The anti-Christian Morality of Ethics

[RobDownSouth]

24/7, he's always here.

Ishmael

And once the cancer has finished munchin' on that spongy grey matter inside your skull, you won't be!

Isn't it great how things work out in life?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Magic H8 Ball™ sez:
Sputter! Sputter!
#Derp!Derp!
::nods::

 

[RobDownSouth]

Magic H8 Ball™ sez:
Sputter! Sputter!
Rob is being mean to me!
I H8 Obama
#Derp!Derp!
::nods::

#VictimAgain

 

[Phelia]

AJ gets his talkin' points from c-and-p articles from American Thinker and NRO.

Until recently, Vetty countered with the overheated rhetoric from Breitbart, but I guess there wasn't enough spittle-flecked oratory there, because lately he had "dumbed down" his cut-n-paste using some site called "truthrevolt".

Yes, there are the few who see this place as a dump for their RSS subscriptions. If I wanted to read the American "Thinker" or Salon every day, I'd fucking do it. Of course, I'd never actually visit the American Thinker website because I'm afraid that having that in my browser history would taint the algorithm for my gmail ads by categorizing me as an "idiot." Still, it seems like he must put a bit of effort into surfacing the worst of the worst. What utter garbage he finds. I like reading opposing viewpoints if there's value, intellectual integrity, or rhetorical creativity. This is just dross. Not even worth discussing.

Jesus motherfuckingChrist does Throb ever go to work?

... and he bags on everyone else?

I had extra bandwidth and decided to use it rather than loose it since it does not rollover and tomorrow is a new day.



And the fucker is STILL HERE!

I remember in another thread maybe two weeks ago you were tickling your own balls and commenting on the trivialness discussed by the posters who are not so intellectual and noble as you and the others who come here to shout at walls and discuss "politics" from 4am through most of the day.

How many of your posts are about how much you dislike Rob? I'd reckon about 30%. Hard-hitting dissection of the real issues, there, bud. Did you respond to sigh's skewering of your incorrect ascription of her viewpoints yet?

No? Oh.

And once the cancer has finished munchin' on that spongy grey matter inside your skull, you won't be!

Isn't it great how things work out in life?

Hey now.

 

[Ishmael]

Hey now.

No "Hey now" about it. This is who you've chosen to associate with.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Phelia...



I have yet to see you go into one of KingO's recent Salon and Huffington dump zones and express the same sentiments...



Bias much? No addressing the topic, just no failure to launch.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No "Hey now" about it. This is who you've chosen to associate with.

Ishmael

I've been saying it for the longest time now, he voices what they actually think!


__________________

I bitched about Bush for six years, and through all that time the Republicans on this board never trashed me the way the Democrats do now that "their guy" is "in charge."

They were angry when Bush was President, but they seem even more angry now that Obama is President.

Maybe it's just disappointment.

Maybe, it's who they really are and have been all along.
A_J, the Wiser

 

[Ishmael]

I've been saying it for the longest time now, he voices what they actually think!


__________________

As true as that may be, it counts for nothing until they actually 'see' it for themselves. Want to place a wager?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

As true as that may be, it counts for nothing until they actually 'see' it for themselves. Want to place a wager?

Ishmael

No.

Once over the Cuckoo's nest, over the rainbow.

If, like me, you do not figure it out by middle age, it's not going to happen.



Then, you work with the government to build Babbitt Houses and consider yourself an entrepreneur, not a crony.

 

[Phelia]

No "Hey now" about it. This is who you've chosen to associate with.

Ishmael

Yes, I reply to his posts on a message board! I'm a monster. Thanks for stepping in when amicus told me to choke on my own vomit.

Phelia...



I have yet to see you go into one of KingO's recent Salon and Huffington dump zones and express the same sentiments...



Bias much? No addressing the topic, just no failure to launch.

That's probably because you don't bother reading anything that falls outside of the ten millimeters of the universe that happen to align with your fucked up world view, because I most certainly have. Maybe you also missed that I'M the one who alluded to how annoying he is in this very fucking thread?? Cuz it JUST happened. Shall I draw you a diagram?

It would also explain why you failed to respond to the post where I very clearly addressed your non-topic.

Took you no time at all to hop right up on Rob's dick, though! You're very talented.

 

[Ishmael]

No.

Once over the Cuckoo's nest, over the rainbow.

If, like me, you do not figure it out by middle age, it's not going to happen.



Then, you work with the government to build Babbitt Houses and consider yourself an entrepreneur, not a crony.

Nothing like a "Self Made Man."

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Here I am...

I'm to the left of you, in the barrel, awaiting the bull.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...
That's probably because you don't bother reading anything that falls outside of the ten millimeters of the universe that happen to align with your fucked up world view, because I most certainly have. Maybe you also missed that I'M the one who alluded to how annoying he is in this very fucking thread?? Cuz it JUST happened. Shall I draw you a diagram?

