.

Unless you're going up the west coast...then the law is inverse, the further you travel north up the coast from SF the further hippie you go....yes I'm talking about the sticks.
 
Benie Sanders is the only elected Communist, passing as an Independent, in the nation.

Every social and moral issue mentioned is an issue involving human morals and ethics that properly belong in the extreme, fringe areas of human behavior and can be described as anti human and anti life in terms of basic natural values most everyone holds.

The economic issues, such as minimum wage, are the elite left intellectual socialists, all wanting more government control and management, trying to fool the general populace with, 'populist', I. e. socialist, rhetoric on 30's cafe' socialist ideas such as organized crime, (labor unions) which have been declining in numbers for decades.

It is the bottom rung of political and economic illiterates that the elites of the democrats address, blacks, Hispanics, poor whites, and, unfortunately, gullible women who a dependent on government handouts, that give the socialists a small chance.\

Without the free loading blood suckers the democrats are a dead party.

an thas a fack, jack!

amicus
 
Unless you're going up the west coast...then the law is inverse, the further you travel north up the coast from SF the further hippie you go....yes I'm talking about the sticks.

I was hoping no one would bring up the Berkshires. There are exceptions to every rule. But on average, it averages out.
 
I remember reading about a study that was done where Americans were polled on the standards of living that they believed we had, versus the standards of living that we actually had. The options they had to choose from were reasonably in-depth, describing tax rates, access to social programs, and access to healthcare and education. Each option was based on the real-world indices of a different country. When the study was concluded, the results were examined to see where we believed we ranked in the world for quality-of-life.

We thought we were Sweden.

When was that done, tho? Young people are much jaded much earlier now that we have the internet and make friends with people who have governments that just give shit away. Because now we KNOW we're not that great and the old people call us the 'entitlement' generation because they had to FIGHT for shit in the 60s, goddamn it, and we just sit on our computers and bitch. Not just on this site but irl too. They think we're lazy and "entitled" because we went, "Hey why does the rest of world have better healthcare?" "Hey why do other countries treat addictive personality disorder like a disease instead of a crime?" "Hey why aren't guys getting lynched for liking cock in other places?" "Why do women get PAID leave to give birth in other places instead of getting completely cut off and having to put kids as young as 3 weeks old into daycare at their expense?" "Seriously. Guys. What's up with all this shit?"
 
Benie Sanders is the only elected Communist, passing as an Independent, in the nation.

Every social and moral issue mentioned is an issue involving human morals and ethics that properly belong in the extreme, fringe areas of human behavior and can be described as anti human and anti life in terms of basic natural values most everyone holds.

The economic issues, such as minimum wage, are the elite left intellectual socialists, all wanting more government control and management, trying to fool the general populace with, 'populist', I. e. socialist, rhetoric on 30's cafe' socialist ideas such as organized crime, (labor unions) which have been declining in numbers for decades.

It is the bottom rung of political and economic illiterates that the elites of the democrats address, blacks, Hispanics, poor whites, and, unfortunately, gullible women who a dependent on government handouts, that give the socialists a small chance.\

Without the free loading blood suckers the democrats are a dead party.

an thas a fack, jack!

amicus

You do realize that not one word of that contradicts anything in the article, don't you?
 
I think it's a function of how many of the free loaders actually vote?

Not many, if we're talking about people on welfare or food stamps.

If we're talking about corporate welfare, which accounts for a lot more bloodsucking freeloading on the Treasury than do food stamps, then it's not a question of how many of the 1% vote -- most all of them, I expect, but they're still only 1%; what matters is that they affect elections far out of proportion to their numbers, through campaign donations.
 
When was that done, tho? Young people are much jaded much earlier now that we have the internet and make friends with people who have governments that just give shit away. Because now we KNOW we're not that great

It's shifting but American exceptionalism is still really prevalent....the fact that the only thing we are actually number 1 at is war and prison is still sinking in and the thought to get away from the 55-80y/o generations legacy is becoming more prevalent. Esp as the old "I love freedom and liberty n' free markets, that's what paying me to build more prisons and lock up my economic competition because GAWD commands that much freedom!!!!! is, that's the free market!!!" types like vetteman die off it will continue to happen at a fast pace. Like watching Christianity, die it's great but unfortunately none of us will likely see what our society is like after the majority of people decide to accept the Earth is no longer flat and the center of the universe.
 
It's shifting but American exceptionalism is still really prevalent....the fact that the only thing we are actually number 1 at is war and prison is still sinking in and the thought to get away from the 55-80y/o generations legacy is becoming more prevalent. Esp as the old "I love freedom and liberty n' free markets, that's what paying me to build more prisons and lock up my economic competition because GAWD commands that much freedom!!!!! is, that's the free market!!!" types like vetteman die off it will continue to happen at a fast pace. Like watching Christianity, die it's great but unfortunately none of us will likely see what our society is like after the majority of people decide to accept the Earth is no longer flat and the center of the universe.

I dunno man, I live in the boonies and even here people are like, "Hey you know in in Europe they have a living wage and a 35 hour work week? What's that shit about?" I mean, they're very much, "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!" But nobody under 45 doesn't have an improvement suggestion. Because real people don't have political affiliations, they have kids that they need to take care of and long term diseases that they need to cope with and crippling poverty; and they don't have time to rank the country. Real people got their own fucking problems.
 
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