It would also explain why you failed to respond to the post where I very clearly addressed your non-topic.

Took you no time at all to hop right up on Rob's dick, though! You're very talented.

You do not know me.

"I remember in another thread maybe two weeks ago you were tickling your own balls and commenting on the trivialness... "

Why in the hell would I read any further or comment any more on this hateful attitude?

Do you want to be on ignore with Throb?

I'm drunk enough to be in an obliging mood.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You do not know me.

"I remember in another thread maybe two weeks ago you were tickling your own balls and commenting on the trivialness... "

Why in the hell would I read any further or comment any more on this hateful attitude?

Do you want to be on ignore with Throb?

I'm drunk enough to be in an obliging mood.

Do it!

That'll teach her a lesson she won't soon forget!

Put that ungrateful skirt in her place!

The nerve of her, disagreeing with you!

-Rob "teh instigator" DownSouth

 

[badbabysitter]

How have political ethics have replaced Biblically based morality in the minds of educated young people?

Consider Alex. She is a 27-year-old woman in the process of earning a PsyD degree to become a psychologist. She mentioned she was having a difficult time finding appropriate men to date and was considering an online dating service. I suggested that if she goes that route she needs to be clear about what characteristics are unacceptable to her. She thought for a moment then said, “One thing I cannot tolerate is homophobia.”

Of all the advantages a worthy life partner could bring to this young woman, and of all the harm that an unworthy partner might inflict, the first thing she identified is a young man’s view regarding homosexuality.

I asked, “If you could date a rapist-murderer or a homophobe, you’d choose the rapist-murderer?” She laughed nervously. Feeling sorry for this daughter of a world gone mad, I said, “I’m serious, think about it. A woman is vulnerable to the men she dates. Do you really mean to find out about political sensibilities before criminal tendencies?” I asked if she believed the behaviors associated with homophobia were morally worse than sex crimes. She said, “Psychologists don’t make moral judgments!” She went on to explain that homophobia was as bad as any crime because it killed more people than murder by causing suicide, addictions, spread of HIV, and crimes against gay people.



this entire arguement is bunk

say I approached a Jesus freak and asked what characteristics were inapprpriate to date in men

" well, they can't be pro-abortion"

I would say " Oh, so you'd date a pedophile"

Of all the advantages a worthy life partner could bring to this young woman, and of all the harm that an unworthy partner might inflict, the first thing she identified is a young man’s view regarding abortion

I would, “If you could date a pedophile or a prochoicer, you’d choose the pedophile?” She laughed nervously ( probably thinking I was a totally fucking lunatic, which she would be right about). Feeling sorry for this daughter of AJ for having such a stupid parent, I said, “I’m serious, think about it. A woman is vulnerable to the men she dates. Do you really mean to find out about political sensibilities before criminal tendencies?” I asked if she believed the behaviors associated with prochoicers were morally worse than sex crimes. She said, “Jesus loves everyone, even pedophiles, just not prochoicers!” She went on to explain that being prochoice was as bad as any crime because it killed more people than murder by causing suicide, addictions, spread of HIV, and crimes against gay people and all the wars of the world combined

yeah... great fucking arguement..Mr Stupid Is As Stupid Does

 

[Phelia]

You do not know me.

"I remember in another thread maybe two weeks ago you were tickling your own balls and commenting on the trivialness... "

Why in the hell would I read any further or comment any more on this hateful attitude?

Do you want to be on ignore with Throb?

I'm drunk enough to be in an obliging mood.

Well, given your history, I certainly can't think of a single reason why you'd read something where someone points out your blatant hypocrisy. It runs completely counter to your MO, which is to swaddle yourself in the soft, agreeable stupidity of posters like miles and koalabear while you cover your ears and drown out the words of people who are clearly smarter than you are.

I think you should, though, because you need a healthy dose of reality.

If you are incapable of a reasoned, rational response to my pointing out inconsistencies in the things you say, you are absolutely welcome to throw a tantrum and put me on ignore. I am neither surprised nor the slightest bit inclined to stop you.

"Hateful," lol. Loooove how you can repeatedly take your jabs at people by insinuating that they're fat or unemployed and I'M the hateful one for saying you tickle your own balls. Now that's fucking funny.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Well, given your history, I certainly can't think of a single reason why you'd read something where someone points out your blatant hypocrisy. It runs completely counter to your MO, which is to swaddle yourself in the soft, agreeable stupidity of posters like miles and koalabear while you cover your ears and drown out the words of people who are clearly smarter than you are.

I think you should, though, because you need a healthy dose of reality.

If you are incapable of a reasoned, rational response to my pointing out inconsistencies in the things you say, you are absolutely welcome to throw a tantrum and put me on ignore. I am neither surprised nor the slightest bit inclined to stop you.

"Hateful," lol. Loooove how you can repeatedly take your jabs at people by insinuating that they're fat or unemployed and I'M the hateful one for saying you tickle your own balls. Now that's fucking funny.

What are my inconsistencies?

I missed that part. I mean I picked up on your claim, but I must ahve missed the proof part.

 

[badbabysitter]

What are my inconsistencies?

I missed that part. I mean I picked up on your claim, but I must ahve missed the proof part.

your entire Op is an example

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

your entire Op is an example

Phelia?

Dat U???

 

[badbabysitter]

Phelia?

Dat U???

good tactic...when people have doubt you're a dumbass.. remove all doubt

 

[Ishmael]

your entire Op is an example

Specify. Be on point. If you can't articulate then you're just noise.

Ishmael

 

[badbabysitter]

Specify. Be on point. If you can't articulate then you're just noise.

Ishmael

His entire Op is based on the premise that ethics are anti-moral and anti-christian

I went and changed a handful of words.. and demonstrably showed that it can be shown that it is equally valid to say Christian morals are antiethical

hence.. the entire OP is inconsistent

 

[Ishmael]

His entire Op is based on the premise that ethics are anti-moral and anti-christian

I went and changed a handful of words.. and demonstrably showed that it can be shown that it is equally valid to say Christian morals are antiethical

hence.. the entire OP is inconsistent

No, it isn't. The premise is that without an anchor all ethics/morals are malleable, subject to the whims and will of the individual. Make up your own as you go along.

Tell me, what is the atheist code of ethics? To what moral standard do they hold themselves? Or the Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists?

Which of those do you find more palatable than another? Or maybe they're all OK by you. Just where do you draw your line?

Ishmael

 

[badbabysitter]

No, it isn't. The premise is that without an anchor all ethics/morals are malleable, subject to the whims and will of the individual. Make up your own as you go along.

Tell me, what is the atheist code of ethics? To what moral standard do they hold themselves? Or the Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists?

Which of those do you find more palatable than another? Or maybe they're all OK by you. Just where do you draw your line?

Ishmael

But he's claiming that not having a Christian base for your ethics/morals is a horrible thing. That somehow Christian values will make you a better person

I can't tell you the atheist code of values, because everyone has thier own... but clearly the writer has decided whatever code they have is niferior to the Christian belief structure because the writer thinks the alleged atheist would date a rapist-murderer

as I clearly showed, one can ascribe the same lack of values to a Christian by claiming that their desire to date someone with theier own values would imply they would date a pedophile

both are equally false and inconsistent... because both imply total absolutism in all things

I would draw the line at homphopes, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, drug dealers anti-choicers, racists, arms dealers, terrorists, arsonists, child pornographers, polygamists, necrophiliacs,etcetera ...... getting the idea now?


this alleged " American Thinker" believes that since a person wouldnt date a homophobe.. they would date a rapist-murderer..so I can just easilysay a Jesus freak would date pedophile as long as they loved Jebus

and that is insulting to anyone with basic intelligence

 

[Phelia]

What are my inconsistencies?

I missed that part. I mean I picked up on your claim, but I must ahve missed the proof part.

Well, like I said, you don't seem to be all that good at reading. Or thinking. But, sure. As for the OP, I suppose I can't really call out inconsistencies in something you "said," because, as always, you're resting on someone else's words. However, because your posting of it can be interpeted as an endorsement, I guess I could point out, again, that championing "Biblically based morality" as the only way to weed out rapists and murderers is patently ridiculous given the barbarism littered throughout the old testament. God murdered more children than liberal women do, and you know how those leftie broads love their abortion pills.

Also, the fact that the entire premise is based on what is probably a fictitious conversation with a single person (who is also probably made up) would usually be an indicator to a rational human being that the point is specious at best and damagingly worthless, at worst.

Specifically, though, I was referencing this post of yours:

I cannot believe what the people who do not want to talk about politics do with their free time...



... okay, okay mea culpa, it's me again...

Insinuating that the silly barbs exchanged between internet strangers is a waste of time in comparison to the hard-hitting political discussions to which you are an all-to-willing party (given that your viewpoint isn't the slightest bit challenged or you're forced to think and actually defend your ridiculous ideas). But, most of what you say is some half-baked dig at Rob. So...

Perhaps you were responding to the alt-accusation, thing, though, which I will admit is often tedious and silly.

Phelia?

Dat U???

Oh, weird. Look at that.

Specify. Be on point. If you can't articulate then you're just noise.

Ishmael

Noticed you haven't had a chance to chat with amicus about his excessively aggressive language yet. Maybe you're occupied admonishing vetteman for the time he called me an "ignorant bitch"? Or are you just too busy insulting me and passing judgment for giving enough of a shit to say something when I saw Rob go too far?

You're all just victims of the evil, immoral left, aren't you?